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Layer 8 Podcast

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In season two of the Layer 8 Podcast, we'll talk to the experts, social engineers and open source intelligence investigators. Sometimes, they'll tell us stories of their experiences, and sometimes we'll have questions for them. We hope you enjoy listening!

77 Episodes | 2019 - 2021

Episode 77: Lorand Bodo - Using OSINT to Find Extremists

September 20th, 2021


For this episode, we talked with Lorand Bodo, one of the creators of OSINT Curious. Lorand talks with us about how he recommends people get started with OSINT, what OSINT is and then takes us through some stories about …

Episode 76: Alethe Denis - Creating Pretexts for Social Engineering

September 13th, 2021


Alethe Denis is an amazing accomplished social engineer. She won the Social Engineering Capture the Flag competition at Defcon 27. She was part of a team that won a Trace Labs OSINT Capture the Flag competition. She …

Episode 75: Rae Baker - Maritime OSINT, Breaking In and OSINT Competitions

September 6th, 2021


For this episode, we get to speak with Rae Baker, also known as Wondersmith_Rae on Twitter. Rae changed careers a few years ago from a graphic designer to the world of OSINT. Along the way, she has competed in and won …

Episode 74: Robin Dreeke - Social Engineering Tradecraft

August 30th, 2021


TW: Brief discussion of sexual assault/abuse.

For this episode, we got to speak with Robin Dreeke, a 29 year veteran of federal service, including …

Episode 73: Vishing with Curt Klump

August 23rd, 2021


For this episode, we talk voice phishing, or vishing, with Curt Klump. Curt is a hacker with Social Engineer, LLC and he gets to hack people simply by calling them on the phone. We got to talk with Curt about how he …

Episode 72: Onderdompelen with Technisette

August 16th, 2021


For this episode, we are joined by Lisette Abercrombie, probably better known as Technisette. She is a Dutch OSINT investigator and one of the …

Episode 71: The Art of Attack with Maxie Reynolds

August 9th, 2021


For this episode, we get to talk with Maxie Reynolds about her new book, "The Art of Attack: Attacker Mindset for Security Professionals". She talks …

Episode 70: The OSINT Dojo with Sinwindie

August 2nd, 2021


For this episode, we get to talk with Sinwindie. He got his start in law enforcement, learning tools of the trade in open source investigations. …

Episode 69: Natalia Antonova - GeoLocation Challenges and Keeping Safe Online

July 26th, 2021


For this episode, we hear from Natalia Antonova, a journalist, a researcher and an OSINTer. She frequently posts on Substack at

Episode 68: Kate Kelley - The Photo Angel

July 19th, 2021


In this episode, we talk with Kate Kelley, also known as The Photo Angel. Kate connects old photos with relatives of those in the photo. She uses …

Episode 67: "Lead with What Makes You Good" by Charles Hein Wroth

July 12th, 2021


In this episode, we speak with @AngusRedBlue, Charles Hein Wroth. Charles founded and is a technical recruiter, but not your typical recruiter. Charles is a technical recruiter who understands the technical …

Episode 66: Micah Hoffman - His Origins in Infosec and in OSINT

July 6th, 2021


Micah Hoffman, known as WebBreacher on Twitter is a pioneer in the OSINT field. He created his own company, Spotlight Infosec, he created and teaches SANS 487: Open Source Intelligence Gathering and Analysis and also …

Episode 65: ILFest with Shane McCombs, Mandy Cox and John McCombs

June 28th, 2021


The second annual ILFest will begin at 11 am US ET on July 10th and available on In this episode, we hear from Shane, Mandy and John about …

Episode 64: The Sweet Old Lady and the Devil by Sam Moses

June 21st, 2021


We are joined by our good friend, Sam Moses, who generally goes by Moses. He tells us two stories of phishing and vishing engagements. He talks about the OSINT he performed and shows its value. He takes us through the …

Episode 63: Joe Gray's Book Release - Practical Social Engineering

June 14th, 2021


For this episode, we talk with Joe Gray, also known as @C_3PJoe on Twitter. His web site is, a destination for OSINT and social engineering training. Joe is an accomplished conference speaker …

Episode 62: Jonathan Younie - Social Engineering from a CISO's Point of View

June 7th, 2021


On this episode, we talked with Jonathan Younie, aka @InfosecCanuck. Younie is a CISO for a financial services firm and a social engineer. He talks with us about his experience at the recent Human Hacking Conference, …

Episode 61: Polarisu Solves the OSINT Challenge

May 31st, 2021


On April 3, we re-shared a photo from a friend of a building and asked "Where is this?" People from literally around the world began searching, and …

Episode 60: Breaking Into Buildings with Crystal

May 24th, 2021


For this episode, Crystal aka UnluckyNum7 joins us to talk about her methods and strategy for bypassing security controls to access buildings. She …

Episode 59: Twig - Identifying Locks and Vishing Her Targets

May 17th, 2021


For this episode, we welcome our friend Twig. Twig is a member of IBM’s X-Force Red and a social engineer. She tells us about a lock identification …

Episode 58: Siobhan Kelleher - "Be Stubborn and Want to Learn"

May 10th, 2021


For this episode, we're joined by Siobhan Kelleher, also known as @Secure_Coffee. Siobhan's day job is in higher ed but she got introduced to OSINT by joining in to a Trace Labs Capture the Flag competition at the 2019 …

Episode 56: Michele Stuart - Evolution of OSINT Tools and Talking Her Way Into a Super Bowl Party

April 26th, 2021


For this episode, we speak with Michele Stuart of JAG Investigations. Michele is a social engineer and OSINT investigator. She also offers training on her strategies and techniques. Michele tells us about the OSINT …

Episode 55: Magic and Social Engineering with Lee Anderson, Richard Davy and Chris Kirsch

April 19th, 2021


For this episode, we speak with three social engineers who are also hobbyists in the art of magic. Magic is often about deception, distraction and sleight of hand techniques. We'll talk with Lee, Richard and Chris about …

Episode 54: Searching the Dark Net with Levitannin

April 12th, 2021


What is the dark net, the dark web, the clear web and the differences between them? For this episode, we'll hear some fun stories from Levitannin, an …

Episode 52: Tokyo_v2 - Anonymous Reviews Might Not Be So Anonymous

March 29th, 2021


For this episode, we welcome our friend Tokyo. Tokyo is a member of Team Searchlight community, and is the author of many blog posts on OSINT …

Episode 51: Stefanie LaHart - The Defcon Social Engineering Capture the Flag Experience

March 22nd, 2021


For this episode, we hear from Stefanie LaHart. Stefanie is an expert social media strategist and podcaster who has competed in the Defcon social engineering capture the flag competition twice! She tells us how she got …

Episode 50: BOsintBlanc - Let's Talk Methodology

March 15th, 2021


For this episode, we welcome BOsintBlanc. He loves to use OSINT tools and loves to help others with their OSINT skills. But there's one thing that …

Episode 49: Nicole Beckwith - Going Undercover for Roses and the PornHub Interview

March 8th, 2021


For this episode, we welcome Nicole Beckwith. Nicole is a Staff Cyber Intel Analyst with GE Aviation. She previously worked in law enforcement and …

Episode 48: Phillip Wylie - Pwn School, Pentester Blueprint, and Wrestling a Bear!

March 1st, 2021


In this episode, we talk with Phillip Wylie. Phillip is a former professional wrestler turned hacker and now teacher, and an ambassador to the Innocent Lives Foundation. Please donate today on Phillip's page! Phillip …

Episode 47: Deviant Ollam - The Covert Entry Specialist

February 22nd, 2021


For this episode, we speak with @DeviantOllam who runs both the Core Group and Red Team Alliance. Deviant is also the author of two books, Practical …

Episode 46: Ryan MacDougall and Curt Klump - Using OSINT to Get the Win!

February 15th, 2021


For this episode, we talk with Ryan MacDougall, the Chief Operating Officer at and Curt Klump, a Human Risk Analyst, also at They tell two stories of using OSINT during social …

Episode 45: Zlata Pavlova - Доверяй, но проверяй

February 8th, 2021


Доверяй, но проверяй - Doveryai, No Proveryai (Trust, but verify)
For this episode, we welcome Zlata Pavlova aka @3latka_ on Twitter. By day, Zlata works with InGuardians but she is also working with OSINT and social …

Episode 44: Jon Nichols and John Kirbow - PsyOps and Disinformation Campaigns

February 1st, 2021


For this episode, we talk with Jon Nichols, aka @WVUAlphaSoldier and @JohnKirbow, two men trained by the US military in psychological operations and …

Episode 43: Benjamin Strick - OSINT Takedown of West Papua Disinformation

January 25th, 2021


For this episode, we welcome Benjamin Strick, also known as BenDoBrown on Twitter. Ben tells us of an investigation that he published for Bellingcat where he was seeing contrasting information coming from Indonesia …

Episode 42: Edward Miro - Social Rideshare Experience and Hacking Your Own Brain

January 18th, 2021


We welcome Edward Miro to this week's episode. You can find his work on YouTube at or his own site,

Episode 41: Leon Johnson and Shane Young - Pwning the Check Casher

January 11th, 2021


Two expert social engineers, Leon (“sho_luv“) Johnson and Shane (“t1d3nio“) Young are assigned to infiltrate a financial institution. In this episode, they tell us how they went on the roof, to the basement, got into …

Episode 40: Hakeem Thomas - The Unredaction Expert

January 4th, 2021


Hakeem Thomas tells us about his start in OSINT, beginning with a Capture the Flag competition where he got a simple, helpful tip that led him in a …

Episode 39: Jenny Radcliffe - The Cat and the Cake (and the Open Window)

December 28th, 2020


We get to talk with social engineer and fellow podcaster Jenny Radcliffe as she tells us a couple great stories. The first story is one that she has …

Episode 38: Tigran Terpandjian - The Experience Catch-22

December 21st, 2020


We have Tigran Terpandjian, also known as Th3CyF0x talking to us about how he also faced the common Catch-22 of needing experience to get a job, but how do you get the experience without a job. He talks about the …

Episode 37: Billy and Vache - Flair Bartending and SE

December 14th, 2020


This is an interview episode with Billy (@fuzzy_logic) Boatright and Vache (@flying.v) Manoukian. These guys are social engineers and flair bartenders. During this interview, Billy and Vache talk about how quickly the …

Episode 36: Inês Narciso - Teamwork Makes Dreamwork

December 7th, 2020


Our friend, Inês Narciso talks about how to best use multi-disciplinary teams to be most efficient during OSINT and social engineering …

Episode 35: Joshua Richards - Buying/Selling Body Parts on the Dark Web

November 30th, 2020


Joshua Richards, is also known as AccessOSINT on twitter and can be found as an administrator on the Searchlight Discord server. Josh was doing a little searching on the dark web one day and found someone looking to …

Episode 34: Shelby Dacko - ScaryLilHuman in the Trash Chute

November 23rd, 2020


For this episode, Shelby Dacko, also known as @ScaryLilHuman tells us how she got started as a social engineer, and also about one engagement where the team was running into roadblocks. That is, until they discovered …

Episode 33: MangoPDF - The "Don't Get Arrested Challenge"

November 16th, 2020


MangoPDF, also known as Alex Hope is from Australia. One day, a friend asked him what information can he get from a simple boarding pass. With this, the "Don't Get Arrested" challenge began. What information can one …

Episode 32: Marina Ciavatta - Tropical Spy: Stories And Tricks From Social Engineering

June 29th, 2020


Here is Marina's presentation from the Layer 8 Conference. She did not want the video released but allowed for the audio. 

Episode 31: Joe Gray - His Origins and a Phish

June 29th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Joe Gray, a senior OSINT specialist at QOMPLX, a frequent public speaker at conferences and trainer of OSINT and social engineering. Joe joins us to tell us how he got into the field and how …

Episode 30: Brent White and Tim Roberts

June 22nd, 2020


For this episode, we veer off course again. This time, to talk with Brent White and Tim Roberts from NTT Security and their own site

Episode 29: Social Engineers from Rapid7

June 15th, 2020


For this episode, we talk with three expert social engineers from Rapid7. Leon Johnson, Aaron Herndon and Jonathan Stines will tell us about some of …

Episode 28: Josh (@Baywolf88) Huff

June 1st, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Josh Huff, but you might know him as BayWolf88 on Twitter. He is a member of the OSINTCurious Advisory board and runs …

Episode 27: TrustedSec Social Engineers Ask Me Anything

May 25th, 2020


For this episode, we have another Ask Me Anything treat for you. Today’s guests are four social engineers from TrustedSec. We’ll hear from David …

Episode 26: Krittika Lalwaney - One Woman's Domination in a Male Dominated Field

May 18th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Krittika Lalwaney. Krittika is a red teamer on the offensive security team for Capital One. She is a social engineering capture the flag black badge winner at DerbyCon in 2018. She takes us …

Episode 25: Tracy Z. Maleeff, a.k.a. The InfoSecSherpa

May 11th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Tracy Z. Maleeff, also known as InfosecSherpa. He has a blog set up at and a newsletter at Tracy harkens us back to her presentation from …

Episode 24: OSINT AMA with Noneprivacy and Ding0snax

May 4th, 2020


For this episode, we break our format again and interview two OSINT experts, Francesco Poldi and Jason Edison. Also known as @NonePrivacy and

Episode 23: Amanda Berlin - The $15,000 Teddy Bear

April 27th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Amanda Berlin of Blumira. She is also the CEO of the non-profit organization Mental Health Hackers, and can be found on twitter at InfoSystir. Today, she tells us about a romance scam where …

Episode 22: Derrick Levasseur - Going to College...for the Bust

April 20th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Derrick Levasseur, winner of Big Brother season 16, host of the Discovery ID tv show Breaking Homicide and the author of the best selling book, Undercover Edge, which helps you find your …

Episode 21: Adam Compton - The Ladder and the Big Gulp

April 13th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Adam Compton, a pentester and social engineer for TrustedSec. You can also meet TrustedSec at the Layer 8 Conference, and you can find Adam on twitter at Tatanus. Adam talks about the …

Episode 20: Ritu Gill - Tips and Tricks from OSINTtechniques

April 6th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Ritu Gill, also known as OSINTTechniques on twitter and at First, Ritu helps us to understand the differences between intelligence and data. Then she takes us through …

Episode 19: Jayson E. Street - "One of the Best Stories I Can Tell"

March 30th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Jayson E. Street, VP at SphereNY and will be teaching a two-day course at Blackhat titled “Access Denied - Social …

Episode 18: Christina Lekati - They Never Saw Her Coming

March 23rd, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Christina Lekati, a social engineer and psychologist for Cyber Risk Gmbh in Switzerland. You can find her on twitter at

Episode 17: AMA with Snow and TinkerSec

March 19th, 2020


Warning: Some language used is NSFW or children.
For this episode, we break our format. Usually, we have a social engineer or OSINT investigator on …

Episode 16: Julie Clegg - Top 5 Things Not Seen on Hunted

March 16th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Julie Clegg, the OSINT expert on the United Kingdom-based television show "Hunted". Julie is also putting together …

Episode 15: Cat Murdock - Know Your Name and Bring Snacks

March 9th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Cat Murdock, a security consultant and social engineer from Guidepoint Security. You can find Cat on Twitter at

Episode 14: Dutch_OSINTGuy - Spot the Jihadi

March 2nd, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Nico Dekins, also known as Dutch OSINT Guy and a co-host of the OSINT Curious podcast. You can find Nico on Twitter at Dutch_OSINTGuy. Law enforcement officials in the Netherlands asked him …

Episode 13: Alethe Denis - Social Engineer Your Own Brain

February 24th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Alethe Denis, the founder of Dragonfly Security and the reigning champion of the Defcon social engineering capture the flag competition. This is Alethe’s story of where she came from, how …

Episode 12: Keith Cox - The Value of Flexibility During Vishing

February 17th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Keith Cox, a social engineer and pentester from Rapid7. Keith takes us through a recent vishing engagement and he tells us how sometimes you can learn from the initial calls you make to …

Episode 11: Kirby Plessas - Happy Birthday...or is it?

February 10th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Kirby Plessas, host of the OSINT curious podcast. She is the founder and CEO of the Plessas Experts Network, found at where you can find online training about how to perform …

Episode 10: Marina Ciavatta - Just Ask For Feedback

February 3rd, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Marina Ciavatta, the journalist turned social engineer, from Brazil. Marina describes her first physical social …

Episode 9: Wondersmith Rae - Unraveling an Online Puppy Scam

January 27th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Wondersmith Rae, a professional OSINT investigator who tells us the story of an online puppy scam. This is a story where …

Episode 8: Deveeshree Nayak - Turning a Facebook Feature into a Ticket to Defcon

January 22nd, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Deveeshree Nayak, an educationalist and information security professional where she tells us about how she was able to find weaknesses in Facebook for gathering information on friends of …

Episode 7: Robby Stewart - Sometimes the Client Wins

January 21st, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Robby Stewart, a social engineer and pentester at Rapid7. Robby tells us about a story that we don’t hear that often from social engineers...failure. He explains why some might consider his …

Episode 6: Robby Stewart - How a Social Engineer (Ab)uses Trust

January 20th, 2020


For this episode, we welcome Robby Stewart, a social engineer and pentester at Rapid7. Robby takes us through the first social engineering engagement and the various decisions he needed to make along the way. He also …

Episode 5: Matthias Wilson - Combining OSINT with SE in Germany

January 13th, 2020


For this episode, we have Matthias Wilson, also known as MwOsint on twitter and owner of the site. Matthias is in Germany …

Episode 4: Steve Laura - A Full PSE Walkthrough

January 6th, 2020


For this episode, we have Steve Laura, a social engineer and pentester for Blue Cross Blue Shield. On this longer episode, he takes through the recon, the initial access, his thought process along the way and how he …

Episode 3: Katelyn Bowden - Her First OSINT

December 31st, 2019


For this episode, we have Katelyn Bowden, CEO of the BADASS Army, a non-profit organization dedicated to providing support to victims of revenge porn and image abuse. Katelyn tells us about her first experience with …

Episode 2: Katelyn Bowden - Taking Down a Criminal

December 31st, 2019


For this episode, we have Katelyn Bowden, CEO of the BADASS Army, a non-profit organization dedicated to providing support to victims of revenge porn and image abuse. Katelyn tells us about how her organization works …

Episode 1: Trevor O'Donnal - Rapport Building with Vishing

December 17th, 2019


For our first episode, we have Trevor O’Donnal from Rapid7. Trevor tells us about a particularly difficult social engineering engagement where he …

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