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The Leaders and Legends podcast features conversations with fascinating and dynamic men and women whose impact has shaped our knowledge, our world, and us. Join us as we discuss their imprint on our history. The program is hosted by Robert Vane who is principal of Veteran Strategies, Inc., an-Indian… read more

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Ann Murtlow, President and CEO at United Way of Central Indiana

January 17th, 2022


Ann Murtlow’s leadership has made a significant difference for so many people around our state and beyond. In her first in-depth interview since announcing her retirement as President and CEO at United Way of Central …

Dana Hunsinger Benbow, Sports Reporter for The Indianapolis Star

January 10th, 2022


Dana Hunsinger Benbow is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Dana is a sports reporter for The Indianapolis Star who writes …

George Will, Columnist for the Washington Post

January 3rd, 2022


George Will is one of the most respected commentators and famous baseball fans in the United States—and he’s also 2022’s first guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talked with Mr. Will about baseball, history, …

Our 2021 Retrospective with Robert Vane and Chris Spangle

December 27th, 2021


While 2021 has had its share of disappointing moments, we at the “Leaders and Legends” podcast were honored to have some amazing guests come on to discuss their careers, research, achievements, and greatest influences. …

Brad Chambers, Indiana’s Secretary of Commerce

December 20th, 2021


Brad Chambers is Indiana’s Secretary of Commerce, the CEO of the Indiana Economic Development Corporation, and one of our state’s most successful …

Dr. Neil Lanctot, Author of “The Approaching Storm: Roosevelt, Wilson, Addams and Their Clash Over America’s Future”

December 13th, 2021


Dr. Neil Lanctot is the author of a new book on the United States' entry into World War I, and he’s also our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. “The Approaching Storm: Roosevelt, Wilson, Addams and …

Evan Bayh, Former Governor and Senator of Indiana

December 6th, 2021


Evan Bayh is one of only two Hoosiers to win statewide elective office at least five times. He was a governor, a United States Senator, and now we’re happy to say he’s our guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We …

Willard Sterne Randall on the Founding Fathers

November 29th, 2021


Willard Sterne Randall is one of America’s most eminent historians of the Colonial and Revolutionary Era. He makes the first of two appearances on …

Brad Tolinski, Author of “Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen”

November 22nd, 2021


Former Guitar World magazine editor-in-chief Brad Tolinski is one of the world’s most famous and respected music journalists. He appears on this …

Becky Skillman, Former Lt. Governor of Indiana

November 15th, 2021


Becky Skillman served Hoosiers with distinction as their 49th lieutenant governor—but her career was remarkable long before she joined Mitch Daniels’ ticket in 2004. She held several elected offices and was in the room …

Professor Allen Guelzo on Robert E. Lee

November 8th, 2021


Professor Allen Guelzo of Princeton University is one of our country’s pre-eminent scholars of the American Civil War. On this week’s “Leaders and …

Dr. Katie Jenner, Indiana’s first Secretary of Education

November 1st, 2021


Dr. Katie Jenner is Indiana’s first Secretary of Education and this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast with our co-host, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Indiana and former principal Danielle Shockey. We …

Historian Michael Dobbs, Author of “One Minute to Midnight”

October 25th, 2021


In October 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union stood on the brink of mutual nuclear annihilation. Historian Michael Dobbs returns to the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his book “One Minute to …

Murray Clark and Kip Tew, Former State Chairs of the Republican and Democratic Parties of Indiana (Respectively)

October 18th, 2021


The list of my political friends who have fought the good fight is a long one for sure. Today on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast we chat with my …

David Benner, Director of Media Relations for the Indiana Pacers

October 4th, 2021


David Benner is the director of Media Relations for the Indiana Pacers who just announced he’s retiring at the end of the coming NBA season. For 27 years, David has set a sterling example of what professional sports …

Dr Suzannah Lipscomb, Host of “Not Just the Tudors”

September 27th, 2021


Dr. Suzannah Lipscomb is one of the world’s most popular British historians with a social media following of more than 200,000 people. She received …

Claudia Cummings, President and CEO of the Indiana Philanthropy Alliance

September 20th, 2021


Claudia Cummings’ career is a model of public sector and philanthropic service.  Claudia joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss some of the things she’s learned along the way, what it’s like to be a …

Paul Page, Author of “Hello, I’m Paul Page and it’s Race Day in Indianapolis”

September 13th, 2021


Paul Page is one of Indianapolis’ most endearing and enduring sports journalists. His career as the “Voice of the Indianapolis 500” spanned decades, …

Dr. Craig Symonds, American Naval and Military History

September 6th, 2021


Dr. Craig Symonds is a brilliant and best-selling historian of American naval and military history. He’s also written about D-Day and the Battle of Gettysburg among other works. Professor Symonds joins me on the …

Remembering Congresswoman Julia Carson

August 30th, 2021


Congresswoman Julia Carson broke down barriers while building up the people and opportunities in her district. Her grandson, Congressman Andre …

Cathy Langham, Owner and President of Langham Logistics, Inc.

August 23rd, 2021


Cathy Langham is one of the most respected and successful entrepreneurs in all of Indiana, and she’s also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and …

Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick

August 16th, 2021


Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick is one of the most accomplished and respected civic leaders in the history of modern Indianapolis (and …

Michael Dobbs, Author of “King Richard: Nixon and Watergate: An American Tragedy”

August 9th, 2021


It was 47 years ago today that embattled Richard Nixon resigned the presidency due to the scandals collectively known as Watergate. In Michael Dobbs’ …

Al Unser, Jr., Two-Time Winner of the Indy 500

August 2nd, 2021


Al Unser, Jr. is not only a two-time champion of the Indianapolis 500, a scion of one of racing’s greatest families, and one of the most popular …

Historian Fergus Bordewich on His Book “Congress At War”

July 26th, 2021


Abraham Lincoln gets most of the attention given for political and governmental leadership during the American Civil War and deservedly so. The role …

Gerry Dick, Host of “Inside Indiana Business”

July 19th, 2021


Gerry Dick’s career on Indiana television spans decades. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with the host of “Inside Indiana Business” about his career in journalism, some of his favorite interview …

Fred Glass, Former Vice President and Director of Athletics at Indiana University

July 12th, 2021


Fred Glass is one of the most respected civic leaders in Modern Indianapolis. He also served as a Vice President and athletic director at his alma …

Ted Widmer, Author of Lincoln on the Verge

July 5th, 2021


Abraham Lincoln’s journey to Washington, D.C. to take the oath of office was the most dangerous in history. In his book “Lincoln on the Verge”, …

Frank Anderson, Former Marion County Sheriff and United States Marshal

June 28th, 2021


Frank Anderson has one of the most impressive careers in public service that I’ve ever encountered. The former Marion County sheriff and United States Marshal joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast for a fun and …

Michael Huber, CEO of the Greater Indianapolis Chamber of Commerce

June 21st, 2021


Our friend Michael Huber had me on his “Michael Loves Indy” podcast a little while ago and this week we return the favor; Michael is the president …

Paul Lushin, Founder and CEO of Lushin, Inc

June 14th, 2021


Paul Lushin has had one of the most varied and interesting entrepreneurial careers I’ve ever encountered. As founder and CEO of Lushin, Inc, Paul has …

Andrew Nagorski, Author of “1941: The Year Germany Lost the War”

June 7th, 2021


When did Germany lose World War II? According to journalist and historian Andrew Nagorski, Hitler’s fate was sealed near the very beginning of the conflict. Andrew joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to …

Brigadier General Stewart Goodwin, Executive Director of the Indiana War Memorials

May 31st, 2021


On Memorial Day weekend, the “Leaders and Legends” podcast features a conversation with Brigadier General Stewart Goodwin. The general spent 37 years in the military, but is probably best known as the smiling face that …

Historian Peter Cozzens on His Book “Tecumseh and the Prophet”

May 24th, 2021


Historian Peter Cozzens has written some of the most popular and well-received books on American History—and he’s our guest on this week’s “Leaders …

Malcolm Moran, Journalist

May 17th, 2021


Malcolm Moran is one of the most honored sports journalists in America. He has covered nearly 40 Final Fours, 11 Super Bowls, 16 World Series, and …

Indianapolis Motor Speedway President Doug Boles

May 10th, 2021


Indianapolis Motor Speedway President Doug Boles is one of the most respected, visionary, and brilliant leaders in the Hoosier State and beyond. On …

Robin Miller, Journalist

May 3rd, 2021


Robin Miller is a Hall of Famer in more ways than one—sportswriter, story teller, and champion of the Workingman’s Friend. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, fellow Hall of Fame Bill Benner joins me for a …

Professor Stephen Fritz On His Book “The First Soldier: Hitler as Military Leader”

April 26th, 2021


Was Adolf Hitler’s military leadership truly the cause of Nazi Germany’s defeat in World War II? On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we …

Remember Governor Frank O’Bannon

April 19th, 2021


Frank O’Bannon is one of the most successful political figures in Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we are joined by …

Teresa Lubbers, Indiana’s Commissioner of Higher Education

April 12th, 2021


Teresa Lubbers is a former state senator and is currently Indiana’s Commissioner of Higher Education. She worked for Senator Richard Lugar and is a proud Eastsider by birth (she graduated from Warren Central). She joins …

Mitch Daniels, Part 2

April 7th, 2021


Governor Mitch Daniels’s administration is one of the most consequential in the history of Indiana. We celebrate his 72nd birthday by posting a new interview—this one covers his seminal 2004 campaign and his eight years …

Mitch Daniels, Part 1

April 5th, 2021


It was back in August 2019 that the “Leaders and Legends” podcast posted our conversation with Purdue University President Mitch Daniels; we are reposting it today because on April 7th (Mitch’s 72nd birthday), we will …

Barry Collier, Butler Athletic Director

March 29th, 2021


Butler athletic director Barry Collier knows a thing or two about the NCAA tournament and winning basketball games. On this week’s “Leaders and …

Professor Bruce Levine on Thaddeus Stevens

March 22nd, 2021


Representative Thaddeus Stevens—famously portrayed by Tommy Lee Jones in the movie “Lincoln”—was one of the first and most fiery Republican …

Vic Ryckaert, Journalist

March 15th, 2021


Vic Ryckaert is a former Marine, one of the best journalists with whom I’ve ever worked, and is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk with Vic about what made him join the military, some of the …

Remembering Benjamin Harrison, The 23rd President of the United States

March 8th, 2021


Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd president of the United States and a proud resident of Indianapolis. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we …

Sarah Taylor, Executive Director of the Hoosier Lottery

March 1st, 2021


Sarah Taylor is one of the most well-liked and respected public officials in modern Indianapolis history. She is also our guest on this week’s …

David O. Stewart on “George Washington: The Political Rise of America's Founding Father”

February 22nd, 2021


Today is George Washington’s 289th birthday and the Leaders and Legends podcast is celebrating it by interviewing the Father of Our Country’s latest biographer. David O. Stewart’s account focuses on Washington’s …

Indiana Fever president and COO Allison Barber

February 15th, 2021


Indiana Fever president and COO Allison Barber is one of our state's most amazing success stories. Her resume is so incredible, I am not even sure we covered all of it in our interview. Allison visited the “Leaders and …

Remembering Former Governor Robert Orr

February 8th, 2021


Bob Orr was more than a governor. He was a graduate of Yale, a veteran of World War II, and a Hoosier who knew how to lead. Our “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week features a conversation about the life and times of …

Marlin Jackson, Former Colt, on his Fight for Life Foundation

February 1st, 2021


Marlin Jackson made one of the most famous plays in Indianapolis Colts history when he intercepted Tom Brady in the 2006 AFC Championship Game. He …

Jon Wertheim, Executive Editor of Sports Illustrated

January 25th, 2021


Jon Wertheim is the executive editor of Sports Illustrated and one very proud Hoosier. Born in Bloomington and educated at Yale and the University of Pennsylvania, Jon’s writing has led him to become the world’s leading …

Marianne Glick, Philanthropist

January 18th, 2021


Marianne Glick is a philanthropist, a painter, a proud Butler Bulldog, and a phenomenal interview. She joins Girl Scouts of Central Indiana CEO …

Robert Vane and Chris Spangle on Leaders and Legends Year Two

January 11th, 2021


In our second annual podcast retrospective, Chris Spangle and I discuss the year that was 2020. We share some of our favorite moments, guests’ stories, and preview what’s coming in 2021. We also detail what our podcast …

Leslie Bailey and Amanda Kingsbury of Indy Maven

January 4th, 2021


Amanda Kingsbury and Leslie Bailey are award-winning journalists who are the driving force behind “Indy Maven”—a web site designed to engage in …

Clint Hill, Former Kennedy Secret Service Agent

December 28th, 2020


Clint Hill is forever enshrined in our memories as the Secret Service Agent who climbed about the Kennedy limousine in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The “Leaders and Legends” podcast is honored to have him (and Lisa …

Elaine Bedel, CEO of the Indiana Destination Development Corporation

December 21st, 2020


Elaine Bedel is a pioneer, an entrepreneur, an author, and a nationally-recognized expert in the world of finance. She’s been the president of the Indiana Economic Development Corporation and is now the CEO of the …

Indiana University Professor James H. Madison

December 14th, 2020


Indiana University Professor James H. Madison is one of our state’s preeminent historians. Designated a “Living Legend” by the Indiana Historical Society, Jim’s latest book “The Ku Klux Klan in the Heartland” is …

Jim Brainard, Mayor of Carmel

December 7th, 2020


Jim Brainard’s leadership has transformed Carmel into a city known around the world for its arts, culture, and livability. Mayor Brainard joins us on …

Angela Braly, Co-Founder of The Policy Circle and Former Anthem CEO

November 30th, 2020


Angela Braly served as president and chief executive officer of WellPoint (now Anthem). She comes on the 'Leaders and Legends' podcast to discuss her career, growing up in Texas, and the importance of female executives …

Chris Zorich, All-American Football Player at Notre Dame

November 23rd, 2020


Chris Zorich was an All-American at Notre Dame, a member of its 1988 National Championship team, and was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame …

Historian Harold Holzer on Abraham Lincoln

November 16th, 2020


November 19th is the 157th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s delivery of the Gettysburg Address; on this week’s Leaders and Legends podcast …

Veterans Day - The Marion County Veterans Court

November 9th, 2020


Veterans Day is one of the most special holidays of the year. On this week?s Leaders and Legends podcast, we are joined by Judge David Certo, …

Pete Ward, Chief Operating Officer for the Indianapolis Colts

November 2nd, 2020


Pete Ward began his front office football career as an intern with the Baltimore Colts in the early 1980s. He is now the Chief Operating Officer for …

Edward Larson, Author of Summer for the Gods

October 26th, 2020


Professor Edward Larson is a best-selling historian who received the 1998 Pulitzer Prize in History for his book on the Scopes Monkey Trial. Dr. …

Jim Voyles

October 19th, 2020


Jim Voyles is simply one of the most respected, most successful attorneys in the United States. He comes on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to talk …

Harold Holzer , Historian and Author of “The Presidents vs. The Press."

October 12th, 2020


Harold Holzer is one of the foremost Lincoln scholars in the world—so much so that he served as the historical advisor to the movie “Lincoln.” Harold …

Craig Fehrman on “Authors in Chief: the Untold Story of Our Presidents and the Books They Wrote”

October 5th, 2020


Author and historian and Hoosier Craig Fehrman is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. His book, “Authors in Chief: the Untold …

Republican Lou Gerig and Democrat Bill Moreau on “One More Voice”

September 28th, 2020


Republican Lou Gerig and Democrat Bill Moreau are long-time friend whose paths have crossed many time during the years. They visited us on the …

David and Jeanne Heidler, Authors of The Rise of Andrew Jackson: Myth, Manipulation, and the Making of Modern Politics

September 21st, 2020


Historians (and husband and wife) David and Jeanne Heidler have written terrific books on George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, and other topics of American history. They join the “Leaders and Legends” podcast …

Reggie Brooks, Notre Dame Football Great

September 14th, 2020


Reggie Brooks is one of the greatest players in the history of Notre Dame football. He was an All-American and made critical, game-changing plays in some of the Irish’s most memorable games. He joins the “Leaders and …

A Look Into Eric Holcomb’s 106 - day Campaign for Governor in 2016

September 7th, 2020


Eric Holcomb’s victorious 106-day campaign for governor in 2016 is without precedent in Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” …

Julie Goodman, Arts Council of Indianapolis CEO

August 31st, 2020


Julie Goodman is the president and CEO of the Arts Council of Indianapolis. Julie joins the podcast to talk about her career, her love of Indy, and …

Johnny Rutherford, Three-Time Winner of the Indianapolis 500

August 24th, 2020


Johnny Rutherford is one of the most successful and popular drivers in the history of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. A champion of the Indianapolis …

Author Greg Renoff on Ted Templeman, Music Producer to Van Halen and the Doobie Brothers

August 17th, 2020


Best-selling music author Dr Greg Renoff returns to the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his biography of famed music producer Ted Templeman (Van Halen, Van Morrison, and the Doobie Brothers among many others). …

Kate Andersen Brower on her book “Team of Five: the Presidents Club in the Age of Trump”

August 10th, 2020


Kate Andersen Brower is a journalist, an author, and now a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast.  Her books include the #1 New York Times bestseller The Residence (about the White House) while her latest book is: …

Remembering Former Governor Joe Kernan

August 3rd, 2020


Joe Kernan was Irish before he was a naval officer, a prisoner of war before he was mayor, humble before he was governor, and beloved eternally by those who knew him. We lost the governor last week and extend our …

Lynn Vincent and Sara Vladic on the USS Indianapolis Disaster

July 27th, 2020


On July 30, 1945, the USS Indianapolis was sunk in what remains the biggest sea disaster in U.S. naval history. The “Leaders and Legends” podcast …

76: Mark Boyle, Radio Voice of the Indiana Pacers

July 20th, 2020


Mark Boyle is the brilliant and beloved radio voice of our Indiana Pacers. He joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to talk about his career, …

75: Ted Boehm, Former Justice on the Indiana Supreme Court

July 13th, 2020


When it comes to having a varied and impactful career, there are few people in Ted Boehm’s league. He clerked for Chief Justice Earl Warren, helped …

74: Brooks Simpson, Historian and Author of Ulysses S. Grant: Triumph over Adversity

July 5th, 2020


Brooks Simpson is one of the world’s leading authorities on the life, times, and career of Ulysses S. Grant. Professor Simpson was kind enough to come on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss a man whom I …

73: Jake Query of the IMS Radio Network

June 29th, 2020


Jake Query is our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. He’s been a fixture on the Indianapolis media and sports scene for years, and …

72: Seth Morales, President of the Morales Group

June 22nd, 2020


Our “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week features Seth Morales—who probably knows more people than anyone I’ve ever met. He played in the Rose Bowl while at Purdue, earned his MBA from Notre Dame, and is President of …

71: Mike Lopresti, Hall of Fame Sports Journalist

June 15th, 2020


Journalist and Hall of Famer Mike Lopresti is one of the most-honored sportswriters in the United States. Mike’s career has had him cover 32 World Series, 31 Super Bowls, 34 NCAA Men’s Basketball Final Fours, as well as …

70: Tony Mason, President and CEO of the Indianapolis Urban League

June 10th, 2020


Tony Mason is the president and CEO of the Indianapolis Urban League. Tony’s resume includes stints at the Super Bowl Committee, the Circle City …

69: Ray Tolbert, A Captain on IU Basketball's 1981 National Championship Team

June 1st, 2020


Ray Tolbert was a captain on IU’s 1981 national championship team. He was also Indiana Mr. Basketball in 1977, a gold medal winner in the 1979 Pan-Am …

68: Donald Davidson, Indianapolis Motor Speedway Historian

May 25th, 2020


We all are missing the Indianapolis 500 this weekend, but the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast is bringing you the next best thing—a conversation with …

67: Fahad Nazer, Spokesperson for the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington, D.C.

May 21st, 2020


When you get a chance to chat with the spokesperson for the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington, D.C., you take it. Fahad Nazer joined the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast to talk about his background, the importance of …

66: Dr. David Edmonds, author of Bobby Fischer Goes to War

May 18th, 2020


Okay, so this podcast is really just for me and other chess nerds—but I hope you like it. In 1972, Bobby Fischer wrested the world chess championship from the Commie Soviet Union. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” …

65: Dave Lindquist, Entertainment Reporter for the Indianapolis Star

May 11th, 2020


One of the two men in our photo is David Lindquist. A veteran journalist, Dave has written about music and pop culture for The Indianapolis Star …

64: Indiana's Senior United States Senator Todd Young

May 4th, 2020


Todd Young is the senior United States Senator from Indiana. He’s also a graduate of the Naval Academy, a former Marine officer, and as down-to-earth elected official as you will ever meet. Senator Young spent an hour …

63: Marc Allan on ’The Tapes Archive’

April 27th, 2020


Marc Allan is the man behind ’The Tapes Archive’ which features never-before-heard interviews with people such as Kurt Vonnegut, John Mellencamp, and Joan Rivers. On this week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, we talk …

62: Mark Montieth, Indiana Sports Journalist

April 20th, 2020


Mark Montieth is one of the foremost chroniclers of Indiana sports history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Mark talks about his career in journalism, the epic events he has covered, some of his favorite …

61: Donnie Walsh, Former Executive with the Indiana Pacers

April 13th, 2020


As general manager, president and CEO of the Indiana Pacers, Donnie Walsh is directly responsible for giving Pacer fans some of the best seasons and most memorable moments in team history. On this week’s "Leaders and …

60: Gene Keady, Former Purdue University Basketball Coach

April 6th, 2020


This week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast features former Purdue University basketball coach Gene Keady. All you need to know about his competitiveness is captured by this picture—which shows Coach Keady being calmed …

59: Chris Baggott, CEO and Co-founder of ClusterTruck

March 30th, 2020


On this week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast we sit down with Chris Baggott, CEO and Co-founder of ClusterTruck and one of the founders of ExactTarget. Chris not only is a tech and food entrepreneur, he is also a farmer …

58: Jamie Merisotis, CEO of the Lumina Foundation

March 23rd, 2020


Jamie Merisotis, CEO of the Lumina Foundation, is this week’s guest on the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast. Lumina is one of the largest private foundations in the United States. They are a critical engine in driving …

57: Retrospective on the Life and Career of Mayor Bill Hudnut

March 16th, 2020


On this week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, we discuss the career of the man more responsible than anyone else for Indianapolis’ magnificence and …

56: Jeff Smulyan, Founder and CEO of Emmis Communications

March 9th, 2020


Jeff Smulyan is one of Indianapolis’ most prominent and generous citizens. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Jeff joins us to discuss his …

55: Federal Judge Sarah Evans Barker

March 2nd, 2020


Judge Sarah Evans Barker not only has received “Living Legend” status from the Indiana Historical Society, but also has served on the federal bench since 1984. She sits down with Danielle Shockey and me to discuss her …

54: Michael Browning, Chairman of the Board, Browning Investments

February 24th, 2020


Michael Browning is one of the most successful and impactful business and civic leaders in the history of modern Indianapolis; but not only that, he …

53: Kathy Davis, Former Lt. Governor of Indiana

February 17th, 2020


In 2003, Kathy Davis became the first female Lieutenant Governor in Indiana history. On this week’ ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, which was recorded …

52: Greg Renoff, Author of “Van Halen Rising: How a Southern California Backyard Party Band Saved Heavy Metal"

February 10th, 2020


Van Halen’s eruption onto the national music scene began 42 years ago today—on February 10, 1978. Historian and author Greg Renoff penned a history of the band’s early years titled “Van Halen Rising: How a Southern …

51: How Did Indianapolis Win the Super Bowl? Mark Miles, Mel Raines, and Mayor Ballard Explain

February 3rd, 2020


This week’s ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast gives you the inside story about how Indianapolis won the right to host a Super Bowl and how things like …

50: Eddie White With Stories From His 26 Super Bowls

January 27th, 2020


Eddie White is one of the most recognizable names and personalities in our Hoosier sports and entertainment culture. He joins the “Leaders and …

49: Angela Brown, World-Renowned Soprano Opera Singer

January 20th, 2020


Angela Brown is one of our state’s greatest treasures. A graduate of Crispus Attucks, Angela is an opera singer who has performed all around the …

48: Mike Riley, Campaign Director for Senator Robert F. Kennedy’s 1968 Indiana Campaign

January 13th, 2020


Mike Riley was the campaign director for Senator Robert F. Kennedy’s campaign in Indiana in 1968. He sits down with the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss that campaign and the experience of working with the …

47: Robin Winston and Mike McDaniel, Former State Chairs of the Democrats and Republicans

January 6th, 2020


Robin Winston and Mike McDaniel were friends while serving as chairmen of their respective political parties and remain friends today. On today’s …

46: Robert Vane Discusses Leaders and Legends with Chris Spangle

December 30th, 2019


We learned a lot about people, places, and events during our “Leaders and Legends” podcasts in 2019. On today’s episode, Chris Spangle talks with your usual host about the podcast, his background, and what we are going …

45: Andy Jacobs Jr. Retrospective

December 16th, 2019


Congressman Andy Jacobs fought for his country and he fought for his city. He remains one of the shining examples of true public service. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we sit down with three people who …

44: Paul Okeson and Mike O’Connor, Chief of Staff to Mayors Ballard and Peterson (Respectively)

December 9th, 2019


Paul Okeson and Mike O’Connor served as chief of staff to Mayors Ballard and Peterson respectively. They were known both for their political savvy …

43: Brian Payne, President & CEO of the Central Indiana Community Foundation

December 2nd, 2019


Brian Payne’s impact on our city and its connectivity includes the Cultural Trail, but also includes so much more than that. On this week’s “Leaders …

42: Shannon Williams and Brandon Brown of the Mind Trust

November 25th, 2019


The Mind Trust is one of the most impactful organizations in our city’s history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we are joined by two …

41: Kelly Mitchell, Indiana’s State Treasurer

November 18th, 2019


Kelly Mitchell is not only Indiana’s elected State Treasurer, she is also one of the most-grounded and well-liked people I’ve ever met. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Kelly about her …

40: Eddie White, Director of Corporate Communications for the Pacers

November 12th, 2019


Indy sports icon Eddie White has worked for both Lou Holtz and Don Shula. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Eddie about his …

39: Bart Peterson, Former Mayor of Indianapolis and President and CEO of Christel House

November 4th, 2019


In 1999, Bart Peterson’s victorious campaign ended 32 consecutive years of Republicans holding the Indianapolis mayor’s office. We sat down with him …

38: Sallie Rowland, Entrepreneur and Philanthropist

October 28th, 2019


When someone starts a sentence with ’the first woman to…”—that sentence usually ends with Sallie Rowland. Pioneer, entrepreneur, a Indiana Historical Society “Living Legend”, and former Girl Scout, Sallie is one of the …

37: David Harris, Founder and Former CEO of The Mind Trust

October 21st, 2019


David Harris’s work has changed not only Indianapolis as a whole, but the lives of thousands of young men and women in our city and beyond. In this …

36: Maggie Lewis, Indianapolis City-County Councillor and CEO of Boys & Girls Clubs of Indianapolis

October 14th, 2019


City-County Councillor Maggie Lewis is one of the most upbeat, energetic, positive, and collaborative leaders I’ve ever met. On this week’s “Leaders …

35: Craig Prater, President of the Heartland Film Festival

October 7th, 2019


Craig Prater is the president of Heartland Film and has a long and distinguished career in the film festival industry. He sits down with us to talk about his career, the importance of art to a community, and how the …

34: Dave Neff and EDGE Mentoring

October 1st, 2019


Dave Neff of Edge Mentoring is changing lives by putting people together to make themselves both better leaders and better people. Dave is a huge supporter of the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, and we are deeply …

33: Susan Brooks, Indiana Congresswoman for the 5th District

September 23rd, 2019


Congresswoman Susan Brooks is exactly what you want in a public servant—genuine, honest, kind, and someone not afraid to speak her mind. We are fortunate to have this former deputy mayor and United States Attorney on …

32: Jim Morris, Vice Chairman of Pacers Sports and Entertainment

September 16th, 2019


Jim Morris’ impact on Indianapolis is simply immeasurable. From chief of staff to Mayor Richard Lugar to vice chairman of Pacers Sports and …

31: Richard Hall, Former Hostage of Tony Kiritsis

September 9th, 2019


On February 8, 1977, Tony Kiritsis took Richard Hall hostage. In a multi-day drama, Hall was threatened and paraded in front of a captivated and …

30: Eric Holcomb, Governor of Indiana

September 2nd, 2019


Eric Holcomb is rightly regarded as one of the most genuine people in politics. He loves being a Hoosier and it shows every day as he compiles a …

29: Sammy Davis, Medal of Honor Recipient

August 26th, 2019


The life of SFC Sammy Davis is one without equal in Hoosier history. On the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we are honored to present the story of this incomparably selfless patriot and Medal of Honor recipient.


28: Suzanne Crouch, Lt. Governor of Indiana

August 19th, 2019


Lieutenant Governor Suzanne Crouch is one of the most accomplished leaders in Indiana. She joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week to …

27: Mitch Daniels, President of Purdue University and Former Governor of Indiana

August 12th, 2019


Mitch Daniels’ career is without parallel in modern Indiana history. An advisor to Senator Richard Lugar, President Ronald Reagan, and President George W. Bush, Daniels’ path to the governor’s office was shaped by his …

26: Nate Feltman, Businessman and Co-Owner of the Indianapolis Business Journal

July 29th, 2019


Nate Feltman is one of the most successful young leaders in our state. From heading the IEDC, to being an entrepreneur, and now a part-owner of the …

25: Sue Ellspermann, President of Ivy Tech and former Lt. Governor of Indiana

July 22nd, 2019


Sue Ellspermann is this week’s guest on our “Leaders and Legends” podcast. A former lieutenant governor and now president of Ivy Tech, Sue’s career is one dedicated to education, workforce development, and public …

24: Dan Elsener, President of Marian University

July 15th, 2019


Dan Elsener is one of the pre-eminent leaders and education thought drivers in our city and our country. Dan’s drive for excellence and unparalleled …

23: Rob Kendall of WIBC and Chris Spangle of We Are Libertarians

July 8th, 2019


Rob Kendall and Chris Spangle are political (and romantic) rivals who don’t take themselves too seriously, yet still bring an incredible amount of …

22: Peter Carmichael, Director of the Civil War Institute at Gettysburg College

July 1st, 2019


Professor Peter Carmichael went from being at Pike High School with Eric Holcomb to being the Director of the Civil War Institute at Gettysburg …

21: Mickey Maurer, Chairman of the board at IBJ Corp. and The National Bank of Indianapolis

June 24th, 2019


Mickey Maurer is an entrepreneur, a philanthropist, an owner of the Indianapolis Business Journal, and now he’s a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” …

20: David Frick, Former Deputy Mayor to Bill Hudnut

June 17th, 2019


Are you a Colts fan? If so, you will want to listen to this edition of the “Leaders and Legends” podcast as our friend David Frick discusses leading …

19: Remembering Senator Birch Bayh

June 10th, 2019


Birch Bayh was a titan of modern Indiana politics and an exemplar of public service. Sadly, as we did Senator Richard Lugar, we lost Senator Bayh …

18: Terry Curry, Marion County Prosecutor

June 3rd, 2019


Terry Curry served in the military, worked as a journalist, and is in his third term as Marion County prosecutor. He details his love of both the law …

17: Mark Miles, Chief Executive Officer of Hulman & Company

May 27th, 2019


Mark Miles is one of the pre-eminent leaders in modern Indianapolis. Declared a ‘Living Legend’ by the Indiana Historical Society, Mark has managed …

16: Allison Melangton, Senior VP of Hulman Motorsports

May 20th, 2019


Allison Melangton is simply one of the most phenomenal leaders in the history of modern Indianapolis. She’s worked the Olympics, led the Indiana …

15: Remembering Senator Richard Lugar

May 13th, 2019


The passing of Senator Richard Lugar has caused many from the Hoosier State (and beyond) to reflect on the senator’s life and legacy. In a very special “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we brought together three people who …

14: Tim Swarens, Journalist

May 6th, 2019


Tim Swarens is a good friend who had a journalism career that spanned more than 30 years. He covered the Challenger explosion, the execution of Ted Bundy, Indy’s Super Bowl, and RFRA. Tim is unfailingly honest about the …

13: Jim Kittle and Ed Treacy, Former Indiana GOP Chair and Former Marion County Democratic Chair

April 29th, 2019


Jim Kittle and Ed Treacy are bareknuckle political brawlers who have fought the good fight for their respective parties since the 1960s. They’ve also …

12: Marc Allan, Media Critic and Journalist

April 22nd, 2019


Marc Allan is a Seinfeld expert, a music expert, and one of the absolute best people you will ever meet. As he celebrates his retirement from Butler …

11: Sherry Seiwert, President of Downtown Indy Inc.

April 15th, 2019


Sherry Seiwert, president of Downtown Indy Inc., is a perfect example of the leadership that makes our city prosper and grow. As Indianapolis is the …

10: Shelly Fitzgerald

April 8th, 2019


Shelly Fitzgerald has dedicated her life to helping others. She became a focus of intense media and community scrutiny based on events at Roncalli …

9: Tom Coverdale, 1998's Indiana Mr. Basketball and IU Point Guard

April 1st, 2019


Noblesville’s Tom Coverdale was Indiana Mr. Basketball in 1998 and the point guard on Indiana University’s Final Four team in 2002. As we approach the end of the NCAA tournament, let’s listen to Tom talk about the …

8: Ryan Vaughn, President of the Indiana Sports Corporation

March 25th, 2019


Former prosecutor, former City-County Council President, former chief of staff to Mayor Greg Ballard, Ryan Vaughn is one of the most respected and …

7: John Mutz and Louis Mahern, Former Indiana Lt. Governor and Former State Senator

March 18th, 2019


John Mutz and Louis Mahern are what bi-partisan friendship and collaboration are all about. Mutz, Republican and former lieutenant governor & …

6: Theresa Wells-Ditton, Former WTHR-TV News Director

March 11th, 2019


Theresa Wells-Ditton is one of city’s most well-liked and respected journalists. For more than 30 years Theresa has been a leader for television news. Please listen to this remarkable and life-long Hoosier describe why …

5: David Barras, Former WISH-TV News Anchor

March 4th, 2019


David Barras is one of the good guys. Today on “Leaders and Legends” we turn the tables on one of Indianapolis media’s best interviewers. Dave …

4: Jim Shella, Former WISH-TV Political Reporter

February 25th, 2019


'Leaders and Legends’ is extremely fortunate to have local media legend Jim Shella on our podcast. No reporter with whom I ever worked was more …

3: Stevi Stoesz and Amanda Kingsbury, Executive Director of the City Market and Journalist

February 18th, 2019


Stevi Stoesz and Amanda Kingsbury joined the ‘Leaders and Legends’ podcast, and we had a terrific, thought-provoking discussion. These two leaders remain at the forefront of so many important issues facing our city. We …

2: Bill Benner, Executive Director of the Pacers Foundation

February 11th, 2019


A sports journalist in Indiana for 45 years, Bill Benner is one of the most respected and well-liked figures in the history of Indianapolis media. …

1: Greg Ballard, Former Mayor of Indianapolis

February 1st, 2019


In our inaugural 'Leaders and Legends' podcast, we sit down with former Indianapolis mayor and retired Marine officer Greg Ballard. Shocking the …

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