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22 EpisodesProduced by Christa AvampatoWebsite

JoyProject is an interview podcast where all the conversations start with one question to guests, "What brings you joy?"


The Joy of the Unknown with Eric Fisher

Every day the unknown is waiting for us. As much as we plan our lives, the unknown is our constant companion we meet every day. In this wide ranging discussion about joy, faith, and the future, storyteller Eric Fisher takes us through his three tiers of joy and explains how reframing the stories of our past can help us create a brighter, more joyful future.

Topics discussed in this episode:

- The philosophy of joy

- How to reframe our challenges, not only as sole actors, but collectively in community with others

- Building back better after difficult times so that the world is improved for all beings

- The beauty of being able to hold a whole range of disparate emotions at the same time

- The best compliment that anyone can give us when we tell them our stories

- How to look forward to what's next when we're in liminal space

- How Eric's faith helps him to find joy and helps him help others

- How joy can heal us on many levels and bring us closer to one another

- The wish our friend John Bucher has for anyone and everyone who goes through challenges

- Cory Booker's comment about joy on the Senate floor, "You can't steal my joy"

- Eric's business that helps people preserve their life stories

- Eric's three levels of joy that help him find meaning

- The difference between joy and happiness

- Eric's life philosophy rooted in the classical narrative structure of stories

- How joy can and is present in all phases of our story, even and especially conflict

- Making joy in the midst of the experiences we never wanted to have

Links to resources:

- Eric’s storytelling business – Finowr Creations

- Eric on Instagram - @ericfisherofmen

- Christa on Twitter – @christanyc

- Christa on Instagram – @christarosenyc

- Christa on Facebook – @AuthorChrista 

- Christa on Medium – @christaavampato

- Christa’s website –

- The Enneagram Personality Test -

- Enneagram Personality Types -

- STORY Gatherings -

- John Bucher’s website –

About Eric:

Eric Fisher has always had a large imagination and loves good storytelling! In his early years, he expressed these passions through sports and humor with friends. He’s worked several types of jobs and specialized in wellness and coaching for over ten years. He now pursues writing and acting. He’s always dreaming of what’s next. Even now, his life is full of unknowns! He knows he will undoubtedly fail, but he holds hope in every possibility.

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