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Love to See It with Emma and Claire

264 EpisodesProduced by Stitcher & Claire Fallon, Emma GrayWebsite

A weekly recap podcast about The Bachelor franchise and beyond, Love to See It is a snarky but affectionate dissection of dating reality shows — and what they say about all of us — hosted by Emma Gray and Claire Fallon. We laugh, we cry, we break down every episode in obsessive detail, and we unpack… read more

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Bachelor Data on Tracking Followers — and Crabs

September 17th, 2021


We talk to Suzana Somers, the numbers wizard behind the account that makes data just as entertaining as reality TV.

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‘Paradise’ S7 Week 5 with Justin Cole Adams

September 15th, 2021


Welcome back to another beautiful week in Paradise. There’s a posse out looking for justice, and after last week, there’s still one more crime that …

‘Paradise’ S7 Week 4 with Erin Darke and Daniel Radcliffe

September 8th, 2021


Welcome back to the beaches of Paradise, which are growing more hellish by the hour. From Brendan and Pieper to Chris and Alanna, this week’s two episodes were a nonstop trash fire. 

The beach is ablaze with drama, the …

An “Unusual but Sexy” Mailbag

September 3rd, 2021


Emma and Claire answer your questions about hypothetical Bachelor strategies, the importance (and difficulty) of friendship, and their favorite …

‘Paradise’ S7 Week 3 with Vella Lovell

September 1st, 2021


It’s week 3 of Bachelor in Paradise, and right on schedule, Bachelor in Paradise is turning into Bachelor in Hell.

There’s no show if there’s no …

‘Paradise’ S7 Week 2 with Jacqueline Trumbull

August 25th, 2021


Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about a bunch of people who already know each other who show up on a beach and pretend they’re strangers so that someone can make out with their boyfriend 15 feet away from them.

‘FBOY Island’ Episodes 7–10

August 20th, 2021


Welcome to our final recap of FBOY Island, in which we learn who is smart enough to take a mere $50k and a sterling reputation and who is an unredeemable FBOY.

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‘Paradise’ S7 Week 1 with Ali Barthwell

August 17th, 2021


Welcome to Paradise! We are vaxed and ready to watch some waxed people have a long-awaited hot Bach summer. 

From our couches, with air conditioning. And chilled rosé. 

Paradise 2021 kicked off Monday night, bringing …

‘FBOY Island’ Episodes 4–6 with Xandra Ellin

August 13th, 2021


Joining us to discuss episodes 4–6 of HBO Max’s reality hit is Xandra Ellin, who writes the truly great newsletter for On the Media.


‘Bachelorette’ S17 Finale with Brett Vergara

August 10th, 2021


Katie’s journey as Bachelorette has come to an end, in much the same fashion as Hemingway once said he went bankrupt: gradually and then suddenly.

We’re joined by longtime friend of the pod Brett Vergara.


‘FBOY Island’ Episodes 1–3 with the Watch What Crappens Guys

August 6th, 2021


F Boy? F Hi! It’s the HBO Max reality show that sounds like a “30 Rock” subplot that culminates in Jack Donaghy winning sweeps week — but it’s so, so …

‘Bachelorette’ S17 Hometowns with Laura Bassett

August 3rd, 2021


Welcome to a very difficult and complicated episode that has left us completely shattered.

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‘Bachelorette’ S17 Men Tell All with Kelly Johns

July 27th, 2021


Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about bro tears and bromance.

This week on The Bachelorette, it was Men Tell All time, and we were blessed with lots of both. Plus, some aggressive …

‘Bachelorette’ S17e7 with Leigh Blickley

July 20th, 2021


Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast where we dive deep into the world of modern art and floral vulvas. Or as burgeoning painter …

‘Bachelorette’ S17e6 with Aubrey Gordon

July 13th, 2021


Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about throwing shade and BLEEPing off.

We’re delving deep into the taboo and the edgy, as we get into the later stages of Katie Thurston’s journey to find love.

BONUS: ‘Too Hot To Handle’ S2 (Part 2)

July 9th, 2021


We’re back for part two of the sexiest, most prudish, show on TV: Too Hot To Handle! 

Kristen Meinzer — host of Movie Therapy and By The Book — is joining us for this very important episode.


‘Bachelorette’ S17e5 with Victoria Price and Mikayla Bartholomew

July 6th, 2021


Welcome to Love to See It, where we go to the bashball field and beyond to find the perfect strains of masculinity to accompany your commute.

Yes, …

BONUS: ‘Too Hot To Handle’ S2 (Part 1)

July 2nd, 2021


We’re talking about our favorite super sexy, super prudish, super anti-hot-vax-summer Netflix reality show, Too Hot to Handle!

Season 2 has finally dropped, and today we’re sinking our teeth into the juicy first four …

‘Bachelorette’ S17e4

June 29th, 2021


Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a true crime podcast about a man with a dark secret… a man who was open to the possibility of one day becoming Bachelor.

The darkest, dirtiest deed imaginable. This week, …

BONUS: ‘Rachel Lindsay Has No Roses Left to Burn’ with Erin Evans

June 25th, 2021


When in the course of Bachelor events it becomes necessary for a former Bachelorette to dissolve the bonds that tie her to the franchise and write a …

‘Bachelorette’ S17e3 with Sharleen Joynt and Andy Levine

June 22nd, 2021


Trigger warning: In this episode, we talk about sexual assault in the context of Katie’s discussion of it in this week’s episode of The Bachelorette. …

‘Bachelorette’ S17e2 with Michael Garofola

June 15th, 2021


Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about Western-themed erotic cinema. This week, we’re examining a modern classic: season 17, episode 2 of The Bachelorette.

Katie’s search for a lover begins in …

‘Bachelorette’ S17e1 with Molly Bernard

June 8th, 2021


It’s that time of year. 82% humidity in the 90-degree air, hordes of shrieking cicadas roaming the Eastern Seaboard, the dawning realization that you waited too long to reinstall your window AC unit — and, of course, …

‘Bachelorette’ S17 Preview — The Cast Bios

June 4th, 2021


After over half a decade podcasting about The Bachelor as Here to Make Friends, we have a new home and a new name! We’re extremely happy to be here at Stitcher, and to be launching Love to See It, a weekly podcast about …

'Bachelor' S25 Women Tell All with Chelsea Vaughn

March 2nd, 2021

We’re going to begin this week’s podcast with a discussion on Taylor Nolan’s old tweets that resurfaced over the weekend and what accountability, …

'Bachelor' S25e8 with Caroline Moss and Erin Evans

February 24th, 2021

**SPOILERS ALERT** We will be discussing reporting that includes spoilers. Please be warned. Skip forward to approximately 16:00 to get to the spoiler-free recap. Joining us to discuss our reporting on Matt James’ …

'Bachelor' S25e7 with Phoebe Robinson and British Baekoff

February 17th, 2021

It’s been a hell of a week, and before we recap the episode, we need to discuss what’s been going on offscreen.  For that discussion and our normal episode recap, we’re joined by the amazing comedian, author, …

'Bachelor' S25e6 with Ali Barthwell

February 9th, 2021

Welcome to Here to Make Friends, where we preach harmony and peace, and lead by example, because actions speak louder than words. All the great lessons we learned from The Bachelor. We’re halfway into Matt’s season …

'Bachelor' S25e5 with Alexa Losey

February 2nd, 2021

This week’s episode of The Bachelor may find a second life as a training video for teachers to recognize bullying dynamics in middle and high …

'Bachelor' S25e4 with Zara Rahim

January 26th, 2021

This week on Matt James’s journey to find love, we took one step forward and two giant steps back. We actually ended this episode with, somehow, more women than we started with -- and they even managed to jack up the …

'Bachelor' S25e3 with Arielle Duhaime-Ross

January 19th, 2021

This week, much like Chris Harrison and Matt’s women, we tried out our own Bachelor-centric erotica, full of turtleneck-clad abs and girthy arms. And …

'Bachelor' S25e2 with Erin Evans

January 12th, 2021

This week, honestly, we have a lot of questions about what we’re all doing here in Bachelor Nation. Like, is this a sorority? Are we here to make friends? We need more clarity on this! Maybe next week Victoria can shed …

‘Bachelor’ S25e1 with Sharleen Joynt

January 5th, 2021

Let our lead Matt James be clothed in earth-tone turtlenecks and let his roses be given in wisdom. Amen, and a-women. And now, let’s get to some heavy drinking and light making out! The 25th Bachelor season kicked off …

'Bachelorette' S16 Finale Part 2 with Vella Lovell

December 23rd, 2020

Welcome to our recap of what will go down in history as one of the greatest love stories of our time. We can’t remember the last time this show gave us a proposal as romantic as the one we got last night. This very …

‘Bachelorette’ S16 Finale Part 1 - The Fantasy Suite Dates

December 22nd, 2020

It’s finale week, and on today’s episode, the fantasy suites! We’re down to three potential partners for Tayshia, and sorry – we can’t choose. She’s going to have to marry all of them. In a just world, these sweet …

‘Bachelorette’ S16 Men Tell All + Hometown Dates with Erin Darke

December 16th, 2020

We get right into it this week because we have to cover four hours of The Bachelorette! We have to go from 8 guys down to 3. We have to talk about a Men Tell All held in a hermetically sealed chamber and a hometown …

'Bachelorette' S16e9 with Natasha Parker

December 9th, 2020

We will be discussing depression and suicide during this episode from around 39:00 to 58:00. If you or someone you know needs help, call 1-800-273-8255 for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. You can also text …

'Bachelorette' S16e8 with Brett Vergara

December 2nd, 2020

This episode contains a discussion on eating disorders from 58:20 to 1:10:00. If you're struggling with an eating disorder, call the National Eating Disorder Association hotline at 1-800-931-2237 or visit

'Bachelorette' S16e7 with Allison Williams

November 25th, 2020

It’s Thanksgiving week and for many of us, it may feel like there’s less to be thankful for than ever.  This has been a year filled with loneliness …

'Bachelorette' S16e6 with Arielle Duhaime-Ross

November 18th, 2020

Welcome to our grown-ass podcast. It’s a grown-ass show, where we discuss grown-ass men and grown-ass women and their grown-ass adventures on a grown-ass show called “The Bachelorette.” And last night, we closed the …

'Bachelorette' S16e5 with Liz Plank

November 11th, 2020

Sometimes, you just need your reality TV to be more boring than reality. A peaceful transition, new Bachelorette leadership installed without …

'Bachelorette' S16e4 with Ashley Spivey

November 6th, 2020

Well, at least we got to witness one peaceful transfer of power in this nation last night. It’s not the one we hoped for, personally, but hey. It’s …

'Bachelorette' S16e3 with Kate Stayman-London

October 28th, 2020

We are so excited to be here today to recap a dramatic episode of the hit game show “What Did Dale Say About Me, Exactly?” Truly action-packed, and …

'Bachelorette' S16e2 with Jessica Goodman

October 21st, 2020

Every week we tune into a new episode of The Bachelorette, and we simply don’t know what we’re going to get. Some episodes are really rich texts, with so much to unpack and examine… others are maybe more like pamphlets. …

‘Bachelorette’ S16e1 With Alyssa Mastromonaco

October 14th, 2020

We’ve waited so long for this and it’s finally here! Seven years after she first appeared on The Bachelor, Clare Crawley is our Bachelorette. We’re diving into a Bachelorette season that looks a lot different than we …

'Greatest Seasons Ever: Juan Pablo Galavis' with Sharleen Joynt

September 9th, 2020

We’ve come to the end of this pandemic summer and this seat-of-the-pants pandemic Bachelor show. So long, The Bachelor: The Greatest Seasons -- Ever! And for once the show has made a decision we can really get behind: …

‘Greatest Season Ever: Nick Viall’ with Taylor Nolan

September 2nd, 2020

This week, we took a trip all the way back to the dark days of early 2017 to revisit Nick Viall’s season of The Bachelor. And after suffering through …

'Greatest Seasons Ever: Jason Mesnick' with Jason Mesnick

August 12th, 2020

Time to take a virtual trip back to 2009. We were still youthful college students who hadn’t been swept up into Bachelor Nation’s inescapable pull …

'Greatest Seasons Ever: Ali Fedotowsky'

August 5th, 2020

It’s been two weeks since our last episode And we can’t believe how much has happened since then. Like… the whole Bachelorette season might be …

'Greatest Seasons Ever: Brad Womack' with Ashley Spivey

July 22nd, 2020

It’s 2007. The era of sweetheart necklines, poorly-structured empire waists, and, of course, the most hated man in America. No, not George W. Bush. Brad Womack, the slow-talking, monotone, chiseled Texan who walked onto …

Introducing D Is For Desire

July 14th, 2020

There was no new episode this week, so instead, we’re here to introduce you to a new member of the HuffPost podcast family. D Is For Desire is …

'Greatest Seasons Ever: Alex Michel and Trista Rehn' with LaNease Adams

July 8th, 2020

The year was 2002. We had it all: Dark neutral lipsticks, blurry camera phones, and, of course, The Bachelor!  We’re not saying that The Bachelor *took* our live show ideas, but we’re just saying, that if you liked …

'Greatest Seasons Ever: JoJo Fletcher' with Grant Kemp

July 1st, 2020

This week on The Bachelor: The Greatest Seasons -- Ever!, ABC is keeping us in the purgatory of 2016 with JoJo’s brutal season of The Bachelorette (aka the Trumpiest season of “The Bachelorette” ever.) We covered some …

'Greatest Seasons Ever: Ben Higgins' with Amber James and Jami Letain

June 24th, 2020

This week, we took a trip back to 2016 to revisit the last pre-Trump season of “The Bachelor.” Though we got to relive some of the good, bad and cringeworthy times of Ben’s season on Monday’s Bachelor special, we …

BONUS: When Bachelor Nation Declared Black Lives Matter (Sort Of)

June 18th, 2020

A lot has happened in the weeks since then-police officer Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd. This horrifying event sparked mass protests against …

‘Greatest Seasons Ever: Kaitlyn Bristowe’ with Jonathan Holloway + Kupah James

June 17th, 2020

This week, we go back to where it all started – for this podcast that is. Kaitlyn’s season was the first one that Here to Make Friends recapped, all the way back in 2015. By then, The Bachelor was more consistently …

‘Greatest Seasons Ever: Sean Lowe’ with Robyn Jedkins and Leslie Hughes

June 11th, 2020

We are coming back in the midst of a global pandemic and a series of nationwide (and global!) protests against racism and specifically police …

BONUS: A Conversation with Rob Mills

June 2nd, 2020

In an alternate reality, in a 2020 not derailed by the COVID-19 pandemic, Clare Crawley might already have been engaged -- and we would be getting …

BONUS: A Conversation with 'Listen to Your Heart' Winners Chris and Bri

May 21st, 2020

After vowing on this very podcast to never watch 'The Bachelor Presents: Listen to Your Heart', we have to eat our words and admit, we really loved it! The spin-off wrapped up its first season this past Monday with …

BONUS: 'Listen To Your Heart' With Julia Rae

May 5th, 2020

We’re dropping in today to check in - while we’ve been in quarantine, we’re still talking about all things The Bachelor on our Facebook and …

Introducing Here To Make Friends in Quarantine

April 10th, 2020

Can you believe it's been four long years since we recorded our episode on Peter's finale? Ok, it's only been four weeks, but while being in quarantine, it feels like a lifetime ago. We won't be doing the podcast …

'Bachelor' S24 Finale Part 2 With Sharleen Joynt

March 12th, 2020

We’re speechless. Hannah Ann left it all on the floor. Madison shared her truth. Barb was out for blood.  We’re joined by former contestant-turned recapper, Sharleen Joynt to break down the dramatic ending to Peter’s …

'Bachelor' S24 Finale Part 1 With Claire Fallon

March 10th, 2020

Look, bud. We gotta talk about this finale, bud. We didn’t feel much of anything for the women this season. But, let me tell you, bud, the most …

BONUS: A Conversation with 'Love Is Blind' Stars Lauren Speed and Cameron Hamilton

March 6th, 2020

We are still not over our obsession with Netflix's 'Love Is Blind' and especially the couple at the center of it, Cameron Hamilton and Lauren Speed. Lucky us, we had the happy couple in studio to talk about their …

'Bachelor' S24e10 With Allison Williams

March 3rd, 2020

Dear Peter Weber, we boarded your flight. We ate our free snacks and beverages. We watched lots of drama unfold on our in-seat screens. But now, we …

BONUS: 'Love Is Blind' With Jessa Crispin

February 28th, 2020

A ’90s boy band star. A streaming service. LED-lighted personal pods. A deep well of underlying sadness. What do all of these things have in common? “Love Is Blind,” an addictive and slightly dystopian reality show on …

'Bachelor' S24e9 With Daryn Carp

February 25th, 2020

G’day, Sheilas! The Bachelor went to Gold Coast, Australia for Fantasy Suites and, just like Pete, we can’t help but speak in horrific Australian …

'Bachelor' S24e8 With Erin Darke

February 18th, 2020

It’s already Hometowns! Joining us this week is actress and friend of the pod, Erin Darke. On this episode, we talk about Madison’s purity, Iowan wine, and the mysterious warning about Victoria F.  


BONUS: The Circle With Sean Taylor And Jenna Amatulli

February 14th, 2020

We know that we have been spending a lot of time -- more time than usual -- talking about The Bachelor, but there is STILL MORE POD CONTENT.  One of our other obsessions as of late has been with Netflix’s “The …

'Bachelor' S24e7 With Michael Garofola

February 11th, 2020

We’ve really been praying and reflecting, and thinking about what’s on our hearts. And the thing that’s on our hearts tell us that we need to recap last night’s episode of The Bachelor. On this episode, we’re joined …

'Bachelor' S24e6

February 6th, 2020

Enough is enough. Really. Peter and the remaining women have had enough, and frankly, so have we.  We are recapping this week’s second episode guest-less. On this episode, we talk about Leigh’s interview with Peter …

'Bachelor' S24e5 With Laura Bassett

February 4th, 2020

Well, we learned one thing last night: the only thing more incompetent than Pilot Pete is the Iowa Democratic Party. The most dramatic caucuses ever …

BONUS: Ben Higgins and Becca Kufrin Talk Peter’s Season and What to Expect From ‘The Bachelor: Live on Stage’

January 30th, 2020

We caught up with Ben Higgins and Becca Kufrin backstage at BUILD studios before they set off on tour with The Bachelor Live On Stage. They gave us their thoughts on how Peter’s season is going so far as well as the …

'Bachelor' S24e4 With Elise Foley

January 28th, 2020

We just want to tell you a little bit about what we perceived to be the truth in the moment that we were asked for the truth. We have a responsibility to tell you, beloved podcast listeners, the truth that we felt in …

'Bachelor' S24e3 With Megan Angelo

January 21st, 2020

This episode was a complete “fidasco.” Coming off of last week’s Champagne-gate, this episode of The Bachelor was full of women being mean to each …

'Bachelor' S24e2 With Brett Vergara

January 14th, 2020

It’s only week two and we’ve already arrived at the first big scandal of the season: Champagne-gate. Grab the closest bottle of bubbly (it doesn’t matter if it’s yours or not), take a big swig, and settle in for our …

'Bachelor' S24e1 With Cole Delbyck

January 7th, 2020

Was this the best Bachelor premiere ever? The first three hours of Pilot Pete’s season gave us new love, old love, and a vow renewal. On this …

'Bachelor' S24 Preview - The Cast Bios

December 23rd, 2019

It’s the most wonderful time of the year! No, we’re not talking about the holiday season, we’re talking about the new season of The Bachelor! Ahead …

LIVE from The Bell House: ‘Bachelor’ S1 Finale with Erin Darke and Season One Winner Amanda Marsh Caldwell

December 4th, 2019

We’re here with our show from The Bell House in Brooklyn! Actress, activist and friend of the pod, Erin Darke joined us on stage to recap the finale of the first season of The Bachelor. Alex Michel has said goodbye to …

BONUS: ‘Bachelor’ S1 Women Tell All

November 14th, 2019

In anticipation of our final live show, we returned to the studio to recap the first ever Women Tell All special. It was certainly less dramatic than today’s Tell All's and unfortunately, Alex Michel was not forced to …

LIVE from The Miracle Theatre: 'Bachelor' S1e5 with Daryn Carp & Special Guests

November 6th, 2019

We’re here with our show at The Miracle Theater in Washington DC! Bravo TV personality Daryn Carp joined us to recap episode 5 of the first season of The Bachelor, featuring the first ever fantasy dates to exotic …

Join Us at The Bell House on November 21st!

November 1st, 2019

The ghosts of Bachelors past stopped by the studio to help us give you an update on the final show of our live tour. We'll be recapping the first season finale at The Bell House in Brooklyn on Thursday November 21. …

LIVE from The Newport Theater: ‘Bachelor’ S1e4 With Ali Barthwell and Bachelor Alums

October 25th, 2019

It's Hometown week on season one of The Bachelor and just like Alex Michel, Here To Make Friends hit the road and went to Chicago to talk about …

LIVE from Gramercy Theatre: ‘Bachelor’ S1e3 With Phoebe Robinson, Derek Peth and Michael Garofola

October 9th, 2019

We continued our live tour recapping season one of The Bachelor by going to Gramercy Theatre last month to talk about episode three with special guest Phoebe Robinson. It was a monumental episode featuring the first …

Here To Make Friends LIVE! - Announcing Fall Dates

October 3rd, 2019

Surprise! We're back in your feeds to announce two more live shows! We'll be recapping episode five of the first season of The Bachelor at The Miracle Theater in Washington DC on Monday October 21. You can get tickets …

LIVE from World Cafe Live: ‘Bachelor’ S1e2 With Ashley Spivey and Brett Vergara

September 27th, 2019

Back in August, we were in Philadelphia to talk about episode two of the first ever season of The Bachelor. We had a great time in the home of Gritty to talk about the first appearance of Bachelor fantasy dates with …

'Paradise' S6 Finale

September 19th, 2019

After seven weeks, we’ve reached the end of our time in Paradise this summer. Which couple got engaged? Which couple broke up? Which couple got engaged and then looked pretty unhappy at the reunion? All of our burning …

Paradise' S6 Week 6 With Amanda Mitchell

September 11th, 2019

Last night, we settled onto our couch, ready to watch the dramatic and proposal-filled Bachelor in Paradise finale that turned out to not be a finale at all. That’s right, while we’ve reached the end of rose ceremonies …

'Paradise' S6 Week 5

September 4th, 2019

We’re recapping solo today, as we get ready for our live show at Gramercy Theater in Manhattan tonight! Tickets are still available and we’d love to …

'Paradise' S6 Week 4 With Daryn Carp

August 28th, 2019

We owe a lot of people an apology this week. Especially anyone we’ve ever invited on this podcast or anyone we’ve ever even mentioned the podcast to. …

Paradise S6 Week 3 With Brett Vergara

August 21st, 2019

Week three of Bachelor in Paradise began with two men fighting and ended with two women in love. In between, there were surprising decisions at the …

'Paradise' S6 Week 2 With Erin Darke

August 14th, 2019

Guess what? Today is a new day, and I know it’s going to be a great one. Do you know why?  Because we’re still here recapping Bachelor in Paradise. Smiley face. On this episode of Here To Make Friends, we’re joined by …

'Paradise' S6 Week 1 With Michael Garofola

August 7th, 2019

Welcome back to Paradise! A new group of Bachelor favorites have arrived in Sayulita, Mexico. The sun, the sand, the love triangles… or in Blake’s …

'Bachelorette' S15 Finale Part 2 With Ashley Spivey

July 31st, 2019

Could this have been the greatest Bachelorette finale ever? We’re pretty comfortable throwing around that superlative after last night’s episode. We …

'Bachelorette' S15 Finale Part 1

July 30th, 2019

Wow, part one of Hannah’s epic, two-night, four-hour Bachelorette finale has come to an end and boy was it a dud. On this episode, we talk about Peter’s extremely supportive parents, Jed’s financial stability, and why …

LIVE from The Bell House: ‘Bachelor’ S1e1 With Alyssa Mastromonaco and Bachelor Alums

July 26th, 2019

Here To Make Friends comes to you from The Bell House in Brooklyn for our first ever public live show! We recapped a vintage episode -- the first ever episode of The Bachelor. Along with special guest Alyssa …

'Bachelorette' S15e11

July 23rd, 2019

For one last time (we hope), welcome to the Luke P show. From hijacking the rose ceremony to taking over the Men Tell All panel, Luke’s last hurrah …

'Bachelorette' S15e10 With Rachel Lindsay

July 16th, 2019

Hannah is ready to get dowwwwwwn in the Fantasy Suites and we are ready to talk about everything that went down this week. On this episode, with the …

'Bachelorette' S15e9 With Brett Vergara

July 9th, 2019

It’s hometown week! Hannah is down to her final four guys and it’s time for her to see where they come from. On this episode, we’re joined by friend …

'Bachelorette' S15e8 With Leigh Blickley

July 2nd, 2019

It's the week before hometowns and there are seven men left. Hannah is walking through a field of tulips in Amsterdam and she’s ready to move past …

BONUS: 'Inside 'Are You the One?', the Wildest Dating Show You're Not Talking Enough About' With Kate Dries

June 27th, 2019

We’re here with a little surprise bonus episode from the world of dating reality shows -- today, we’re talking about MTV’s Are You the One. Our guest Kate Dries, Senior Features Editor at Vice, is not only a fan of the …

'Bachelorette' S15e7 With Tierney Bricker and Vella Lovell

June 25th, 2019

Riga! After last night’s episode, we just want to run out into the streets screaming about how much we want to find love in Riga, Latvia. On week seven of The Bachelorette, Tyler C. continues to be the romance novel …

'Bachelorette' S15e6 With Mattie Kahn

June 18th, 2019

We somehow managed to get a full podcast out of last night’s half-episode of The Bachelorette. On this episode of Here To Make Friends, we talk about …

'Bachelorette' S15e5 With 2 Black Girls, 1 Rose

June 12th, 2019

This week, we want to give you clarity, so we’re gonna be real and we’re gonna be raw. We’re not perfect and we want you to know our flaws. Imagine …

BONUS: 'Is A Feminist Dating Show Even Possible?' - Live at The Wing DUMBO

June 7th, 2019

Surprise! We’re here with a special bonus episode of Here to Make Friends, taped from a live panel about feminism and reality dating television shows at The Wing in DUMBO. We were joined by two special guests, Ashley …

'Bachelorette' S15e4 With Erin Darke

June 4th, 2019

Welcome to Here to Make Friends, founded by Simone de Beauvoir in 1754! This is the fake news edition of the podcast. Hannah really inspired us. On week four of The Bachelorette, we take a trip up to New England, where …

'Bachelorette' S15e3 With Sydney Lotuaco

May 28th, 2019

Watching The Bachelorette is always a labor of love, but this week’s episode was full of a different kind of labor… labor pains, to be exact. On week …

'Bachelorette' S15e2 With Alyssa Mastromonaco

May 21st, 2019

What a time to be watching a Bachelorette who reps hard for Alabama, while just last week, the state passed one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the nation. Hmm… On week two of The Bachelorette, Hannah looks for …

'Bachelorette' S15e1 With Matt Jacobs

May 14th, 2019

Here To Make Friends is back! Kicking off this season, Claire and Emma are joined by HuffPost colleague Matt Jacobs to dissect every moment from ‘The …

'Bachelorette' S15 Preview – The Cast Bios + The Bachelorette Reunion Special

May 10th, 2019

Season 15 of The Bachelorette begins next week! On this preview episode, Claire and Emma recap “The Biggest Bachelorette Reunion in Bachelor History Ever!” and later in the episode offer their signature analysis of the …

'Bachelor' S23 Finale Part 2 With Erin Darke

March 13th, 2019

Last night on the Bachelor finale, we saw a love story unlike any other. Colton’s journey came to a surprising conclusion. The romance… the passion… …

'Bachelor' S23 Finale Part 1

March 12th, 2019

We open on the Portuguese countryside. Dogs are barking. Producers are scrambling. Colton is nowhere to be found. Welcome to part one of The Bachelor …

'Bachelor' S23 Bonus With Katie Morton

March 7th, 2019

For the third time this week we are pleased to present Here To Make Friends! On this bonus episode we are joined by 'Bachelor' season 23 cast member …

'Bachelor' S23e10 With Alyssa Mastromonaco

March 6th, 2019

We’re back! And we’re emotionally exhausted after the two-hour screaming match that was Women Tell All. On this episode, we’re joined by New York Times bestselling author Alyssa Mastromonaco, to talk about the many …

'Bachelor' S23e9 With Sharleen Joynt

March 5th, 2019

It finally happened! The long awaited fence jump! It was everything we dreamed of and more. For the first time in Bachelor history, a long-teased …

'Bachelor' S23e8 With Leigh Blickley

February 26th, 2019

We happily give all of you our permission and blessing to listen to this week’s episode. It’s hometown week and Colton has families to meet, …

'Bachelor' S23e7 With Nick Viall

February 19th, 2019

Another week and still no fence jump?! Instead, the contestants spend time in Colton’s hometown of Denver. On this episode, Tayshia spills the tea, …

'Bachelor' S23 Bonus With Producers Of The Bachelor Vietnam

February 15th, 2019

Last year, The Bachelor franchise aired what might be THE most dramatic rose ceremony ever. In a moment that went viral worldwide, Minh Thu, a contestant on The Bachelor Vietnam, confessed her love for fellow contestant …

'Bachelor' S23e6 With Derek Peth

February 12th, 2019

This week’s episode of The Bachelor gave us all a reason to think about the best part of any good first date. Is it the butterflies beforehand? Getting to know each other? Or the excitement of a possible future? …

'Bachelor' S23e5 With Ashley Spivey

February 5th, 2019

It was a night of firsts on The Bachelor this week. First kiss, first voluntary departure, and first... loud fight about bullying at the cocktail …

'Bachelor' S23e4 With Brett Vergara

January 29th, 2019

Down to 15 girls and ‘The Bachelor’ makes its way to Singapore! This week, Tayshia takes the plunge, Demi leeches onto Colton, and Caelynn shares a …

'Bachelor' S23e3 With Priscilla Frank

January 22nd, 2019

Yo ho ho. This week, Caelynn walks the plank and gets a group date rose, Hannah is ‘befumbled’, Elyse takes her first helicopter ride and after opening up about her sister’s death, dances on a platform at a country …

'Bachelor' S23e2 With Erin Darke

January 15th, 2019

Welcome to the Cougar Den! Today on the pod, Emma and Claire are joined by Erin Darke, a fellow brave thirtysomething hero, to talk about what they learned on week two of ‘The Bachelor’. On this episode, Hannah B. …

'Bachelor' S23 Bonus: Behind The Scenes With Kristen Baldwin

January 10th, 2019

Have you ever imagined what it’s like to be inside the Bachelor mansion on night one as the limos pull up and the first roses are handed out? Kristen …

'Bachelor' S23e1 With Allison Williams

January 8th, 2019

Here To Make Friends returns! On this episode, Allison Williams joins to help break down the premiere of season 23 of ‘The Bachelor’. In the discussion, we wade through the many intro packages, gimmicky limo entrances, …

'Bachelor' S23 Preview – The Cast Bios

December 13th, 2018

Here To Make Friends returns! On this episode, Claire and Emma offer their expert analysis of the cast bios released before Colton's season of 'The …

Check In – And Check Out IVFML Season 2!

October 26th, 2018

On this quick bonus episode, Claire and Emma discuss the latest forensic analysis from Jenna and Jordan, look ahead with hope to Colton's season, AND …

‘Paradise’ S5 Finale

September 12th, 2018

The Paradise finale was full of twists and turns, break ups and engagements. Who went to the Fantasy Suites? Who broke up? Who’s getting married? We …

‘Paradise’ S5 Week 5 With Nick Viall

September 5th, 2018

Eric moved on from the cheese, Colton and Tia broke up, and there was a witch hunt, which is actually a pretty good metaphor for this show as a …

‘Paradise’ S5 Week 4 With Kenny King

August 29th, 2018

Things got very triangular on Paradise this week. We had Jordan, Jenna and Benoit… Chris, Krystal and Connor… Joe, Kendall and Leo… the list goes on. …

‘Paradise’ S5 Week 3 With Jacqueline Trumbull

August 22nd, 2018

We know you came here for a Bachelor In Paradise recap, but this is now a Peter Kavinsky and Laura Jean fan podcast. …Just kidding. While we’d love …

‘Paradise’ S5 Week 2 With Priscilla Frank

August 15th, 2018

We’re back to the beaches of Sayulita, Mexico, where the vaginas aren’t dancing and the men are weeping. Four hours of Paradise this week means we …

‘Paradise’ S5 Week 1 With Brett Vergara

August 8th, 2018

New setting, new show, same drama. It’s Colton and Tia: The Spin-off! And, you know, 20 or so other hot singles on a beach. Honestly, we’re just so …

‘Bachelorette’ S14 Finale With Allison Williams

August 7th, 2018

On this episode, Allison Williams joins to recap ‘The Bachelorette’ season 14 finale. We discuss Becca’s level of happiness, Garrett’s poetic kind of …

'Bachelorette' S14 Bonus With Robert Mills

August 2nd, 2018

This season has been full of intrigue and scandal, so we wanted to get the scoop from someone who knows what’s going on behind the scenes -- Rob …

'Bachelorette' S14 Men Tell All With Michael Garofola

July 31st, 2018

It was a classic Men Tell All last night... in that the men did not tell all. We really learned nothing new, except that they all still love Becca. …

'Bachelorette' S14e9 With Caila Quinn

July 24th, 2018

It’s fantasy suite week! And this season, the fantasy suite truly turned into a regular dream suite. Not too amazing, not too terrible, just normal! …

'Bachelorette' S14e8 With Kristen Baldwin

July 17th, 2018

It’s hometown week! And the biggest topics of the episode were… Colton being a virgin and his history with Tia. We’ve made so much progress since the …

Bonus: UnREAL With Shiri Appleby

July 16th, 2018

On this surprise bonus episode, Shiri Appleby joins Here To Make Friends to discuss the latest and final season of UnREAL, acting and directing since #MeToo, and more.  

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'Bachelorette' S14e7 With Tierney Bricker

July 10th, 2018

Last night, Colton revealed he's still a virgin, Garrett counted the times he's ever been discouraged, and Blake showed his dance moves. In other …

'Bachelorette' S14e6 With Derek Peth

July 3rd, 2018

Virginia is for lovers ... or so they say! On this episode, Jason rises the ranks, Chris flames out "guns blazing", and Becca finds a friend in Leo. BOTH Claire and Emma are back this week, and they are joined by good …

'Bachelorette' S14e5 With Kate Dries

June 26th, 2018

Last night on 'The Bachelorette' we finally arrived at this season's highly anticipated two-on-one date between Jordan and David. But amazingly, it was all overshadowed by Chris and his massive sense of entitlement. And …

'Bachelorette' S14e4 With Ali Barthwell And Ashley Spivey

June 19th, 2018

This week, we learned a lot from “The Bachelorette.” We learned about the meaning of angled collars. We learned that there are actually still people …

'Bachelorette' S14 Bonus With Reality Steve

June 15th, 2018

On this bonus episode, Emma Gray catches up with Reality Steve about this week's news off camera – Season 14 contestant Lincoln Adim has been …

'Bachelorette' S14e3 With Erin Darke

June 12th, 2018

On this episode, Erin Darke joins Emma to recap episode three of Becca's season. Jordan continues to make great television, Colton and Tia move on, …

'Bachelorette' S14e2 With Brett Vergara

June 5th, 2018

Week 2 felt a lot more like a week 6! On this episode, Claire is joined by Brett Vergara to recap episode two of Becca's season. They discuss the …

'Bachelorette' S14 Bonus With Jake Enyeart

June 1st, 2018

So, you may remember Jake Enyeart, who got sent home before the rose ceremony because he already knew Becca. We wanted to get a little more insight on their confusing shared history, so we called him up and talked to …

'Bachelorette' S14e1 With Allison Williams

May 29th, 2018

Night one is upon us! On this episode Claire and Emma breakdown the intro packages, the quirky entrances, and wade through a Bachelorette Mansion driveway littered with gimmicks, catch-phrases, and so much ogling. Plus, …

'Bachelorette' S14 Preview – The Cast Bios

May 18th, 2018

We did the damn thing! 'The Bachelorette' cast bios are out, and this season they're a little lighter than usual. But that didn't stop Claire and Emma who are back at it and bringing you their signature snark and expert …

BONUS: Live at SXSW With Brittany Taylor

March 12th, 2018

We’re still not over that two-part season finale. So we flew to Austin to talk about it all over again with season 22 contestant, Brittany Taylor, …

'Bachelor' S22 Finale Part 2 With Amy Kaufman

March 7th, 2018

It's The Bachelor finale (part two) – plus, After The Final Rose. Arie tries for reconciliation, proposes to Lauren, and Becca is our next Bachelorette! Here to cover it all and more, we’re joined by the definitive …

'Bachelor' S22 Finale Part 1 With Jacqueline Trumbull

March 6th, 2018

The Bachelor lived up to the hype, and though it was painful, it turned out to be perhaps the most dramatic finale ever. Tonight ABC will deliver two …

'Bachelor' S22e9 The Fantasy Suites With Vella Lovell

February 27th, 2018

Last night we watched the fantasy suite dates! They’re in Peru! Arie points out that Peru has lots of culture, Machu Picchu, the Nazca Lines, and …

'Bachelor' S22 Women Tell All With Marikh Mathias

February 26th, 2018

On this episode we’re going to try to recap what we managed to glean from this Women Tell All. Last night, Caroline teased the drama to come, Bekah …

BONUS: 'Winter Games' Week 2 With Megan Angelo

February 23rd, 2018

Megan Angelo joins the pod and takes us behind the scenes into her reporting from 'The Bachelor Winter Games'. On this episode we ask whether this special programming was a success, and if it will return. And of course, …

'Bachelor' S22e8 – The Hometown Dates

February 20th, 2018

We've made it to the hometown dates and Arie is showing signs of stress. This week we encountered Kendall's storage unit full of taxidermy, plus her …

BONUS: 'Winter Games' Week 1 With Michael Garofola

February 16th, 2018

Michael Garofola joins us to offer a behind the scenes look at The Bachelor Winter Games. He breaks down the love triangles, the bromances, what got …

'Bachelor' S22e7 With Caila Quinn

February 13th, 2018

Buongiorno! This week Arie and the remaining women are in Tuscany. There were pop-up bakers, signature make-out sessions with backs against stone walls, and even a surrogate Italian family. It was a cinematic episode, …

BONUS: 'Winter Games' Preview With Lesley Murphy

February 9th, 2018

Winter is here, Winter Games are coming, and we have so many questions! Here to brief you (and us) on everything 'Bachelor Winter Games' is contestant Lesley Murphy, formerly of 'The Bachelor' season 17 (Sean Lowe's …

'Bachelor' S22e6 With Olivia Caridi & Brandi Cyrus

February 6th, 2018

Arie and the remaining contestants are in Paris! This week – a river boat cruise, a group date at the Moulin Rouge, a two on one date featuring a …

'Bachelor' S22e5 With Erin Darke

January 30th, 2018

This week on Here To Make Friends, we're putting ourselves out there and giving you everything we've got – fun, passionate, sad, emotional, excited, and ... futuristic? Last night, Krystal got put in the dog house BUT …

'Bachelor' S22e4 With Kristen Baldwin

January 23rd, 2018

It's week 4 and we've finally left the bachelor mansion for South Lake Tahoe! On this episode, Sienne wins our hearts (again), Kendall eats bugs for Arie, Marikh gets glam-shamed, and Bekah reveals her age! And, Krystal …

'Bachelor' S22e3 With Ashley Spivey

January 16th, 2018

This week, Claire and Emma are joined by Bachelor alum, Ashley Spivey. Together they breakdown two group dates – GLOW inspired wrestling and a dog circus competition – plus, an early one-on-one exit in wine country. On …

'Bachelor' S22e2 With Taylor Nolan and Derek Peth

January 9th, 2018

This season is starting to heat up! There were the premature one on one dates, plus bumper car trauma, and a fiery rant at the cocktail party. On …

Bonus: Single State of Mind With Andi Dorfman

January 8th, 2018

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'Bachelor' S22e1 With Brett Vergara

January 2nd, 2018

Trinkets, tchotchkes, and doodads! The first night has come and gone. Joining to recap every last entrance, gimmick, and early exit, is Brett Vergara. Excitement!  

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'Bachelor' S22 Preview – The Cast Bios

December 13th, 2017

We're back! On this season preview episode, Claire and Emma breakdown ABC's Countdown to Arie special, and snarkily review all 29 contestant bios. Buckle up and get ready for season 22 of The Bachelor, coming in …

'Paradise' S4 Bonus with Kristina Schulman

September 15th, 2017

You thought we were done? We thought we were done. Just about everyone who watched Bachelor in Paradise fell totally in love with Kristina Schulman, …

'Paradise' S4 Bonus with Taylor Nolan and Derek Peth

September 13th, 2017

We're in the presence of true love. Taylor Nolan and Derek Peth join us to relive their journey together in Paradise. They help us unpack all of the …

'Paradise' S4 Finale with Ashley Spivey

September 12th, 2017

Paradise really ended on a high last night – for starters it was only two hours of television. We go through the breakups and goodbyes, the final couples, and then look ahead to Arie's coming season of The Bachelor. To …

'Paradise' S4 Bonus with Christen Whitney

September 11th, 2017

On this bonus episode, we catch up with Christen Whitney from 'Paradise' about her scallop shaming, her interest from the many men in Mexico, and her thoughts about the next bachelor.  

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'Paradise' S4 Week 4

September 6th, 2017

The journey is almost over, and we should be thinking about love. So this week in Paradise, love triangles and love squares. Plus, Robby takes it …

'Paradise' S4 Week 3 with Jada Yuan

August 30th, 2017

This was supposed to be our refuge, and instead it was four hours of middle-school BS. We're joined by Jada Yuan of New York Magazine and Vulture, to …

'Paradise' S4 Week 2 with Diggy Moreland

August 23rd, 2017

We can’t wait for the girls to have the roses again. Please end this mess! Guys like Dean and Adam should not be juggling two perfect women apiece. …

'Paradise' S4 Week 1 with Brett Vergara

August 16th, 2017

After a sexual misconduct investigation, 'Bachelor In Paradise' is back for season 4. And despite the hype, the incident was mostly ignored in episode 1. We met the cast, said goodbye to Jorge, DeMario and Corrine, and …

'Bachelorette' S13 Bonus with Eric Bigger

August 10th, 2017

We've been keeping a mystery episode from you. We teased this interview a couple weeks ago, and we're sorry if we lead you astray! It's miracle season! We're joined by Eric Bigger, and we can finally air this, because …

'Bachelorette' S13 Finale With Jamia Wilson

August 8th, 2017

We're so devastated, but also truly happy. It's The Bachelorette finale and Rachel is engaged to Bryan. But first, she has to send Eric home and …

'Bachelorette' S13 Men Tell All with Sharleen Joynt

August 1st, 2017

Some people hate it, but we love it -- it’s the episode where the men don’t exactly tell all, but they do talk back a little bit. Last night, we heard Blake and Lucas revisit Bananagate, sort of, DeMario defending the …

Bonus: 'Bachelorette' By The Numbers with Ella Koeze And Walt Hickey

July 27th, 2017

We have an unbelievable amount of useless knowledge about The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. But today we're stepping into new territory for the podcast and diving deep into the data. We're joined for this bonus episode …

'Bachelorette' S13e9 With Allison P. Davis

July 25th, 2017

Another week, another cliff hanger. On this episode, the remaining guys meet Rachel's family in Dallas. Plus, Bryan clashes with Rachel's family, …

'Bachelorette' S13e8 With Jasmyn Lawson

July 18th, 2017

We've made it to the hometown dates and we're joined by Jasmyn Lawson, Culture Editor at Giphy. Listen along as we relive the joy of Aunt Verna, the …

'Bachelorette' S13e7 With Ali Barthwell

July 11th, 2017

Adam? Matt? Who are these people?! To help us remember these contestants, we're joined by Ali Barthwell, Vulture recapper extraordinaire -- and she's …

Bonus: There's Nothing Quite Like Your First Time

July 6th, 2017

There's no episode to recap this week, so we decided to talk about “Bachelorette” firsts: the experience of being a first time viewer of the show, the significance of the first black Bachelorette, and what it’s like to …

'Bachelorette' S13e6 With Erin Darke

June 28th, 2017

We're back for the second time this week. Actress Erin Darke joins to send off 'snakey' Lee, discuss Eric's need for affirmation, and the consistently wild misdirection from ABC's promos. We also enjoy more lovely dates …

'Bachelorette' S13e5 With Phoebe Robinson

June 27th, 2017

On this episode, we talk through part one of Kenny & Lee's two on one date, and we're just hoping that Lee get's washed under in the tide of realness that is Kenny. We're joined by Phoebe Robinson of the amazing 2 …

Bonus: 'Paradise' Resumes Production, We Ask More Questions

June 22nd, 2017

Bachelor In Paradise is back! But questions linger and a dark cloud looms over the franchise. On this bonus episode, Claire and Emma speak with Lisa Bloom, a notable civil rights attorney, about the legal implications …

'Bachelorette' S13e4 With Claire Fallon and Emma Gray

June 20th, 2017

On this episode, Claire and Emma relive the freestyle battles, an unwanted woodcarving, a possibly rigged spelling bee, an emotional and boozy blimp flight, and the obligatory and awkward country singer slow dance. All …

Bonus: 'Paradise' Production Halted

June 13th, 2017

Following allegations of misconduct, production of season 4 of 'Bachelor In Paradise' has been suspended. Here to help us sort through the various …

'Bachelorette' S13e3 With Vella Lovell

June 6th, 2017

This week, Rachel takes some frontrunners to tape “Ellen,” rides horses into Beverly Hills boutiques with Anthony, and watches some men mud-wrestle …

'Bachelorette' S13e2 With Kevin Nguyen

May 30th, 2017

Last night was an episode 2 that felt like an episode 5. (That's a compliment.) We had Mila and Ashton, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, and a certain contestant …

'Bachelorette' S13e1 With Allison Williams and Zeba Blay

May 23rd, 2017

This week, Rachel met her new boyfriends, plus a doll from a horror film, on a freshly sprinkled driveway. On the podcast, Claire Fallon, Emma Gray, …

'Bachelorette' S13 Preview – The Cast Bios

May 19th, 2017

Emma and Claire dissect all 31 cast bios of the men hoping to win Rachel's heart – listen along as they pick their faves! Amongst the most diverse cast ever they uncover patterns, including a common love for Dwayne 'The …

'Bachelorette' S13 Preview LIVE at AOL BUILD With Olivia Caridi And Alexis Waters

May 17th, 2017

We're less than one week away from Rachel Lindsay's season of The Bachelorette and we're so excited. To kick things off, Claire and Emma are joined by Bachelor alums Olivia Caridi and Alexis Waters for a special live …

'Bachelor' S21 Finale With Phoebe Robinson

March 15th, 2017

Nick’s love journey has come to an awkward, snowy conclusion. Claire Fallon, Emma Gray, and guest Phoebe Robinson discuss husky puppies, horseback riding, Santa Claus, ill-advised racial jokes and more highs and lows …

'Bachelor' S21 Overview – Live at AOL BUILD

March 14th, 2017

On this episode ― taped live from AOL BUILD, pre-finale and pre-blizzard ― Claire Fallon, Emma Gray, Leigh Blickley and guest Olivia Caridi assess Nick’s performance as The Bachelor, recap the most shocking season in …

'Bachelor' S21 Bonus With Allison Williams

March 9th, 2017

Emma & Claire are joined by 'Bachelor' super-fan Allison Williams of HBO's 'Girls' and the new blockbuster film 'Get Out.' They reflect on Nick's …

'Bachelor' S21e10 + WTA With Sharleen Joynt

March 8th, 2017

This week, Claire and Emma are joined by 'Bachelor' season 18 alum Sharleen Joynt. They talk snow angels, tearful goodbyes, single-serve cheese …

'Bachelor' S21 Bonus With Kristina Schulman

March 3rd, 2017

In this bonus interview, Claire & Emma are joined over the phone by Season 21 fan favorite Kristina Schulman. They discuss the friendships …

'Bachelor' S21 Bonus With Taylor Nolan

February 24th, 2017

Bonus! Claire & Emma are joined by season 21 resident mental health counselor Taylor Nolan. They discuss Corinne, the voodoo bayou two-on-one …

'Bachelor' S21e8 With Max Godnick & Sam Usher

February 21st, 2017

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guests Max Godnick and Sam Usher of The Bachelor Dudes, talk olive repulsion, luxury sweatsuits, …

'Bachelor' S21e7 With Danny Hoyt

February 14th, 2017

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with special guest Danny Hoyt of AfterBuzz TV, talk cheese cube towers, not being great enough, opening up emotionally on boats and more high notes from Episode 7. Plus, a …

'Bachelor' S21 Bonus With Nick Viall

February 10th, 2017

Surprise! This episode, Claire sits down with the man himself. In their conversation, Nick offers a thoughtful defense of the season’s villain, …

'Bachelor' S21e6 With Kate Dries

February 7th, 2017

Claire Fallon and special guest Kate Dries, deputy editor of, talk through two-on-one fever, drunk beach volleyball, light sexual …

'Bachelor' S21 Bonus With Evan Bass & Carly Waddell

February 3rd, 2017

Finally, this week, we got the last couple standing from Paradise S3 – Evan Bass & Carly Waddell– in the studio! And it turns out, Evan and Carly …

'Bachelor' S21e5 With Ali Barthwell

January 31st, 2017

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guest and Vulture recapper Ali Barthwell, talk plantation romance, ahistorical voodoo, Bachelor …

'Bachelor' S21e4 With Caila Quinn

January 24th, 2017

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guest and former “Bachelor” star Caila Quinn, talk shoveling cow poopy, the dangers of poor finger …

'Bachelor' S21e3 With Jada Yuan

January 17th, 2017

This week, Claire Fallon and Emma Gray, along with guest Jada Yuan of New York Magazine, talk Nickathlons, planned dancing, bouncy castle hook-ups and other lowlights from episode three of the most shocking season in …

‘Bachelor’ S21e2 With Olivia Caridi

January 10th, 2017

‘Bachelor’ season 20 star Olivia Caridi joins Claire & Emma to recap Nick V’s second episode as The Bachelor. They discuss topless Corinne, Danielle M’s sad backstory, Josephine’s slap, and Nick’s misplay with Liz. …

‘Bachelor’ S21e1 With Michael Garofola

January 3rd, 2017

Former ‘Bachelorette’ star Michael Garofola joins Claire & Emma to recap Nick V’s season premiere of The Bachelor. They discuss the quirky …

‘Bachelor’ S21 Preview With Bachelor Dudes

December 13th, 2016

Bachelor Dudes Max Godnick and Sam Usher join in and help us learn about the many diverse women in the cast. We also discuss the cast’s shared love …

'Paradise' S3 Bonus With Jared Haibon, Ben Rosenfield, And Lisa Rotondi

September 14th, 2016

Ben Rosenfield & Lisa Rotondi, star couple of the short-lived dating show Coupled, join the pod to talk about what makes for good reality dating television. Later in the episode, Emma & Claire chat with Jared …

‘Paradise’ S3e6 With Izzy Goodkind & Caila Quinn

September 7th, 2016

Claire & Emma are joined by Izzy Goodkind to recap the season finale of ‘Paradise.’ They discuss the engagements, the breakups, and Vizzy. Later, Caila Quinn returns to chat with Emma and reflect on the drama …

‘Paradise’ S3e5 With Ashley Spivey

August 31st, 2016

Emma & Claire are joined by ‘Bachelor’ alum Ashley Spivey to recap episode five of Paradise! They discuss the twins’ exit, the return of Wells, Brett’s subtle creepiness, Nick Viall’s ‘Bachelor’ announcement, and …

'Paradise' S3e4 With Michael Garofola

August 24th, 2016

Emma & Claire are joined by ‘Bachelor’ universe alum Michael Garofola to recap episode 4 of ‘Bachelor In Paradise.’ They discuss Ashley I’s …

‘Paradise’ S3e3 With Caila Quinn

August 17th, 2016

Emma & Claire are joined by "Bachelor In Paradise" cast member Caila Quinn (yes, the one with the angel hair), to recap week 3 of "BIP." They discuss what really went down between Jared, Caila and Ashley I., Evan's …

'Paradise' S3e2 With Sarah Herron & Jada Yuan

August 10th, 2016

Emma & Claire are joined by Jada Yuan, contributing editor at New York Magazine. They recap this week’s dates, exits, and new arrivals, and discuss the irresponsibility of ABC bringing back Josh Murray. Later in the …

‘Paradise’ S3e1 With Tracy McMillan

August 3rd, 2016

Emma & Claire are joined by author and screenwriter Tracy McMillan to recap the premiere episode from season three of Bachelor In Paradise. They discuss Lace’s new mindset, dissect Daniel’s unfortunate misogyny, …

‘Bachelorette’ S12 Finale With Olivia Caridi & Reality Steve

August 2nd, 2016

This episode, hosts Emma & Claire are joined by Bachelor season 20 alum Olivia Caridi. They discuss JoJo's breakup with Robby, Jordan's tasteful …

'Bachelorette' Men Tell All With Wells Adams

July 27th, 2016

After weeks of badgering him on Twitter, fan favorite Wells Adams joins Emma & Claire to recap the Men Tell All. He shares his insights & secrets from behind the scenes, breaks down some of the more memorable …

'Bachelorette' S12e9 With The Bachelor Dudes

July 26th, 2016

This episode, Emma & Claire are joined by The Bachelor Dudes, Max Godnick and Sammy Smith, to recap JoJo’s fantasy suite dates. They discuss the …

‘Bachelorette’ S12e8 With Caila Quinn

July 19th, 2016

This episode, Emma & Claire are joined by “Bachelor” season 20 alum Caila Quinn. They breakdown the hometown dates, discuss Robby’s mama leaking his ex drama, and contemplate Luke’s slow transformation into the man …

‘Bachelorette’ S12e7 With Jamie Otis, Damon Beres, & Emily Warman

July 12th, 2016

In this week’s episode, host Claire Fallon recaps the seventh episode of Season 12 with guest hosts Emily Warman of AOL Partner Studio and HuffPost Tech editor Damon Beres. (Co-host Emma Gray will be back next week!) …

Bonus: UnREAL, Coupled, And Bachelor Gossip

July 5th, 2016

This week ABC aired a rerun of “The Bachelorette” instead of a new episode. So in this bonus Here To Make Friends podcast, Emma & Claire dive deep into every Bachelor fan’s other favorite show: Lifetime’s “UnREAL” …

‘Bachelorette’ S12e6 With Julia Bush

June 28th, 2016

In this week's Here To Make Friends, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the sixth episode of Season 12. They discuss Chase's lack of facial expressions, Jordan and James Taylor's "entitled" conflict, and give a …

‘Bachelorette' S12e5 With Vella Lovell

June 21st, 2016

In this week's Here To Make Friends, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the fifth episode of Season 12 -- aka The End Of The Chad. We'll discuss Chad's exit and his enduring social media legacy, Alex's many …

'Bachelorette' S12e3&4 With Kevin Nguyen & Michael Garofola

June 8th, 2016

This week, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the third and fourth episodes of Season 12 -- also known as the "Chaddageddon." They discuss Ben Roethlisberger's questionable cameo, the dudes' awkward sex stories …

'Bachelorette' S12e2 With Sharleen Joynt, Sarah Gertrude Shapiro, & Carol Barbee

May 31st, 2016

This week, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the second episode of Season 12. We'll discuss the appeal of firefighters, why "The Bachelorette" is TV's greatest sport and Chad's hot garbage MRA tendencies with …

'Bachelorette' S12e1 With Andi Dorfman and Emily Warman

May 24th, 2016

Hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon are joined by Emily Warman to recap the best moments from JoJo's season premiere episode. And later, they're joined by former Bachelorette Andi Dorfman to talk about her new book It’s …

‘Bachelorette’ S12 Preview - Cast Bios with Max Godnick

May 17th, 2016

It feels like just yesterday that we were watching a shot of the bathroom door and listening to JoJo weep as Ben H. admitted that he also loved Lauren B. But JoJo is back to find love, and Here To Make Friends is ready …

'Bachelor' S20 Bonus With Ben Higgins and Lauren Bushnell

March 22nd, 2016

Ben Higgins and his fiancé, Lauren Bushnell spoke with co-hosts Emma and Claire IN-PERSON. This is not a drill. The beautiful couple discuss their …

'Bachelor' S20 Finale With Jenny Mollen

March 15th, 2016

Ben "Nice Guy" Higgins finds true love ... or at least a giant, ill-advised Neil Lane diamond ring. Actress, writer and "After Paradise" host, Jenny …

‘Bachelor’ S20e10 With The Bachelor Dudes and Ken Fuchs

March 8th, 2016

The Bachelor Dudes join hosts Emma and Claire to recap the one where the women tell all... or at least, some. Together, they discuss the show's gross race issues (#TeamJubilee4Lyfe), Olivia's attempted redemption and …

'Bachelor' S20e9 With Emily Maynard Johnson

March 1st, 2016

Emily Maynard Johnson, former Bachelorette and current author stops by to discuss her new book and share some behind-the-scenes Bachelor secrets. But first, co-hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap Episode 9 of "The …

'Bachelor' S20e8 With Andi Dorfman

February 23rd, 2016

Former Bachelorette, Andi Dorfman, joins co-hosts Emma and Claire to discuss Ben's day of potential fatherhood, how idyllic Ohio looks and the many …

‘Bachelor’ S20e7 With Nick Viall, JJ Lane and Chris Harrison

February 16th, 2016

Former Bachelorette and Bachelor In Paradise contestants and The Host With The Most join co-hosts Claire and Emma to discuss the Janner wedding, their pick for Bachelorette and so much more. Plus, Claire and Emma recap …

'Bachelor' S20e6 With Kristen Baldwin

February 9th, 2016

Kristen Baldwin joins Emma and Claire to discuss Caila's confusing attempt at confessing her love, the "aggressive" pigs, Leah's last-ditch villainy and Olivia's downfall.  

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'Bachelor' S20e5 With Erin Gloria Ryan

February 2nd, 2016

"The Bachelor" had some unlikely overlaps with the Iowa Caucuses during episode 5. Co-host Claire Fallon is joined by guest Erin Gloria Ryan, deputy editor at Vocativ, to discuss the aforementioned overlap, Ben's …

Bachelor’ S20e4 With Sharleen Joynt

January 26th, 2016

Former Bachelor contestant and opera singer, Sharleen Joynt joins hosts Emma and Claire to discuss Olivia's talent(s), the decoupling of The Twins, "sex panthers" and Ben's unflinching ability to manage the emotions of …

‘Bachelor’ S20e3 With Dr. Love

January 19th, 2016

Things got ugly on this week’s episode. Hosts Claire and Emma discuss all of the racially charged microaggressions Jubilee had to deal with, what constitutes a tragedy and the merits of "bad toes.” They’re also joined …

'Bachelor' S20e2 With Kate Dries

January 12th, 2016

Kate Dries, the Managing Editor of Jezebel joins hosts Emma and Claire. They discuss running through the halls of Ben’s high school, going to lunch …

‘Bachelor’ S20e1 With The Bachelor Dudes

January 5th, 2016

Does Ben have a distaste for brunettes? How come none of the ‘normal’ contestants were chosen? Will Lace continue on an alcohol-fueled downward …

'Bachelor' S20 Preview - Meet The Contestants

December 29th, 2015

Chiseled and "unlovable" Ben Higgins is about to start his journey, and there will be a whole lot of women along for the ride. We discuss what we …

'Bachelor' S20 Preview With Catherine Giudici And Sean Lowe

December 22nd, 2015

Catherine Giudici and Sean Lowe join hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to discuss their stint on Marriage Bootcamp. They also share their predictions for Ben Higgin's 'Bachelor' run and hint that they might already know …

See You In January

September 16th, 2015

Although hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon are suffering severe 'Bachelor In Paradise' withdrawals, they wanted to take a moment to thank you for listening, and share a quick interview with their favorite host, Chris …

'Paradise' S2e6 With JJ Lane

September 8th, 2015

In this finale episode, JJ Lane joins hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to recap all of the love and loss in the last two episodes of "Bachelor in …

'Paradise' S2e5 With The Bachelor Dudes And JJ Lane

September 1st, 2015

Hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap episodes 9 and 10 of "Bachelor in Paradise" Season 2. They discuss the end of the Joe-Samantha drama, the …

'Paradise' S2e4 With Kristen Baldwin

August 25th, 2015

Hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap episodes 7 and 8 of "Bachelor in Paradise" Season 2. They discuss JJ's American Hero send-off, Jade and Tanner sealing the BF/GF deal, Samantha's "puppet master" status and the …

'Paradise' S2e3 With Andi Dorfman

August 18th, 2015

Hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon discuss Joe and Samantha's botched plotting, Ashley S.'s no-bullshit reaction to her breakup with Dan and JJ's rise …

'Paradise’ S2e2 With Nick Viall

August 11th, 2015

Nick Viall, the polarizing runner-up of "The Bachelorette" seasons 10 and 11, joins hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to share updates on his life, …

'Paradise’ S2e1 With Maxwell Strachan

August 4th, 2015

The first 'Bachelor in Paradise' recap! Hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray discuss paradise's apparent crab infestation, all the Ashley I. tears, the …

Season Finale With The Bachelor Dudes

July 28th, 2015

So much rejection and romance to recap this week. The Bachelor Dudes join hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to discuss "The Bachelorette" season finale and "After The Final Rose" special.  

See for …

Episode #11: Men Tell All

July 21st, 2015

Or...very little. Hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon review Ian's mea culpa, swoon over Jared and Ben H.'s eternal sweetness, and discuss ABC's …

Episode #10 With David Flumenbaum

July 14th, 2015

Who's to blame for all of the fighting? Hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon discuss what issues Nick and Shawn need to overcome and who's beginning their bid for The Bachelor. David Flumenbaum, The Managaing Editor of …

Episode #9 With Leigh Blickley

July 7th, 2015

It's time to discuss the sex-fession and the exits of two contestants (one was much more graceful than the other). Hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray …

Episode #8 With Kaitlyn Bristowe

June 30th, 2015

Kaitlyn Bristowe, The Bachelorette herself, joins hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to discuss the double standards in Bachelor-land and how the show has made her more of a feminist. Emma and Claire are also joined by …

Episode #7 With UnREAL's Sarah Gertrude Shapiro

June 23rd, 2015

Sarah Gertrude Shapiro, the co-creator of Lifetime's UnREAL, joins hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to discuss what happens behind-the-scenes during the making of The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. Emma and Claire also …

Episode #6 With Leslie A. Hughes

June 16th, 2015

Former Bachelor contestant, Leslie A. Hughes joins hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to discuss the episode where Ian goes down in flames and two men confess their love for Kaitlyn. They also discuss what it's like to …

Episode #5: The Male Perspective

June 9th, 2015

Time to debrief on The Bachelorette sex hypotheses, the return of Nick V, the return of Ashley “ONION” S, and the dudes’ attempt to show off their musical skills, or lack thereof -- from rap to show tunes. Kevin Nguyen, …

Episode #4 With Ben Flajnik

June 2nd, 2015

Ben Flajnik, former Bachelor and Bachelorette contestant joins Claire and Emma to discuss life after the show, and how he found love -- on Tinder. Emily Warman, "Bachelorette" recapper for PAPER Magazine also joins the …

Episode #3 With Jackie Oshry

May 26th, 2015

Jackie Oshry (@JackieOProblems) Joins hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon to discuss the third episode of The Bachelorette. Together, they identify what's wrong with JJ, why Joe makes Kaitlyn weak in the knees and make …

Episode #2

May 20th, 2015

Britt, no matter how right it felt, you are not The Bachelorette. On this episode, hosts Emma Gray and Claire Fallon discuss Kaitlyn’s questionable taste in men and break down the WTF season highlights. They'll also …

Episode #1 With Jenny Mollen

May 19th, 2015

Actress, author and prolific Bachelorette-tweeter, Jenny Mollen join hosts Emma and Claire to recap the first episode of Season 11. Emma and Claire …

The Series Preview

May 14th, 2015

Jay K. Overbye, one of the two bachelors who starred in Season 6 of The Bachelor, joins Emma and Claire to weigh in on what Bachelorettes Britt Nilsson and Kaitlyn Bristowe will experience this season. Emma and Claire …
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