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Jake and Jonathan

150 EpisodesProduced by Jake Knapp & Jonathan CourtneyWebsite

Jake and Jonathan (formally Product Breakfast Club) is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of "Sprint", has helped companies like Slack, Nest and 23andMe build successful products. Jonathan Courtney, … read more

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48: How to be a Product Leader - SCOTT BELSKY

Jonathan interviews Scott Belsky, founder of Behance and currently Adobe's Chief Product Officer and Executive Vice President of Creative Cloud, and only asks him questions that were sent in by you, the listener! Just kidding, Jonathan selfishly asks Scott questions about building a business and about leadership, because those are the ones most relevant to Jonathan’s current role as a CEO. But he does throw in a product question at the end. So there’s at least one question for everyone! 😝

Here’s how the interview goes in broad strokes:

Jonathan gushes over Scott Belsky. 😍

Scott Belsky on building Behance. 👷‍

How to keep people motivated. EMPATHY! 😌

The line between life and work. 💼

The lows & highs of creating a business & the importance of self-awareness during both. 📈

What do you do when you get the feeling that it’s not going to work out? When do you know when to quit? It’s all about conviction. 🤓

How to deal with distractions? 💩

Who shouldn’t read the Messy Middle? 🛑 📖

What’s more important, ideas or execution? ✨

A book within a book! 🧐

How people are lazy, vain, and selfish. 😬

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰

Links:

ScottBelsky.com

Scott Belsky on Twitter

Scott Belsky on Instagram

BOOK: Making Ideas Happen by Scott Belsky

BOOK: The Messy Middle by Scott Belsky

99u.com

Behance.net

AskGaryVee 290: Scott Belsky on Starting Behance, Perseverance in Business, & the “Messy Middle”

The Tim Ferriss Show: Scott Belsky — How to Conquer the Messy Middle (#336)

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Action Method: A Flexible and Intuitive Project Management System | 2008 | TechCrunch

BOOK: Anything You Want by Derek Sivers

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Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

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