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The Leaders and Legends podcast features conversations with fascinating and dynamic men and women whose impact has shaped our knowledge, our world, and us. Join us as we discuss their imprint on our history. The program is hosted by Robert Vane who is principal of Veteran Strategies, Inc., an-Indian… read more

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Ambassador Ken Adelman, Author of “Reagan at Reykjavik: Forty-Eight Hours that Ended the Cold War”

March 13th, 2023

1:05:03

Ambassador Ken Adelman is a legend in the arms control community. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we interview Amb. Adelman about his …

Jake Oakman, Executive Director of White River State Park

March 6th, 2023

1:03:40

Jake Oakman is the executive director of the beautiful White River State Park and one of the most respected communications gurus in the world. We …

Kate Andersen Brower On Her Book “Elizabeth Taylor: the Grit and Glamour of an Icon”

February 27th, 2023

1:12:06

 Elizabeth Taylor is on the Mount Rushmore of the entertainment industry’s megastars. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we interview …

Historian Jeff Shesol on His Book “Mercury Rising: John Glenn, JFK, and the New Battleground of the Cold War”

February 20th, 2023

1:11:40

How important was John F. Kennedy to the launch of America’s space program and how did John Glenn get to be its first hero? On the week’s “Leaders …

Dave Hyde, Co-Author of “Swagger” with Coach Jimmy Johnson

February 13th, 2023

1:13:49

Hall of Famer Jimmy Johnson is one of the most successful football coaches in history. Award-winning Florida sports columnist Dave Hyde recently …

Al Hubbard, Businessman and Entrepreneur

February 6th, 2023

1:12:10

For our 200th podcast interview, “Leaders and Legends” presents a conversation with businessman and entrepreneur Al Hubbard. A philanthropist who served in both Bush Administrations, Al is also one of Indiana’s leading …

Sarah Gristwood, Author of “Elizabeth: The Queen and the Crown”

January 30th, 2023

1:12:57

Sarah Gristwood is one of the world’s best-selling historians, and she is our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Sarah discusses her writings and research, how female historians are bringing a fresh …

Scott Sander, Host of WISH-TV’s “Daybreak.”

January 23rd, 2023

1:01:34

Scott Sander is one of the most respected & genuine of all Hoosier journalists, and he is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss his career, his most memorable stories, who has the …

Martin Dugard, Author of “Taking Berlin: The Bloody Race to Defeat the Third Reich” 

January 16th, 2023

57:58

The end of World War II in Europe is one of the most fascinating topics in military and political history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” …

Todd Huston, Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives  

January 9th, 2023

57:34

Representative Todd Huston is the Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives and this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Co-host …

United States Senator Todd Young 

January 2nd, 2023

1:11:48

Just reelected to the United States Senate (and winning 89 of Indiana’s 92 counties), Todd Young represents Hoosiers with purpose, faith, and distinction. Senator Young was a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast …

Former Purdue Coach Gene Keady 

December 26th, 2022

1:15:58

In honor of Purdue University’s standing as the number one ranked men’s college basketball team in the country, we are reposting our fun and terrific …

Toby McClamroch and John Dillon 

December 19th, 2022

1:02:10

Toby McClamroch and John Dillon personify what it means to be loyal and close friends—and politics be damned. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” …

Historian Taylor Downing on His Book “1942: Winston Churchill and Britain’s Darkest Hour.” 

December 12th, 2022

1:07:18


Was 1942 the decisive year of World War II? Historian Taylor Downing argues that it is, and he is this week’s guest on the Leaders and Legends podcast. Taylor is the author of “1942: Winston Churchill and Britain’s …

Will Inboden, Author of “Peacemaker: Ronald Reagan, the Cold War, and the World on the Brink” 

December 5th, 2022

58:05


Dr Will Inboden is author of the brilliant new book “Peacemaker: Ronald Reagan, the Cold War, and the World on the Brink” and he is also our guest on …

Levi Roach, Author of "Empires of the Normans” 

November 28th, 2022

1:10:44

Is the history of the Normans more than just the feats of William the Conqueror in 1066? Yes, says Professor Levi Roach. In this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we discuss Dr Roach’s new book "Empires of the …

Remembering Rex Early 

November 21st, 2022

48:57


He was a man as unique as his name: Rexford Carlisle Early. We lost Rex, a former Marine, on Veterans Day, and in tribute the “Leaders and Legends” podcast convened three of his closest friends to talk about Rex’s life, …

Craig Shirley, Biographer of Ronald Reagan

November 14th, 2022

1:10:51

Craig Shirley is a prolific and award-winning historian who has chronicled the rise and legacy of Ronald Reagan, the beginning and end of World War …

Gareth Russell, Author of “Do Let’s Have Another Drink: the Dry Wit and Fizzy Life of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother”

November 7th, 2022

47:42

Gareth Russell is a best-selling author and historian who was kind enough to join the “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week to discuss his …

Clint Hill, Secret Service Agent For Jackie Kennedy

October 31st, 2022

1:27:43

A few years ago, we posted an interview with President John F. Kennedy Secret Service Agent Clint Hill and his co-author Lisa McCubbin Hill; just this month Agent Hill has released a new book titled “My Travels with …

Dr Nicola Tallis, Author of Uncrowned Queen: The Life of Margaret Beaufort, Mother of the Tudors

October 24th, 2022

1:10:32

Dr Nicola Tallis is the author of several books on British history, and she is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss her …

Dwight Chapin, Author of “The President’s Man: The Memoirs of Nixon’s Trusted Aide”.

October 17th, 2022

1:31:54

Dwight Chapin was one of President Richard Nixon’s closest aides both during his political comeback in the late 1960s and while he was president. In …

John Wechsler, CEO of Spokenote

October 10th, 2022

51:12

John Wechsler is one of Indiana’s most impactful and respected entrepreneurs—and he is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. …

Larry Csonka, Super Bowl VIII MVP - Part Two

October 3rd, 2022

1:03:06

Larry Csonka, Super Bowl VIII MVP - Part Two 


In part two of our “Leaders and Legends” podcast interview with NFL Hall of Famer and Super Bowl VIII MVP Larry Csonka, we discuss why he decided to write his book “Head On: …

Larry Csonka, Super Bowl VIII MVP - Part One

September 26th, 2022

55:24


Larry Csonka is one of the greatest players in NFL history. He is a two-time Super Bowl champion, was named MVP of Super Bowl VIII, and is author of “Head On: A Memoir".  In part one of our “Leaders and Legends” podcast …

“Queen Elizabeth II: An Oral History” Authors Deborah Hart Strober and Gerald Strober,

September 19th, 2022

1:13:33

The passing of Queen Elizabeth II after reigning for more than 70 years is dominating the media around the globe and tugging at the heart strings of millions of people worldwide. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” …

John Gregg, Former Indiana Speaker of the House

September 12th, 2022

1:13:42

Former Indiana Speaker of the House and two-time gubernatorial candidate John Gregg is one of the most well-liked, humorous, and accomplished public servants in modern Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and …

Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library’s Chris Lafave and Kip Tew

August 29th, 2022

1:07:41

Kurt Vonnegut is one of the most brilliant and famous Hoosier writers in our state’s history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast our conversation is with Chris Lafave, curator of the Indy-based Kurt Vonnegut …

Historian Jeff Shesol, Author of “Mutual Contempt: Lyndon Johnson, Robert Kennedy and the Feud that Defined a Decade.”

August 22nd, 2022

55:11

The clash between President Lyndon Johnson and Senator Robert F. Kennedy is the defining political relationship of the 1960s. On this week’s “Leaders …

Janet Allen, Artistic Director and Co-CEO of the Indiana Repertory Theater

August 12th, 2022

45:25

Earlier this year the wonderful and delightful Janet Allen, Artistic Director and Co-CEO of the Indiana Repertory Theater, announced her retirement …

Jeffrey Frank, Author of “The Trials of Harry S. Truman: The Extraordinary Presidency of an Ordinary Man, 1945-1953”

August 8th, 2022

1:13:23

Probably only Ulysses S. Grant has had a more beneficial and recent historical reappraisal than our 33rd president Harry Truman; on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast historian and journalist Jeffrey Frank comes …

James Danko, President of Butler

August 1st, 2022

1:02:53

In 2011, James Danko became the 21st president of Butler University. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with President Danko about his career, the amazing opportunity to lead one of state’s most …

Dr Tracy Borman, Author of “Crown & Sceptre: 1000 Years of Kings and Queens”

July 25th, 2022

1:19:10

Dr Tracy Borman is one of the world’s best-selling and most-quoted historians of British history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Dr Borman joins us from the United Kingdom to discuss her brilliant and …

Mark K. Updegrove, Author of “Incomparable Grace: JFK in the Presidency”

July 18th, 2022

1:08:35

Mark K. Updegrove is a Presidential Historian for ABC News and president and CEO of the LBJ Foundation. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast; Mark and I discuss his brilliant new book …

Pamela Whitten, President of Indiana University

July 11th, 2022

55:09


Pamela Whitten is the 19th president of Indiana University and the first female to serve in this prestigious position. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, President Whitten discusses her career and her vision …

Historian Stephen Moore on General George S. Patton

July 4th, 2022

1:08:45


As we celebrate our Fourth of July holiday, the “Leaders and Legends” podcast present a discussion with the author of a terrific book on General …

Niki Kelly, Editor-in-Chief of The Capital Chronicle

June 27th, 2022

1:05:08


Niki Kelly is one of the most respected journalists in our state. She was recently announced as the editor-in-chief of “The Capital Chronicle”—the Indiana bureau of the States Newsroom. Our friend Jim Shella joins us on …

Rafael Sanchez, WRTV 6 Journalist

June 20th, 2022

1:10:52


Rafael Sanchez is one of our state’s best-known television journalists. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss his career, some of the biggest stories he’s covered, and why a kid …

YouTubers Asia and BJ

June 13th, 2022

1:01:58


"Reaction videos” are all over YouTube and for good reason—they are wonderful, insightful, and a needed reminder that music unites us all. On this …

Catherine Ostler, Author of “The Duchess Countess”

June 6th, 2022

50:27

As the saying goes, “well-behaved women rarely make history” and the subject of this week’s podcast, Elizabeth Chudleigh certainly fits the description. Catherine Ostler, author of “The Duchess Countess”, is this week’s …

Remembering Richard Hall

May 23rd, 2022

58:08


One of my favorite interviews since starting the “Leaders and Legends” podcast featured Richard Hall; a kidnap victim of Tony Kiritsis in 1977, Hall detailed not only that harrowing experience, but also his life after …

Abdul-Hakim Shabazz, Journalist

May 16th, 2022

1:16:00

Abdul-Hakim Shabazz is a host unto himself. Journalist, commentator, master of ceremonies, and a one-man media empire, Abdul joins us on the “Leaders …

Andrew Jackson O’Shaughnessy, Author of “The Men Who Lost America”

May 9th, 2022

1:18:35

Why did Great Britain lose the American Revolutionary War? Was it poor leadership or just a lack thereof? Andrew Jackson O’Shaughnessy is this week’s …

Remembering Former Marion County Sheriff Frank Anderson

May 2nd, 2022

1:01:55

Former Marion County Sheriff Frank Anderson passed away last week. Elected to the office twice, his eight years as sheriff served as the culmination …

Brian Bosma, Former Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives

April 25th, 2022

59:45

Brian Bosma served as speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives for more years than anyone in our state’s history. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk with Brian about his …

Milt Thompson, Indianapolis Entrepreneur, Civic Leader, and Philanthropist

April 18th, 2022

1:10:48

Milt Thompson is simply in a class by himself—entrepreneur, civic leader, philanthropist, the list goes on. Milt is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk about his love of baseball, how …

David Benner, Former Director of Media Relations for the Indiana Pacers

April 11th, 2022

1:16:24

The amazing career of David Benner, who is retiring after 28 years as director of media relations for the Indiana Pacers, is getting some …

Derek Schultz, Sports Commentator

April 4th, 2022

1:25:45

Derek Schultz’s sports commentary is “must-hear” radio in the Hoosier State. Derek is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Please …

John Ferling, Historian and Author of “Winning Independence”

March 28th, 2022

1:18:08

Professor John Ferling is one of the world’s leading authorities on the American Revolution and has appeared on the History Channel, PBS, C-SPAN, and …

Roger Harvey, Former TV Journalist

March 21st, 2022

1:14:49

Roger Harvey is one of the best public relations professionals I’ve ever met—but he also had an award-winning career as a television journalist before joining Bose Public Affairs. Roger is this week’s guest on the …

Patty Martin, CEO of BioCrossroads

March 14th, 2022

1:09:32

Patty Martin is one of our state’s most accomplished and respected leaders. She is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Patty talks about being CEO of BioCrossroads, her time as an executive at …

Katja Hoyer, Author of “Blood and Iron: The Rise and Fall of the German Empire”

March 7th, 2022

1:24:11

Katja Hoyer’s new book, “Blood and Iron: The Rise and Fall of the German Empire”, was published in 2021 to incredibly positive reviews. Her book is just terrific. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Katja …

Dan Coats, former Indiana Senator and Director of National Intelligence on Ukraine

March 1st, 2022

1:06:10

In the first of a two-part podcast interview, former Indiana Senator and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats dissects the latest news from the war in Ukraine, the world’s response to the Russian invasion, and …

Gregg Doyel, Sports Columnist for The Indianapolis Star

February 21st, 2022

1:05:25

Gregg Doyel is the sports columnist for The Indianapolis Star and this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Just like with his writing, …

Historian Willard Sterne Randall on his book “The Founders Fortunes: How Money Shaped the Birth of America”

February 14th, 2022

1:06:11

How did the American Revolution affect the financial prospect of men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson?  In his latest book “The Founders …

John Thompson, Chairman of the Indiana Chamber of Commerce

February 7th, 2022

1:06:44

John Thompson is one of our state’s leading entrepreneurs and respected civic leaders. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” …

Brad Tolinski, Author of “Light and Shade: Conversations with Jimmy Page.”

January 31st, 2022

1:25:08

If you love Led Zeppelin, then I hope you will also love this week’s podcast with author Brad Tolinski—he comes on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast …

Chris Jensen, Mayor of Noblesville

January 24th, 2022

1:05:26

In 2019 proud Miller Chris Jensen was elected mayor of Noblesville. His resume also includes working for Lt. Gov. Becky Skillman and serving as the executive director of the 2016 Indiana Bicentennial Commission.  Mayor …

Ann Murtlow, President and CEO at United Way of Central Indiana

January 17th, 2022

1:01:20

Ann Murtlow’s leadership has made a significant difference for so many people around our state and beyond. In her first in-depth interview since announcing her retirement as President and CEO at United Way of Central …

Dana Hunsinger Benbow, Sports Reporter for The Indianapolis Star

January 10th, 2022

1:10:26

Dana Hunsinger Benbow is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Dana is a sports reporter for The Indianapolis Star who writes …

George Will, Columnist for the Washington Post

January 3rd, 2022

40:56

George Will is one of the most respected commentators and famous baseball fans in the United States—and he’s also 2022’s first guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talked with Mr. Will about baseball, history, …

Our 2021 Retrospective with Robert Vane and Chris Spangle

December 27th, 2021

1:12:34

While 2021 has had its share of disappointing moments, we at the “Leaders and Legends” podcast were honored to have some amazing guests come on to discuss their careers, research, achievements, and greatest influences. …

Brad Chambers, Indiana’s Secretary of Commerce

December 20th, 2021

1:05:05

Brad Chambers is Indiana’s Secretary of Commerce, the CEO of the Indiana Economic Development Corporation, and one of our state’s most successful …

Dr. Neil Lanctot, Author of “The Approaching Storm: Roosevelt, Wilson, Addams and Their Clash Over America’s Future”

December 13th, 2021

1:17:51

Dr. Neil Lanctot is the author of a new book on the United States' entry into World War I, and he’s also our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. “The Approaching Storm: Roosevelt, Wilson, Addams and …

Evan Bayh, Former Governor and Senator of Indiana

December 6th, 2021

1:30:22

Evan Bayh is one of only two Hoosiers to win statewide elective office at least five times. He was a governor, a United States Senator, and now we’re happy to say he’s our guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We …

Willard Sterne Randall on the Founding Fathers

November 29th, 2021

1:15:11

Willard Sterne Randall is one of America’s most eminent historians of the Colonial and Revolutionary Era. He makes the first of two appearances on …

Brad Tolinski, Author of “Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen”

November 22nd, 2021

1:18:36

Former Guitar World magazine editor-in-chief Brad Tolinski is one of the world’s most famous and respected music journalists. He appears on this …

Becky Skillman, Former Lt. Governor of Indiana

November 15th, 2021

1:12:55

Becky Skillman served Hoosiers with distinction as their 49th lieutenant governor—but her career was remarkable long before she joined Mitch Daniels’ ticket in 2004. She held several elected offices and was in the room …

Professor Allen Guelzo on Robert E. Lee

November 8th, 2021

1:25:05

Professor Allen Guelzo of Princeton University is one of our country’s pre-eminent scholars of the American Civil War. On this week’s “Leaders and …

Dr. Katie Jenner, Indiana’s first Secretary of Education

November 1st, 2021

59:58

Dr. Katie Jenner is Indiana’s first Secretary of Education and this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast with our co-host, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Indiana and former principal Danielle Shockey. We …

Historian Michael Dobbs, Author of “One Minute to Midnight”

October 25th, 2021

1:04:55

In October 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union stood on the brink of mutual nuclear annihilation. Historian Michael Dobbs returns to the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his book “One Minute to …

Murray Clark and Kip Tew, Former State Chairs of the Republican and Democratic Parties of Indiana (Respectively)

October 18th, 2021

1:10:16

The list of my political friends who have fought the good fight is a long one for sure. Today on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast we chat with my …

David Benner, Director of Media Relations for the Indiana Pacers

October 4th, 2021

1:16:24

David Benner is the director of Media Relations for the Indiana Pacers who just announced he’s retiring at the end of the coming NBA season. For 27 years, David has set a sterling example of what professional sports …

Dr Suzannah Lipscomb, Host of “Not Just the Tudors”

September 27th, 2021

1:09:46

Dr. Suzannah Lipscomb is one of the world’s most popular British historians with a social media following of more than 200,000 people. She received …

Claudia Cummings, President and CEO of the Indiana Philanthropy Alliance

September 20th, 2021

53:44

Claudia Cummings’ career is a model of public sector and philanthropic service.  Claudia joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss some of the things she’s learned along the way, what it’s like to be a …

Paul Page, Author of “Hello, I’m Paul Page and it’s Race Day in Indianapolis”

September 13th, 2021

1:24:44

Paul Page is one of Indianapolis’ most endearing and enduring sports journalists. His career as the “Voice of the Indianapolis 500” spanned decades, …

Dr. Craig Symonds, American Naval and Military History

September 6th, 2021

1:14:15

Dr. Craig Symonds is a brilliant and best-selling historian of American naval and military history. He’s also written about D-Day and the Battle of Gettysburg among other works. Professor Symonds joins me on the …

Remembering Congresswoman Julia Carson

August 30th, 2021

1:05:29

Congresswoman Julia Carson broke down barriers while building up the people and opportunities in her district. Her grandson, Congressman Andre …

Cathy Langham, Owner and President of Langham Logistics, Inc.

August 23rd, 2021

57:43

Cathy Langham is one of the most respected and successful entrepreneurs in all of Indiana, and she’s also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and …

Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick

August 16th, 2021

57:19

Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick is one of the most accomplished and respected civic leaders in the history of modern Indianapolis (and …

Michael Dobbs, Author of “King Richard: Nixon and Watergate: An American Tragedy”

August 9th, 2021

1:05:22

It was 47 years ago today that embattled Richard Nixon resigned the presidency due to the scandals collectively known as Watergate. In Michael Dobbs’ …

Al Unser, Jr., Two-Time Winner of the Indy 500

August 2nd, 2021

1:16:04

Al Unser, Jr. is not only a two-time champion of the Indianapolis 500, a scion of one of racing’s greatest families, and one of the most popular …

Historian Fergus Bordewich on His Book “Congress At War”

July 26th, 2021

1:14:26

Abraham Lincoln gets most of the attention given for political and governmental leadership during the American Civil War and deservedly so. The role …

Gerry Dick, Host of “Inside Indiana Business”

July 19th, 2021

1:07:08

Gerry Dick’s career on Indiana television spans decades. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with the host of “Inside Indiana Business” about his career in journalism, some of his favorite interview …

Fred Glass, Former Vice President and Director of Athletics at Indiana University

July 12th, 2021

1:09:59

Fred Glass is one of the most respected civic leaders in Modern Indianapolis. He also served as a Vice President and athletic director at his alma …

Ted Widmer, Author of Lincoln on the Verge

July 5th, 2021

1:24:39

Abraham Lincoln’s journey to Washington, D.C. to take the oath of office was the most dangerous in history. In his book “Lincoln on the Verge”, …

Frank Anderson, Former Marion County Sheriff and United States Marshal

June 28th, 2021

1:01:55

Frank Anderson has one of the most impressive careers in public service that I’ve ever encountered. The former Marion County sheriff and United States Marshal joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast for a fun and …

Michael Huber, CEO of the Greater Indianapolis Chamber of Commerce

June 21st, 2021

1:11:12

Our friend Michael Huber had me on his “Michael Loves Indy” podcast a little while ago and this week we return the favor; Michael is the president …

Paul Lushin, Founder and CEO of Lushin, Inc

June 14th, 2021

1:04:56

Paul Lushin has had one of the most varied and interesting entrepreneurial careers I’ve ever encountered. As founder and CEO of Lushin, Inc, Paul has …

Andrew Nagorski, Author of “1941: The Year Germany Lost the War”

June 7th, 2021

1:10:06

When did Germany lose World War II? According to journalist and historian Andrew Nagorski, Hitler’s fate was sealed near the very beginning of the conflict. Andrew joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to …

Brigadier General Stewart Goodwin, Executive Director of the Indiana War Memorials

May 31st, 2021

1:07:23

On Memorial Day weekend, the “Leaders and Legends” podcast features a conversation with Brigadier General Stewart Goodwin. The general spent 37 years in the military, but is probably best known as the smiling face that …

Historian Peter Cozzens on His Book “Tecumseh and the Prophet”

May 24th, 2021

1:22:58

Historian Peter Cozzens has written some of the most popular and well-received books on American History—and he’s our guest on this week’s “Leaders …

Malcolm Moran, Journalist

May 17th, 2021

1:27:43

Malcolm Moran is one of the most honored sports journalists in America. He has covered nearly 40 Final Fours, 11 Super Bowls, 16 World Series, and …

Indianapolis Motor Speedway President Doug Boles

May 10th, 2021

1:08:19

Indianapolis Motor Speedway President Doug Boles is one of the most respected, visionary, and brilliant leaders in the Hoosier State and beyond. On …

Robin Miller, Journalist

May 3rd, 2021

1:13:30

Robin Miller is a Hall of Famer in more ways than one—sportswriter, story teller, and champion of the Workingman’s Friend. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, fellow Hall of Fame Bill Benner joins me for a …

Professor Stephen Fritz On His Book “The First Soldier: Hitler as Military Leader”

April 26th, 2021

1:16:03

Was Adolf Hitler’s military leadership truly the cause of Nazi Germany’s defeat in World War II? On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we …

Remember Governor Frank O’Bannon

April 19th, 2021

1:06:09

Frank O’Bannon is one of the most successful political figures in Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we are joined by …

Teresa Lubbers, Indiana’s Commissioner of Higher Education

April 12th, 2021

1:08:42

Teresa Lubbers is a former state senator and is currently Indiana’s Commissioner of Higher Education. She worked for Senator Richard Lugar and is a proud Eastsider by birth (she graduated from Warren Central). She joins …

Mitch Daniels, Part 2

April 7th, 2021

1:15:51

Governor Mitch Daniels’s administration is one of the most consequential in the history of Indiana. We celebrate his 72nd birthday by posting a new interview—this one covers his seminal 2004 campaign and his eight years …

Mitch Daniels, Part 1

April 5th, 2021

59:39

It was back in August 2019 that the “Leaders and Legends” podcast posted our conversation with Purdue University President Mitch Daniels; we are reposting it today because on April 7th (Mitch’s 72nd birthday), we will …

Barry Collier, Butler Athletic Director

March 29th, 2021

1:06:28

Butler athletic director Barry Collier knows a thing or two about the NCAA tournament and winning basketball games. On this week’s “Leaders and …

Professor Bruce Levine on Thaddeus Stevens

March 22nd, 2021

1:08:01

Representative Thaddeus Stevens—famously portrayed by Tommy Lee Jones in the movie “Lincoln”—was one of the first and most fiery Republican …

Vic Ryckaert, Journalist

March 15th, 2021

1:15:45

Vic Ryckaert is a former Marine, one of the best journalists with whom I’ve ever worked, and is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk with Vic about what made him join the military, some of the …

Remembering Benjamin Harrison, The 23rd President of the United States

March 8th, 2021

1:15:49

Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd president of the United States and a proud resident of Indianapolis. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we …

Sarah Taylor, Executive Director of the Hoosier Lottery

March 1st, 2021

1:02:43

Sarah Taylor is one of the most well-liked and respected public officials in modern Indianapolis history. She is also our guest on this week’s …

David O. Stewart on “George Washington: The Political Rise of America's Founding Father”

February 22nd, 2021

1:18:44

Today is George Washington’s 289th birthday and the Leaders and Legends podcast is celebrating it by interviewing the Father of Our Country’s latest biographer. David O. Stewart’s account focuses on Washington’s …

Indiana Fever president and COO Allison Barber

February 15th, 2021

1:02:18

Indiana Fever president and COO Allison Barber is one of our state's most amazing success stories. Her resume is so incredible, I am not even sure we covered all of it in our interview. Allison visited the “Leaders and …

Remembering Former Governor Robert Orr

February 8th, 2021

1:10:10

Bob Orr was more than a governor. He was a graduate of Yale, a veteran of World War II, and a Hoosier who knew how to lead. Our “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week features a conversation about the life and times of …

Marlin Jackson, Former Colt, on his Fight for Life Foundation

February 1st, 2021

1:12:34

Marlin Jackson made one of the most famous plays in Indianapolis Colts history when he intercepted Tom Brady in the 2006 AFC Championship Game. He …

Jon Wertheim, Executive Editor of Sports Illustrated

January 25th, 2021

1:12:50

Jon Wertheim is the executive editor of Sports Illustrated and one very proud Hoosier. Born in Bloomington and educated at Yale and the University of Pennsylvania, Jon’s writing has led him to become the world’s leading …

Marianne Glick, Philanthropist

January 18th, 2021

49:55

Marianne Glick is a philanthropist, a painter, a proud Butler Bulldog, and a phenomenal interview. She joins Girl Scouts of Central Indiana CEO …

Robert Vane and Chris Spangle on Leaders and Legends Year Two

January 11th, 2021

1:02:54

In our second annual podcast retrospective, Chris Spangle and I discuss the year that was 2020. We share some of our favorite moments, guests’ stories, and preview what’s coming in 2021. We also detail what our podcast …

Leslie Bailey and Amanda Kingsbury of Indy Maven

January 4th, 2021

1:03:51

Amanda Kingsbury and Leslie Bailey are award-winning journalists who are the driving force behind “Indy Maven”—a web site designed to engage in …

Clint Hill, Former Kennedy Secret Service Agent

December 28th, 2020

1:27:43

Clint Hill is forever enshrined in our memories as the Secret Service Agent who climbed about the Kennedy limousine in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The “Leaders and Legends” podcast is honored to have him (and Lisa …

Elaine Bedel, CEO of the Indiana Destination Development Corporation

December 21st, 2020

1:06:11

Elaine Bedel is a pioneer, an entrepreneur, an author, and a nationally-recognized expert in the world of finance. She’s been the president of the Indiana Economic Development Corporation and is now the CEO of the …

Indiana University Professor James H. Madison

December 14th, 2020

1:12:16

Indiana University Professor James H. Madison is one of our state’s preeminent historians. Designated a “Living Legend” by the Indiana Historical Society, Jim’s latest book “The Ku Klux Klan in the Heartland” is …

Jim Brainard, Mayor of Carmel

December 7th, 2020

1:10:52

Jim Brainard’s leadership has transformed Carmel into a city known around the world for its arts, culture, and livability. Mayor Brainard joins us on …

Angela Braly, Co-Founder of The Policy Circle and Former Anthem CEO

November 30th, 2020

1:01:09

Angela Braly served as president and chief executive officer of WellPoint (now Anthem). She comes on the 'Leaders and Legends' podcast to discuss her career, growing up in Texas, and the importance of female executives …

Chris Zorich, All-American Football Player at Notre Dame

November 23rd, 2020

1:37:58

Chris Zorich was an All-American at Notre Dame, a member of its 1988 National Championship team, and was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame …

Historian Harold Holzer on Abraham Lincoln

November 16th, 2020

1:01:28

November 19th is the 157th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s delivery of the Gettysburg Address; on this week’s Leaders and Legends podcast …

Veterans Day - The Marion County Veterans Court

November 9th, 2020

49:24

Veterans Day is one of the most special holidays of the year. On this week?s Leaders and Legends podcast, we are joined by Judge David Certo, …

Pete Ward, Chief Operating Officer for the Indianapolis Colts

November 2nd, 2020

1:05:48

Pete Ward began his front office football career as an intern with the Baltimore Colts in the early 1980s. He is now the Chief Operating Officer for …

Edward Larson, Author of Summer for the Gods

October 26th, 2020

1:25:08

Professor Edward Larson is a best-selling historian who received the 1998 Pulitzer Prize in History for his book on the Scopes Monkey Trial. Dr. …

Jim Voyles

October 19th, 2020

1:13:59

Jim Voyles is simply one of the most respected, most successful attorneys in the United States. He comes on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to talk …

Harold Holzer , Historian and Author of “The Presidents vs. The Press."

October 12th, 2020

1:08:18

Harold Holzer is one of the foremost Lincoln scholars in the world—so much so that he served as the historical advisor to the movie “Lincoln.” Harold …

Craig Fehrman on “Authors in Chief: the Untold Story of Our Presidents and the Books They Wrote”

October 5th, 2020

1:19:19

Author and historian and Hoosier Craig Fehrman is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. His book, “Authors in Chief: the Untold …

Republican Lou Gerig and Democrat Bill Moreau on “One More Voice”

September 28th, 2020

1:09:51

Republican Lou Gerig and Democrat Bill Moreau are long-time friend whose paths have crossed many time during the years. They visited us on the …

David and Jeanne Heidler, Authors of The Rise of Andrew Jackson: Myth, Manipulation, and the Making of Modern Politics

September 21st, 2020

1:19:58

Historians (and husband and wife) David and Jeanne Heidler have written terrific books on George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, and other topics of American history. They join the “Leaders and Legends” podcast …

Reggie Brooks, Notre Dame Football Great

September 14th, 2020

1:24:49

Reggie Brooks is one of the greatest players in the history of Notre Dame football. He was an All-American and made critical, game-changing plays in some of the Irish’s most memorable games. He joins the “Leaders and …

A Look Into Eric Holcomb’s 106 - day Campaign for Governor in 2016

September 7th, 2020

1:22:29

Eric Holcomb’s victorious 106-day campaign for governor in 2016 is without precedent in Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” …

Julie Goodman, Arts Council of Indianapolis CEO

August 31st, 2020

56:58

Julie Goodman is the president and CEO of the Arts Council of Indianapolis. Julie joins the podcast to talk about her career, her love of Indy, and …

Johnny Rutherford, Three-Time Winner of the Indianapolis 500

August 24th, 2020

1:26:49

Johnny Rutherford is one of the most successful and popular drivers in the history of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. A champion of the Indianapolis …

Author Greg Renoff on Ted Templeman, Music Producer to Van Halen and the Doobie Brothers

August 17th, 2020

1:38:51

Best-selling music author Dr Greg Renoff returns to the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his biography of famed music producer Ted Templeman (Van Halen, Van Morrison, and the Doobie Brothers among many others). …

Kate Andersen Brower on her book “Team of Five: the Presidents Club in the Age of Trump”

August 10th, 2020

1:12:21

Kate Andersen Brower is a journalist, an author, and now a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast.  Her books include the #1 New York Times bestseller The Residence (about the White House) while her latest book is: …

Remembering Former Governor Joe Kernan

August 3rd, 2020

1:21:22

Joe Kernan was Irish before he was a naval officer, a prisoner of war before he was mayor, humble before he was governor, and beloved eternally by those who knew him. We lost the governor last week and extend our …

Lynn Vincent and Sara Vladic on the USS Indianapolis Disaster

July 27th, 2020

1:32:01

On July 30, 1945, the USS Indianapolis was sunk in what remains the biggest sea disaster in U.S. naval history. The “Leaders and Legends” podcast …

76: Mark Boyle, Radio Voice of the Indiana Pacers

July 20th, 2020

1:29:20

Mark Boyle is the brilliant and beloved radio voice of our Indiana Pacers. He joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to talk about his career, …

75: Ted Boehm, Former Justice on the Indiana Supreme Court

July 13th, 2020

1:19:29

When it comes to having a varied and impactful career, there are few people in Ted Boehm’s league. He clerked for Chief Justice Earl Warren, helped …

74: Brooks Simpson, Historian and Author of Ulysses S. Grant: Triumph over Adversity

July 5th, 2020

1:55:18

Brooks Simpson is one of the world’s leading authorities on the life, times, and career of Ulysses S. Grant. Professor Simpson was kind enough to come on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss a man whom I …

73: Jake Query of the IMS Radio Network

June 29th, 2020

1:25:05

Jake Query is our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. He’s been a fixture on the Indianapolis media and sports scene for years, and …

72: Seth Morales, President of the Morales Group

June 22nd, 2020

1:08:43

Our “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week features Seth Morales—who probably knows more people than anyone I’ve ever met. He played in the Rose Bowl while at Purdue, earned his MBA from Notre Dame, and is President of …

71: Mike Lopresti, Hall of Fame Sports Journalist

June 15th, 2020

1:21:05

Journalist and Hall of Famer Mike Lopresti is one of the most-honored sportswriters in the United States. Mike’s career has had him cover 32 World Series, 31 Super Bowls, 34 NCAA Men’s Basketball Final Fours, as well as …

70: Tony Mason, President and CEO of the Indianapolis Urban League

June 10th, 2020

1:05:09

Tony Mason is the president and CEO of the Indianapolis Urban League. Tony’s resume includes stints at the Super Bowl Committee, the Circle City …

69: Ray Tolbert, A Captain on IU Basketball's 1981 National Championship Team

June 1st, 2020

1:21:44

Ray Tolbert was a captain on IU’s 1981 national championship team. He was also Indiana Mr. Basketball in 1977, a gold medal winner in the 1979 Pan-Am …

68: Donald Davidson, Indianapolis Motor Speedway Historian

May 25th, 2020

1:15:07

We all are missing the Indianapolis 500 this weekend, but the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast is bringing you the next best thing—a conversation with …

67: Fahad Nazer, Spokesperson for the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington, D.C.

May 21st, 2020

44:09

When you get a chance to chat with the spokesperson for the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington, D.C., you take it. Fahad Nazer joined the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast to talk about his background, the importance of …

66: Dr. David Edmonds, author of Bobby Fischer Goes to War

May 18th, 2020

57:46

Okay, so this podcast is really just for me and other chess nerds—but I hope you like it. In 1972, Bobby Fischer wrested the world chess championship from the Commie Soviet Union. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” …

65: Dave Lindquist, Entertainment Reporter for the Indianapolis Star

May 11th, 2020

1:13:41

One of the two men in our photo is David Lindquist. A veteran journalist, Dave has written about music and pop culture for The Indianapolis Star …

64: Indiana's Senior United States Senator Todd Young

May 4th, 2020

1:11:48

Todd Young is the senior United States Senator from Indiana. He’s also a graduate of the Naval Academy, a former Marine officer, and as down-to-earth elected official as you will ever meet. Senator Young spent an hour …

63: Marc Allan on ’The Tapes Archive’

April 27th, 2020

1:19:15

Marc Allan is the man behind ’The Tapes Archive’ which features never-before-heard interviews with people such as Kurt Vonnegut, John Mellencamp, and Joan Rivers. On this week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, we talk …

62: Mark Montieth, Indiana Sports Journalist

April 20th, 2020

1:20:37

Mark Montieth is one of the foremost chroniclers of Indiana sports history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Mark talks about his career in journalism, the epic events he has covered, some of his favorite …

61: Donnie Walsh, Former Executive with the Indiana Pacers

April 13th, 2020

1:15:49

As general manager, president and CEO of the Indiana Pacers, Donnie Walsh is directly responsible for giving Pacer fans some of the best seasons and most memorable moments in team history. On this week’s "Leaders and …

60: Gene Keady, Former Purdue University Basketball Coach

April 6th, 2020

1:15:58

This week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast features former Purdue University basketball coach Gene Keady. All you need to know about his competitiveness is captured by this picture—which shows Coach Keady being calmed …

59: Chris Baggott, CEO and Co-founder of ClusterTruck

March 30th, 2020

1:11:37

On this week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast we sit down with Chris Baggott, CEO and Co-founder of ClusterTruck and one of the founders of ExactTarget. Chris not only is a tech and food entrepreneur, he is also a farmer …

58: Jamie Merisotis, CEO of the Lumina Foundation

March 23rd, 2020

1:02:37

Jamie Merisotis, CEO of the Lumina Foundation, is this week’s guest on the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast. Lumina is one of the largest private foundations in the United States. They are a critical engine in driving …

57: Retrospective on the Life and Career of Mayor Bill Hudnut

March 16th, 2020

1:05:31

On this week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, we discuss the career of the man more responsible than anyone else for Indianapolis’ magnificence and …

56: Jeff Smulyan, Founder and CEO of Emmis Communications

March 9th, 2020

1:06:16

Jeff Smulyan is one of Indianapolis’ most prominent and generous citizens. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Jeff joins us to discuss his …

55: Federal Judge Sarah Evans Barker

March 2nd, 2020

1:11:21

Judge Sarah Evans Barker not only has received “Living Legend” status from the Indiana Historical Society, but also has served on the federal bench since 1984. She sits down with Danielle Shockey and me to discuss her …

54: Michael Browning, Chairman of the Board, Browning Investments

February 24th, 2020

1:00:48

Michael Browning is one of the most successful and impactful business and civic leaders in the history of modern Indianapolis; but not only that, he …

53: Kathy Davis, Former Lt. Governor of Indiana

February 17th, 2020

1:03:55

In 2003, Kathy Davis became the first female Lieutenant Governor in Indiana history. On this week’ ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, which was recorded …

52: Greg Renoff, Author of “Van Halen Rising: How a Southern California Backyard Party Band Saved Heavy Metal"

February 10th, 2020

1:30:57

Van Halen’s eruption onto the national music scene began 42 years ago today—on February 10, 1978. Historian and author Greg Renoff penned a history of the band’s early years titled “Van Halen Rising: How a Southern …

51: How Did Indianapolis Win the Super Bowl? Mark Miles, Mel Raines, and Mayor Ballard Explain

February 3rd, 2020

1:07:27

This week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast gives you the inside story about how Indianapolis won the right to host a Super Bowl and how things like …

50: Eddie White With Stories From His 26 Super Bowls

January 27th, 2020

1:13:21

Eddie White is one of the most recognizable names and personalities in our Hoosier sports and entertainment culture. He joins the “Leaders and …

49: Angela Brown, World-Renowned Soprano Opera Singer

January 20th, 2020

55:14

Angela Brown is one of our state’s greatest treasures. A graduate of Crispus Attucks, Angela is an opera singer who has performed all around the …

48: Mike Riley, Campaign Director for Senator Robert F. Kennedy’s 1968 Indiana Campaign

January 13th, 2020

1:03:27

Mike Riley was the campaign director for Senator Robert F. Kennedy’s campaign in Indiana in 1968. He sits down with the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss that campaign and the experience of working with the …

47: Robin Winston and Mike McDaniel, Former State Chairs of the Democrats and Republicans

January 6th, 2020

1:08:33

Robin Winston and Mike McDaniel were friends while serving as chairmen of their respective political parties and remain friends today. On today’s …

46: Robert Vane Discusses Leaders and Legends with Chris Spangle

December 30th, 2019

1:17:05

We learned a lot about people, places, and events during our “Leaders and Legends” podcasts in 2019. On today’s episode, Chris Spangle talks with your usual host about the podcast, his background, and what we are going …

45: Andy Jacobs Jr. Retrospective

December 16th, 2019

1:05:13

Congressman Andy Jacobs fought for his country and he fought for his city. He remains one of the shining examples of true public service. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we sit down with three people who …

44: Paul Okeson and Mike O’Connor, Chief of Staff to Mayors Ballard and Peterson (Respectively)

December 9th, 2019

1:07:00

Paul Okeson and Mike O’Connor served as chief of staff to Mayors Ballard and Peterson respectively. They were known both for their political savvy …

43: Brian Payne, President & CEO of the Central Indiana Community Foundation

December 2nd, 2019

1:00:47

Brian Payne’s impact on our city and its connectivity includes the Cultural Trail, but also includes so much more than that. On this week’s “Leaders …

42: Shannon Williams and Brandon Brown of the Mind Trust

November 25th, 2019

1:00:23

The Mind Trust is one of the most impactful organizations in our city’s history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we are joined by two …

41: Kelly Mitchell, Indiana’s State Treasurer

November 18th, 2019

56:32

Kelly Mitchell is not only Indiana’s elected State Treasurer, she is also one of the most-grounded and well-liked people I’ve ever met. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Kelly about her …

40: Eddie White, Director of Corporate Communications for the Pacers

November 12th, 2019

1:16:13

Indy sports icon Eddie White has worked for both Lou Holtz and Don Shula. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Eddie about his …

39: Bart Peterson, Former Mayor of Indianapolis and President and CEO of Christel House

November 4th, 2019

1:13:55

In 1999, Bart Peterson’s victorious campaign ended 32 consecutive years of Republicans holding the Indianapolis mayor’s office. We sat down with him …

38: Sallie Rowland, Entrepreneur and Philanthropist

October 28th, 2019

55:10

When someone starts a sentence with ’the first woman to…”—that sentence usually ends with Sallie Rowland. Pioneer, entrepreneur, a Indiana Historical Society “Living Legend”, and former Girl Scout, Sallie is one of the …

37: David Harris, Founder and Former CEO of The Mind Trust

October 21st, 2019

58:43

David Harris’s work has changed not only Indianapolis as a whole, but the lives of thousands of young men and women in our city and beyond. In this …

36: Maggie Lewis, Indianapolis City-County Councillor and CEO of Boys & Girls Clubs of Indianapolis

October 14th, 2019

52:11

City-County Councillor Maggie Lewis is one of the most upbeat, energetic, positive, and collaborative leaders I’ve ever met. On this week’s “Leaders …

35: Craig Prater, President of the Heartland Film Festival

October 7th, 2019

1:02:44

Craig Prater is the president of Heartland Film and has a long and distinguished career in the film festival industry. He sits down with us to talk about his career, the importance of art to a community, and how the …

34: Dave Neff and EDGE Mentoring

October 1st, 2019

1:04:52

Dave Neff of Edge Mentoring is changing lives by putting people together to make themselves both better leaders and better people. Dave is a huge supporter of the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, and we are deeply …

33: Susan Brooks, Indiana Congresswoman for the 5th District

September 23rd, 2019

1:02:23

Congresswoman Susan Brooks is exactly what you want in a public servant—genuine, honest, kind, and someone not afraid to speak her mind. We are fortunate to have this former deputy mayor and United States Attorney on …

32: Jim Morris, Vice Chairman of Pacers Sports and Entertainment

September 16th, 2019

1:07:35

Jim Morris’ impact on Indianapolis is simply immeasurable. From chief of staff to Mayor Richard Lugar to vice chairman of Pacers Sports and …

31: Richard Hall, Former Hostage of Tony Kiritsis

September 9th, 2019

58:08

On February 8, 1977, Tony Kiritsis took Richard Hall hostage. In a multi-day drama, Hall was threatened and paraded in front of a captivated and …

30: Eric Holcomb, Governor of Indiana

September 2nd, 2019

50:53

Eric Holcomb is rightly regarded as one of the most genuine people in politics. He loves being a Hoosier and it shows every day as he compiles a …

29: Sammy Davis, Medal of Honor Recipient

August 26th, 2019

1:07:24

The life of SFC Sammy Davis is one without equal in Hoosier history. On the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we are honored to present the story of this incomparably selfless patriot and Medal of Honor recipient.

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28: Suzanne Crouch, Lt. Governor of Indiana

August 19th, 2019

53:41

Lieutenant Governor Suzanne Crouch is one of the most accomplished leaders in Indiana. She joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week to …

27: Mitch Daniels, President of Purdue University and Former Governor of Indiana

August 12th, 2019

59:39

Mitch Daniels’ career is without parallel in modern Indiana history. An advisor to Senator Richard Lugar, President Ronald Reagan, and President George W. Bush, Daniels’ path to the governor’s office was shaped by his …

26: Nate Feltman, Businessman and Co-Owner of the Indianapolis Business Journal

July 29th, 2019

1:01:29

Nate Feltman is one of the most successful young leaders in our state. From heading the IEDC, to being an entrepreneur, and now a part-owner of the …

25: Sue Ellspermann, President of Ivy Tech and former Lt. Governor of Indiana

July 22nd, 2019

59:29

Sue Ellspermann is this week’s guest on our “Leaders and Legends” podcast. A former lieutenant governor and now president of Ivy Tech, Sue’s career is one dedicated to education, workforce development, and public …

24: Dan Elsener, President of Marian University

July 15th, 2019

1:06:29

Dan Elsener is one of the pre-eminent leaders and education thought drivers in our city and our country. Dan’s drive for excellence and unparalleled …

23: Rob Kendall of WIBC and Chris Spangle of We Are Libertarians

July 8th, 2019

1:07:00

Rob Kendall and Chris Spangle are political (and romantic) rivals who don’t take themselves too seriously, yet still bring an incredible amount of …

22: Peter Carmichael, Director of the Civil War Institute at Gettysburg College

July 1st, 2019

1:13:37

Professor Peter Carmichael went from being at Pike High School with Eric Holcomb to being the Director of the Civil War Institute at Gettysburg …

21: Mickey Maurer, Chairman of the board at IBJ Corp. and The National Bank of Indianapolis

June 24th, 2019

59:22

Mickey Maurer is an entrepreneur, a philanthropist, an owner of the Indianapolis Business Journal, and now he’s a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” …

20: David Frick, Former Deputy Mayor to Bill Hudnut

June 17th, 2019

1:03:32

Are you a Colts fan? If so, you will want to listen to this edition of the “Leaders and Legends” podcast as our friend David Frick discusses leading …

19: Remembering Senator Birch Bayh

June 10th, 2019

1:06:24

Birch Bayh was a titan of modern Indiana politics and an exemplar of public service. Sadly, as we did Senator Richard Lugar, we lost Senator Bayh …

18: Terry Curry, Marion County Prosecutor

June 3rd, 2019

1:04:46

Terry Curry served in the military, worked as a journalist, and is in his third term as Marion County prosecutor. He details his love of both the law …

17: Mark Miles, Chief Executive Officer of Hulman & Company

May 27th, 2019

1:02:41

Mark Miles is one of the pre-eminent leaders in modern Indianapolis. Declared a ‘Living Legend’ by the Indiana Historical Society, Mark has managed …

16: Allison Melangton, Senior VP of Hulman Motorsports

May 20th, 2019

1:10:01

Allison Melangton is simply one of the most phenomenal leaders in the history of modern Indianapolis. She’s worked the Olympics, led the Indiana …

15: Remembering Senator Richard Lugar

May 13th, 2019

1:01:18

The passing of Senator Richard Lugar has caused many from the Hoosier State (and beyond) to reflect on the senator’s life and legacy. In a very special “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we brought together three people who …

14: Tim Swarens, Journalist

May 6th, 2019

1:08:49

Tim Swarens is a good friend who had a journalism career that spanned more than 30 years. He covered the Challenger explosion, the execution of Ted Bundy, Indy’s Super Bowl, and RFRA. Tim is unfailingly honest about the …

13: Jim Kittle and Ed Treacy, Former Indiana GOP Chair and Former Marion County Democratic Chair

April 29th, 2019

57:23

Jim Kittle and Ed Treacy are bareknuckle political brawlers who have fought the good fight for their respective parties since the 1960s. They’ve also …

12: Marc Allan, Media Critic and Journalist

April 22nd, 2019

1:09:38

Marc Allan is a Seinfeld expert, a music expert, and one of the absolute best people you will ever meet. As he celebrates his retirement from Butler …

11: Sherry Seiwert, President of Downtown Indy Inc.

April 15th, 2019

59:07

Sherry Seiwert, president of Downtown Indy Inc., is a perfect example of the leadership that makes our city prosper and grow. As Indianapolis is the …

10: Shelly Fitzgerald

April 8th, 2019

51:35

Shelly Fitzgerald has dedicated her life to helping others. She became a focus of intense media and community scrutiny based on events at Roncalli …

9: Tom Coverdale, 1998's Indiana Mr. Basketball and IU Point Guard

April 1st, 2019

1:07:25

Noblesville’s Tom Coverdale was Indiana Mr. Basketball in 1998 and the point guard on Indiana University’s Final Four team in 2002. As we approach the end of the NCAA tournament, let’s listen to Tom talk about the …

8: Ryan Vaughn, President of the Indiana Sports Corporation

March 25th, 2019

56:56

Former prosecutor, former City-County Council President, former chief of staff to Mayor Greg Ballard, Ryan Vaughn is one of the most respected and …

7: John Mutz and Louis Mahern, Former Indiana Lt. Governor and Former State Senator

March 18th, 2019

1:16:59

John Mutz and Louis Mahern are what bi-partisan friendship and collaboration are all about. Mutz, Republican and former lieutenant governor & …

6: Theresa Wells-Ditton, Former WTHR-TV News Director

March 11th, 2019

56:40

Theresa Wells-Ditton is one of city’s most well-liked and respected journalists. For more than 30 years Theresa has been a leader for television news. Please listen to this remarkable and life-long Hoosier describe why …

5: David Barras, Former WISH-TV News Anchor

March 4th, 2019

54:29

David Barras is one of the good guys. Today on “Leaders and Legends” we turn the tables on one of Indianapolis media’s best interviewers. Dave …

4: Jim Shella, Former WISH-TV Political Reporter

February 25th, 2019

59:13

'Leaders and Legends’ is extremely fortunate to have local media legend Jim Shella on our podcast. No reporter with whom I ever worked was more …

3: Stevi Stoesz and Amanda Kingsbury, Executive Director of the City Market and Journalist

February 18th, 2019

54:00

Stevi Stoesz and Amanda Kingsbury joined the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, and we had a terrific, thought-provoking discussion. These two leaders remain at the forefront of so many important issues facing our city. We …

2: Bill Benner, Executive Director of the Pacers Foundation

February 11th, 2019

51:36

A sports journalist in Indiana for 45 years, Bill Benner is one of the most respected and well-liked figures in the history of Indianapolis media. …

1: Greg Ballard, Former Mayor of Indianapolis

February 1st, 2019

49:05

In our inaugural 'Leaders and Legends' podcast, we sit down with former Indianapolis mayor and retired Marine officer Greg Ballard. Shocking the …

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