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Jake and Jonathan

150 EpisodesProduced by Jake Knapp & Jonathan CourtneyWebsite

Jake and Jonathan (formally Product Breakfast Club) is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of "Sprint", has helped companies like Slack, Nest and 23andMe build successful products. Jonathan Courtney, … read more


52: Basecamp’s New Book is SAVAAAAAGE!

Jonathan starts with a rambly 4-minute intro that leads into a solocast since Jake’s not here. Jake’s in London doing more important stuff than talking to Jonathan. 🕺🏻

Jonathan talks about Jason Fried and DHH’s new book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work. He even does a dramatic reading of one chapter: Launch and Learn. Jonathan looks up a word in the dictionary. And surprise, surprise, Jonathan disses research again. 📖

Finally, Jonathan asks you for favors! 🙏🏻


Design Matters 

PBC #X: Jason Fried gives us SAVAGE Product Advice

PBC #48: How to be a Product Leader — SCOTT BELSKY

PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency

Jason Fried (Twitter) 

DHH (Twitter) 

BOOK: It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work by Jason Fried and DHH

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Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint 💰

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