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Lawyers Gone Ethical

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How do lawyers function in today’s changing legal market without running afoul of the ethics rules? What must lawyers include in their social media profiles and posts? How technologically competent must a lawyer be? How secure must lawyers keep client data? Can lawyers accept credit cards or cry… read more


The Ethics of Law Practice Systems and Project Management With John Grant [LGE 050]

Technology is pulling lawyers and law practices into the modern age but how can you, as a lawyer and business owner, use technology to improve your practice management while remaining compliant with the ethics rules? Along with using technology, how can you apply project management concepts to improve your business?

I’m joined by John Grant, Founder of the Agile Attorney network. John works with lawyers and legal teams, acting as an outside COO to help them uncover new ways of practicing law.  

What We Discuss in This Episode:

  • Why lawyers seek to derive intrinsic value from their practices
  • What the correlation is between the first five rules of the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct and project management?
  • What project management is and how it's applied in a law firm setting
  • The lean startup methodology, the minimum viable product and how lawyers can apply this concept while writing briefs
  • What ethics rules lawyers must be aware of when they’re applying project management methodologies
  • Can certain project management methods improve client-attorney relationships?
  • Can you effectively and competently represent a client when applying lean methodology?
  • How value is determined and measured
  • How your law practice processes evolve the more you test procedures and listen to your clients
  • Should you utilize a quality control checklist when you’re drafting motions or conducting research and if so, what should be included on the list?

Resources Mentioned:

** UPDATED MARCH 2019 – John Grant’s Agile Productivity for Legal Professionals course is now available at

Drive by Daniel Pink

ABA Rules of Professional Conduct Rules 1.1-1.5

The Lean Startup by Eric Ries

Toward an Anthropological Theory of Value by David Graeber

Billie Tarascio - The Lawyerist Podcast interview

Oregon State Bar PLF (Professional Liability Fund)


John’s webinar 

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not to be construed as legal advice specific to your circumstances. If you need help with any legal matters, be sure to consult with an attorney regarding your specific needs.

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