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Jake and Jonathan

150 EpisodesProduced by Jake Knapp & Jonathan CourtneyWebsite

Jake and Jonathan (formally Product Breakfast Club) is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of "Sprint", has helped companies like Slack, Nest and 23andMe build successful products. Jonathan Courtney, … read more

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200: This is the Final Episode (really)

October 5th, 2020


Jonathan is back for a final episode. 💦 Season 1 comes to a close. ⛵️ Hot new consoles. 🎮Secret new course..?! 👀

  1. Microsoft acquires Bethesda …

147: Dangling String VERSUS Ditch Witch

September 21st, 2020


Jake’s moving to an Island. 🏝 Digging  ditch witches. 🧙‍♀️ Why don’t schools teach you how to cook? 👨‍🍳1000 reviews of Sprint! 🔥A $100,000 …

146: Boy Meets Frog

September 14th, 2020


Language pet peeves. 🇺🇸 Why Jake is not a great business partner for John. 📈 How Jake REALLY feels about the Design Sprint Masterclass. 😱 Miro vs …

145: Designing a Brand New Business Model: CashDrop CEO Ruben Flores-Martinez

September 7th, 2020


John interviews Ruben Flores-Martinez, CEO of CashDrop. 💸 They talk about innovating on business models. 💡 Creating a mission-driven startup. 🧐 Enabling the next wave of eCommerce. 🛍 And the hidden power of …

144: Boatloads of Trucks Full of Money

August 31st, 2020


Are books really effective in changing behavior and habits? 🐒 What would Jake change about Make Time? 🤔 Should books be evergreen? ☘️What if books …

143: Fortnite vs Apple vs JOHN ZERATSKY

August 24th, 2020


The App Store woes hit John. 🎭 Epic Fortnite drama. 🕺 Make Time app coming…?! ⏰ Can Sprint be too SLOW at times..?! 😱 

  1. Apple's 1984 ad
  2. Fortnite's …

142: Jonathan’s FINALLY Going On Vacation!

August 17th, 2020


Jake & Jonathan discuss charming men. 👱‍♂Jonathan will (get in) touch with himself on vacation. 🤏 Jake chases a mystery smell. 💨 Books. 📚 …

141: Building Your Bigness

August 10th, 2020


Hand condoms. 🧤 Torso condoms. 👕 Jake’s dancing bootcamp. 🕺 Jonathan spends 30k on a secret weapon to build his bigness. 🧠

  1. Toto Japanese Toilets

140: American toilets are STILL a problem

August 3rd, 2020


(Recast) Jake and Jonathan finally get the recognition they deserve by the people at InVision! 😎 A designer-y discuss of toilets. 🚽 How hospitality skills and working in a restaurant make you a better designer. 🤵 …

139: Welcome to the Weather Show!

July 27th, 2020


Rats. 🐀 You’ll get eaten by rats if you don’t register for Jake’s upcoming July 29th bootcamp! 🧀  Hobey Blobbins is killing it. 🕺🏻 German TV is …


July 20th, 2020


How to manage your energy & time like a BOSS. 🕺 Experimenting with Jake-ier online trainings. 👀 Kettlebells. 🎱 Coffee. ☕️ Alcohol. 🍷 People …

137: Apple Design Awards TRIGGER Spiritual Awakening

July 13th, 2020


Is Apple DOOMED..?! ☠️ Quarantine month #4. ☢️ A design review of the new macOS icons. 🎨 Something broke in Jonathan’s brain. 🧠 The curse of the …

136: Facebook Boycott, and Mental Health

July 6th, 2020


Tech politics & big tech. 👻 How AJ&Smart is dealing with the Facebook situation. 🤔Hey vs Superhuman. 🦸‍♂️ What you should do early in your …

135: The Apple Event, Playstation 5, The River Man…

June 29th, 2020


Crotchless shorts. 🩳 Jonathan (re)reads Make Time 📖 and buys a new SECRET domain name. 👀 A recommendation for the best books EVER written for …


June 22nd, 2020


This episode is a replay of an interview from many moons ago, but chances are you haven’t listened to it.  Sarah Cooper is an ex-Google Docs design …

133: So, is Coronavirus done now?

June 15th, 2020


Keyboards. F*#$ racism. Taking time to understand instead of following the crowd. Messages from the future. A special teaser for those who stick to …

132: We Discuss the Current Situation in the U.S.

June 8th, 2020


Jake & Jonathan discuss the current situation in the U.S.

131: Apple Glass Leak REACTION

June 1st, 2020


Trump. Gender politics. Super serious. Secret Apple product LEAK. You are Batman. 🦇

  1. Kevin Rose
  2. Jason Fried
  3. Sarah Cooper
  4. Facebook Says It Will …

130: We react to Twitter going Fully Remote Forever!

May 25th, 2020


There’s an ACTUAL topic this week! 💦 Work from home, the good and the bad. 🏡 Benefits of office work. 🏢 Farts. 💨

  1. Twitter, Square Announce …

129: Sorry, Designers Will Hate This Episode!

May 18th, 2020


Star Wars. 💫 Connection issues. Famous Irish people. ☘️ Life after Corona. 🦠 Gandalf update. 🧙‍♂️ Advice to junior designers. 👶

  1. What life …

128: We Hit 1,000,000 Downloads!

May 11th, 2020


German lockdown is over. 💃 Authenticity over caution. 😌 Why most designers are angry. 😤 Big Gandalf update. 🧙‍♂️ Soaking in the pandemic. 🦠 Fetish dinner. 🍽 Handling layoffs. 😕 And a little bonus at the end. 🎶

127: Why FORTNITE is the Future of Entertainment

May 4th, 2020


Remote school life. 🏫 The glory of being home alone. 🛀 Fortnite. 🔫 Jonathan is (not) sexist. 💁‍♂️ 

  1. Book: The Workshopper Playbook
  2. Travis …

126: This is a Serious Design Podcast

April 27th, 2020


Jonathan is zen. 😌 Jake published a Remote Sprint Guide. ✍️ The economy in times of Corona. 🦠

  1. Book: The Workshopper Playbook
  2. Book: Good …

114: Kevin Rose gives us EPIC Product Advice!

February 3rd, 2020


(Recast of ep.64) This is a big one! This might just be the BEST EPISODE YET!! Why, you ask..? Because Jake & Jonathan are joined by none other than the legendary Kevin Rose. Jonathan doesn’t even bother talking for …

113: Design Sprint IS LIFE

January 27th, 2020


Jake’s back! Cat tongues are disgusting. Please listen to this podcast naked. Gandalf update. 🧙‍♂️

  1. Check out Jake’s upcoming workshops 🔥
  2. Make …

112: Facebook’s SHOCKING Tech Prediction For 2030

January 20th, 2020


Jonathan takes you on another LonelyCast today. Yoga class update. 🧘‍♂️ How the Strategy Sprint works. 🔥 Zuck is a genius. And how people you hate …

111: Introverts VS Extroverts

January 13th, 2020


Is being an introvert better for designers..?! And, what’s a Strategy Sprint..? Also, some crazy tech from CES. An embarrassing yoga experience. One …

110: The FINAL Gandalf Update of 2019

December 23rd, 2019


Very holidays! Jonathan reads listener emails to Jake—or tries too. He’s drunk. Some good o’l career advice. A special call-in from a special …

109: The BEST of EVERYTHING 2019

December 16th, 2019


You have a problem in your mouth. Jonathan’s wife hurt her tail in a fight. Jake’s cat is high on drugs and walking backwards.


Best Fiction Books

108: Product Awards 2019

December 9th, 2019


Saggy Balls Awards. Gandalf Award. Deep Impact Award. Aaaaaand Product of the Yearrrrr!!

  1. The Legend of Zelda™: Link’s Awakening
  2. Nintendo Switch


December 2nd, 2019


Nintendo’s Ring. Tesla’s Cybertruck. Cute baby vomit. Ganalf awards. People fun.

  1. Nintendo Ring Fit Adventure
  2. Half-life 3 Trailer
  3. Cybertruck
  4. Death …

106: Apple’s Secret New 2023 Product LEAKS!

November 25th, 2019


BLACK FRIDAY SALE! Go to to get a 53% discount on the official Design Sprint course made by Jake & Jonathan themselves! 🤑

Jake and Jonathan talk about how they’ve been moaning for months. Jonathan has …

105: Airpods Pro VS Mother’s Milk

November 18th, 2019


Jake and Jonathan talk talk about coughing while flying business class and getting results from your coughs. Jake is in Barcelona and doesn’t want to …

104: Jake & Jonathan LIVE from New York City

November 11th, 2019


MERCH! Get your t-shirt here: Jake and Jonathan talk talk about…nothing in specific really.😅 But that’s what the podcast is about anyway, right..?! Enjoy! 😘

P.S. If you really want to …

103: You need to have this Mindset to Succeed

November 4th, 2019


MERCH! Get your t-shirt here: Jake and Jonathan talk about the abundance mindset_and why it makes business sense in the longterm. Also, designers with a scarcity mindset won’t get very …

102: Jonathan is NOT happy today!

October 28th, 2019


Jake and Jonathan talk about how babies suck but they’re a good investment. Jonathan talks astrophysics. Jake tells Jonathan how to get out of funk. …

101: Amazon’s Vibrating Ring

October 21st, 2019


New MERCH is here! Get your limited-time time tee now. 1000 sticks. Jake and Jonathan talk about cooking robots, funny videos, and how designers can …

100: How To Be Less Stressed

October 14th, 2019


WE MADE IT! Episode 100! First, a celebration is in order! 🎊 Then we find out Jake is a control freak. Then Jonathan teaches Jake about the power of …

99: This Skill is a KILLER Career Booster!

October 7th, 2019


Jake and Jonathan talk about one of their favorite books of all time! A book that will give a KILLER career boost! But before that, they talk about Jake’s sensitive area, motivation swings, Gandalf favorite moments. …

98: This Design Trend has to STOP!

September 30th, 2019


What’s a Hobbit? Wolves have meetings? Does Gandalf actually do REAL magic? Oh and Jonathan talks about the BEST PRODUCT HE’S EVER USED. Jake and …

97: iPhone 11 XR Pro Max 2 (RED)

September 23rd, 2019


Jake & Jonathan talk about stuff! What stuff? Well, in this episode it starts with a quick review of Superhuman, then it goes on to talk about Annoying Humans: babies! Jonathan wants the crack the code of …

96: Superhuman VS Gmail - Design Review

September 16th, 2019


Welcome to the first episode of JAKE AND JONATHAN! The change in name symbolizes a change in focus since most episode didn’t include much product …

95: This is the Final Episode of PBC

September 9th, 2019


It's been a fun ride! But all good things come to an end. Kind of. Jake and Jonathan have some important announcements to make in this episode. Tune …

94: Jason Fried gives us AMAZING Product Advice! (PBC REWIND)

September 2nd, 2019


(Rewind Episode) Jake and Jonathan interview a designer they both idolize: Jason Fried, co-founder of Basecamp. They go deep on Jason's tweet on the …

93: A New Book We Love!

August 26th, 2019


BOOKS! Well, just the one book, really. Jake and Jonathan talk about an underrated, under-the-radar book that you should read. Jonathan gives a …

92: This is Definitely Still a Product Podcast

August 19th, 2019


Strap in for another glorious ramblefest! Jake and Jonathan read some iTunes reviews MAYBE INCLUDING YOURS! Jonathan is bored. Again! Jake's Qi is …

91: BEST OF PBC - Silicon Valley’s Top Leadership Coach: KIM SCOTT

August 12th, 2019


This week's episode is a rebroadcast of Jonathan's interview with his favorite author Kim Scott, Founder of Candor Inc. & CEO coach for some of …

90: Gandalf’s Hot Sales Funnel

August 5th, 2019


Jake and Jonathan discuss the most important topic & figure in the design world—GANDALF—is he the Gray? Is he the White..? Does he actually have …

89: Invision Hates This Podcast

July 29th, 2019


Jake and Jonathan finally get the recognition they deserve by the people at InVision---with an asterisk, though! Among other stuff, Jake & Jonathan discuss toilets (again!), how hospitality skills and working in a …

88: BEST OF PBC - Jon and Jake do New York (Rewind!)

July 22nd, 2019


This episode is a re-release of previous episode. Chances are you haven't heard it because it's from ages ago. And even if you did, it's a really fun one and you probably already forgot all the good stuff that was in …

BONUSODE: From Early Google Designer to VC to Founder, with Braden Kowitz

July 17th, 2019


Jake interviews Braden Kowitz, product designer and startup founder, who co-authored Sprint alongside Jake and John Zeratsky. He's also the BEST interaction designer Jake has ever worked with! 🔥They talk about design, …

87: Dealing with feeling lost and alone

July 15th, 2019


Do you want to hang out with Jake and Jonathan on July 15 in SF..?! Sure you do! So make sure you keep an eye on Jonathan's Instagram and

86: Jony Ive’s Rejected Toilet

July 8th, 2019


Strap in for the longest intro ever---you're gonna love it! Jake & Jonathan eventually discuss Jony Ive's departure from Apple, but before that, they talk about being late, picking brains, career ladders, and other …

85: Making the Playdate Games Console with Greg Maletic (from Panic!)

July 1st, 2019


Jake & Jonathan bombard Greg Maletic from Panic with questions about Panic's Playdate adorable little game console, Panic, Greg's background, and …

BONUSODE: 14 ways an economist says “I Love You” with Liz Fosslien

June 26th, 2019


Jake interviews Liz Fosslien, co-author and illustrator of No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotions at Work.


84: Don’t Underestimate Facebook!

June 24th, 2019


Jake & Jonathan go over Facebook's new crypto announcements, how they feel about them, and where they think it's all going! Should people care …

83: Is this the Worst Product Ever Made?

June 17th, 2019


Jonathan is alone. Again! Because Jake couldn't record with him before Jonathan's bed time. 👶 Jonathan reviews a product that he HATED. Turns out …

82: The new Mac Pro has WHEELS hahaha!

June 10th, 2019


Jonathan does a solo deep dive on all the new announcements from Apple that came out of WWDC 2019!

  1. How To Run & Sell Design Sprints Like …

81: The Secret Product Trick NO ONE WILL EVER TELL YOU ABOUT... except us

June 3rd, 2019


Jake & Jonathan go on a Play Date, literally not figuratively. Jonathan likes products that are made by teenagers---if they are also engineers. …

80: This is a Serious Problem (not clickbait)

May 27th, 2019


Strap in for silly one! If you love Jake & Jonathan rambling about nothing in particular, this one is for you! Reviews make Jake cry. Jonathan …

79: No, “Empathy” won’t solve all your design problems

May 20th, 2019


Tim & Amr are filling in for Jake & Jonathan this week—which means you'll actually get to listen to an episode related to the product world (

78: 4 Product Books you HAVEN’T read

May 13th, 2019


Jake & Amr talk about some books. Jake talks about books that influenced the idea that would later be part of the Design Sprint. How non-design …

77: $32 Million Website Redesign OOPSIE BOO BOO

May 6th, 2019


Jake & Jonathan talk about the messiness of gigantic projects in the design world and how they're set up to fail from the start, all in the …

76: We were WRONG about VR

April 29th, 2019


The podcast is back to normal this week. Which means there’s a whole lot of rambling and very little structure. Jonathan gives a few updates on his …

75: How to Found a Startup and Sell it to Google

April 22nd, 2019


Jake interviews ex-Googler Xander Pollock—one of the first people to run sell Design Sprints outside Google. They cover a bunch of topics, such as:

74: Design Ruined Everything

April 14th, 2019


Jonathan's not here this week. So Jake is joined by Amr from AJ&Smart. Deja vu, anyone?

Here’s a peek at the topics discussed in this episode:

73: Steve Jobs VS Steve Ballmer (not clickbait)

April 8th, 2019


Jake’s not here this week. So Jonathan is joined by Amr from AJ&Smart to talk about a little more about Apple (since they had their media event a couple weeks back); compare Apple’s leadership with Microsoft’s; and …

72: Inside My Dirty Airpods

April 1st, 2019


Jake & Jonathan finally discuss Apple on the podcast for the FIRST TIME EVER! It’s weird how they’ve never covered Apple before—given Apple’s importance in the product space. But anyway, it’s here now! Enjoy!

Here’s …

71: Mona Patel on How to find your Dream Mentor

March 25th, 2019


All-time favorite guest Mona Patel—Founder & CEO of Motivate Design—is back to chat with Jonathan in another AMAZING episode! This is a really fun episode that’s also PACKED with great advice. Some of the topics …

70: Facebook’s VP of Product Design JULIE ZHUO

March 18th, 2019


How often do you get the chance to listen to the VP of Facebook, Julie Zhuo, talk about her work..?!? (Crickets) Yeah, we thought so. That’s why we …

69: You Don’t Always Have to Be Happy

March 11th, 2019


Jake & Jonathan go into deep topics in this one! 🍆 But before they do, Jonathan does a victory dance 💃 because he won a certain bet. 🤑 Then they dive into the deep stuff, talking about motivation, human nature, …

68: 10 Most Innovative Companies 2019

March 4th, 2019


Jonathan and Tim sit down to discuss the top 10 most innovative companies of 2019! Who’s Tim, you ask? Good question. They go through the top 10 one by one and discuss what they think of these companies and their …

67: Let’s talk about Innovation (with Jason Feifer)

February 25th, 2019


Another week, another Jake-less episode. In this one, Jonathan interviews Jason Feifer, Editor in Chief at Entrepreneur Magazine. Jason also has 2 …

66: The Future of Podcasts (toilet edition)

February 18th, 2019


For those of you poor souls who subscribed to this podcast hoping to hear intelligent discussions about the product world, you’ve probably noticed …

65: PBC Product Awards 2019

February 11th, 2019


People. Naked people. Naked people running in the street. Naked people in the sauna. Jonathan naked in a sauna. 16 minutes of that. Then awards. 2018 awards. But not necessarily for stuff that came out in
It’s a fun …

64: Kevin Rose gives us EPIC Product Advice!

February 4th, 2019


This is a big one! This might just be the BEST EPISODE YET!! Why, you ask..? Because Jake & Jonathan are joined by none other than the legendary Kevin Rose. Jonathan doesn’t even bother talking for most of the …

63: Growth Hacking and Design Sprints Make Love

January 28th, 2019


Fish burning. 🐟 Dog barking. 🐶 Jonathan is doing a Growth Sprint Workshop?! That's not all. He's also leaving money on the table. It's right there. Yes, that table. It's your if you want it. 🤑 Babies are dogs. Or …

62: Let's Talk Product Strategy

January 21st, 2019


Jake & Jonathan kick-off the first episode of the new year by diving straight into prod… no, they start by rambling for a good long while. But it’s good rambling: new year goals, journaling, setting OKRs, and …

60: Life Lessons Learned (2018)

December 24th, 2018


Strap in for the end of the year extravaganza! The episode, appropriately, starts off with favorite breakfast sandwiches of
🥪 Jake and Jonathan …

59: Berlin vs Silicon Valley (5-star episode)

December 17th, 2018


Jake & Jonathan are back together in this one. Amdist all the interviews this year, it’s like a special episode when Jake & Jonathan actually talk to each other! In this one, they read listener email… Everyone …


December 10th, 2018


Baby popped out! 👶🏻 She’s cute. 😍 A guy is chased by a tiger then he dies. ☠️

Jake interviews Andri Kristinsson. Andri is the founder of Travelade and Icelandic Startups, and is a guest lecturer at Reykjavik …

57: Inside LEGO with design leader Tara Wike

December 3rd, 2018


Jonathan has moved on. Jakes interviews tara wike, Senior Design Manager at LEGO, the wooden toys company, and manages LEGO Ideas. Jakes asks Tara about her move to Denmark. Learning Danish. æ ø å. Eating a hot dog …

56: Best Books 2018

November 26th, 2018


Happy podbirthday! 🎉 It’s the podcast’s 1 year birthday. 👶🏻

Help the podcast get to 10,000 listeners by sharing it on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and rating it on iTunes (click here to go to the iTunes Store and …

55: Design Sprints DON’T WORK! (not clickbait)

November 19th, 2018


Jake & Jonathan finally reveal that the Design Sprint has been one gigantic SCAM! It’s crazy how the book sold so much and how much money …

54: How To Control Your STUPID Face

November 12th, 2018



Ok, back to normal now. Please only continue if you’ve bought a t-shirt. How many did you buy..?! We love you all. But we love the ones who bought the …

53: How to Design Non-Sh**t Conferences with ANDY BUDD

November 5th, 2018


Jonathan interviews Andy Budd, co-founder of Clearleft and the man behind popular design conferences like UX London and Leading Design. Jonathan asks …

52: Basecamp’s New Book is SAVAAAAAGE!

October 29th, 2018


Jonathan starts with a rambly 4-minute intro that leads into a solocast since Jake’s not here. Jake’s in London doing more important stuff than …

51: When Being LAZY is SMART!

October 22nd, 2018


This episode starts off with a very subtle ad, that’s not at all in-your-face. Also, it’s not sponsored by Squarespace or Zip Recruiter. It’s important that you know that. Some of the things Jake & Jon talk about in …

50: FIFTY?! 💦🦔

October 15th, 2018


The podcast is 50, so it’s officially a middle-aged rambly guy! 👴🏻 There’s someone in Jake’s background, who suddenly takes over from Jake. He also invented the Design Sprint. Maybe it’s just Jake doing a French …

49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency

October 8th, 2018


Jonathan interviews Mona Patel, who really makes Jonathan look like a boring, lazy person in comparison. Mona is the founder of 3 companies: Motivate Design, UX Hires, and Insider Insight. Aaaand she’s the author of

48: How to be a Product Leader - SCOTT BELSKY

October 1st, 2018


Jonathan interviews Scott Belsky, founder of Behance and currently Adobe's Chief Product Officer and Executive Vice President of Creative Cloud, and only asks him questions that were sent in by you, the listener! Just …

47: Big Product Decisions: Gut Feeling or Test?

September 24th, 2018


Jonathan is famous and get recognized while holding underwear. 👙

Jake's new book Make Time is coming out tomorrow! 🔥📖🔥

Jake and Jonathan discuss …

46: Silicon Valley’s Top CEO/Leadership Coach: KIM SCOTT

September 17th, 2018


This week Jonathan interviews his favorite Author Kim Scott, Founder of Candor Inc. & CEO coach for some of Silicon Valley's biggest companies. …

45: Apple is DOOMED! iPhone XS, Watch Series 4 LEAKED

September 10th, 2018


This week something cool is about to drop… and it’s not the theme tune to Fragil Rock. It’s that time for Apple’s special event - 2018. The …

44: Growing USTWO + The Future of Creative Business with Jules Ehrhardt

September 3rd, 2018


Ever wanted to hear from a creative design business master???

Well, today is another very special episode. This time Jonathan interviews Jules …

43: BONUSODE - How to Make Better Use of Your Time

August 27th, 2018


This week is a little different from our usual, Jonathan couldn't make it. So instead Jake is bringing you and interview from another show that he's …

42: Why the Best Products Come From Silicon Valley

August 20th, 2018


What's the difference between working as a designer in Silicon Valley and the rest of the world.... Well, the water closet for sure!

Jonathan and Jake chat about;

• Working for big Silicon Valley companies,
• How to …

41: BEST Books for Product People (Not Sponsored by Squarespace)

August 13th, 2018


Jonathan and Jake cozy up in an hotel room together, eating some breakfast in bed like Bert and Erni would be proud of! Talking with a mouth full, …

40: Design Career Booster 2018 with Ran Segall

August 6th, 2018


What does a 300,000 dollar a year designer do to earn that much money...? Well Jonathan has a chat with one. This weeks episode is with Ran Segall …

39: Jake and Jonathan REUNITED - Ramblefest

July 30th, 2018


This Episode.... Yes, THIS EPISODE, is the BEST episode... So much in this episode, You'll learn lot's of things, soooo many things!

Side note - If you take something from this episode, please let us know cause we have …

38: Do you have to be Charismatic/Extroverted to run a Sprint?

July 23rd, 2018


In this mini episode Jake answers another interesting question that was asked in the masterclass this week. A question about how charismatic or extroverted do you need to be to run a Sprint workshop ( Sprint). …

37: Design Sprints for Complex Enterprise/B2B Products

July 16th, 2018


How messy can you get? In this mini ep Jake answers a difficult but super interesting question that came up in the masterclass this week. A question …

36: Is User Research Important?

July 9th, 2018


During the recording of one of our masterclass workshops, we thought we'd address a really important question that pops up time and time again in our Facebook group and at our workshops; Is user research important when …

35: How to Scale Design Sprints in Organisations

July 2nd, 2018


Jonathan does another lonely cast today, Jake couldn't join us unfortunately. Jonathan talks about how he scales design sprints across multiple big …

34: Should I Go To College?

June 25th, 2018


Jonathan and Jake answer a listeners question about the value of formal education, while exploring what good and bad things they took away from going …

33: This Episode is Free!

June 18th, 2018


Jonathan is back from vacation and happy that it's gaming conference season. He and Jake chat about monetisation of apps and when or not it's important to release free stuff, also a few book recommendations for your …

32: Jake Goes Solo & Checks Out Apple's Updates

June 11th, 2018


In this episode Jake Knapp takes on his very first 'SoloCast'. Carrying on from episode 30, where we looked at Google's Digital Well Being …

31: Annihilation (Book Review) FRIDAY FUNAST!

June 8th, 2018


Do you know that terrible Netflix movie with Natalie Portman – Annihilation? Well it’s actually an awesome book that you have to read. A bit …

30: Google Beats Apple to Digital Well Being

June 4th, 2018


Google get’s ahead of Apple by releasing SOME... (probably should be more) digital health clean-ups. We talk GDPR and more while Jonathan dies of …

29: Bats. Everywhere. FRIDAY FUNCAST!

June 1st, 2018


We missed a mainline episode this week due to bad planning BUT DO NOT FEAR because here's a Friday Funcast!

Also, Jake messed up the audio.

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28: How To Deal With Doubt

May 23rd, 2018


How do you know if you're on the right path in your career? What do you do when you start to doubt yourself or feel like you're on the wrong path? Jake and Jonathan discuss this AND MORE in this week's HORRIBLY RECORDED …

27: The Best Career Advice 2018

May 14th, 2018


What's the best possible career advice I can give you in May 2018? Well, here it is! Lemme know if you liked it on social! (@jicecream)

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26: Sarah Cooper - How to Quit Google (Interview)

May 7th, 2018


An interview with the amazing Sarah Cooper, an ex-Google Docs design lead and super talented comedian!

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25: Friday Funcast - Soy Sauce Splash!

May 4th, 2018


Uploading this episode in Copenhagen airport, laughing to myself like an idiot.

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24: "Alexa, open my burns"

April 30th, 2018


It's a day late, but you know what they say:

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23: FRIDAY FUNCAST - Jon & Jake's Emoji Showdown

April 27th, 2018



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22: GMAIL REDESIGN LEAK + Can popular products really take risks?

April 23rd, 2018


Product breakfast club, product breakfast club! This week we dive deep and dirty into Google I/O leaks. I/O is only 20 days away and already we're …

21: What's so special about Silicon Valley?

April 16th, 2018


The title kinda says it all here. Jake and Jonathan discuss their first trips to Silicon Valley and chat about some misconceptions and stuff, …

20: FRIDAY FUNCAST - Jonathan smashes his tailbone.

April 13th, 2018


Jonathan had a little accident and apparently you need to hear about it asap. Regular programming returns Monday.

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19: Are the designers at Facebook bad people? (+Instagram Buttwave!)

April 9th, 2018


British accents, Instagram butts and more deep-cut innovation topics. (Oh, and we talk about design products to be addictive).

PLEASE... please.... if you like the podcast, give it a 5 Star rating on itunes/Apple …

18: McKinsey are selling Design Sprints?!!??!!?

April 2nd, 2018


Workshop Offer-code in description below McKinsey, one of the largest, most important consulting firms on the planet, announce that they're going to …

17: How LEGO run Design Sprints at scale - Interview with Eik Brandsgård

March 26th, 2018


Ever wondered if Design Sprints would work in a large-scale corporation? Wonder no more! Seriously, stop, please!!!!! This week Jonathan had the …

16: From Selling Fish in Ireland to Starting a Design Agency - FOUNDERCAST

March 19th, 2018


This week, Jake interviews Jonathan on how he went from being a guy selling fish in Ireland to running a succesful design agency. I know, I know... …

15: INNOVATION! What Really Matters?

March 2nd, 2018


Our shortest episode ever! Recorded Live in Stockholm, Sweden after a Design Sprint Workshop. Have a listen in on our only slightly drunken rant …

14: The Golden Age of UX is Over - Being a Product Designer in 2018

February 23rd, 2018


The Golden Age of UX is over, so what can designers do to stay valuable while supply reaches demand levels? What should companies hiring designer be …

13: Juicy Design Sprint Updates for 2018 - Live Q&A

February 19th, 2018


Jake and Jon jump on a Youtube Live to answer anything people had to ask about Design Sprints. If you're interested in how the Design Sprint has …

#12: How to Build a Crazy-Successful Design Business with Chris Do

February 8th, 2018


Chris Do, the Emmy Award winning designer and CEO of 2 successful design companies came on the PBC podcast! No idea why but it was great!

Chris and …

#11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck + Nintendo Labo!

February 4th, 2018


What's this??! The audio doesn't suck in this episode?! We're like NPR or something!

This episode is all about why Jonathan and Jake think Design Conferences mostly suck. If you thought this episode didn't suck then …

#10: The War on Design Thinking Continues...

January 25th, 2018


If the last episode was "Episode X" then how can this be "Episode 10?!". Well... ask apple! Oh man... we messed up the audio in this one again but next week it'll be amazing.

Does anyone read this? (Lemme know …

#X: Jason Fried gives us SAVAGE Product Advice

January 18th, 2018


We've decided to take a leaf from Apple's book and skip the number "9" for this momentous episode! Jason Fried gives amazing product advice to sub-humans Jonathan and Jake. That's it! Do people actually read this bit?

#8: How to Make Better Decisions, Faster

January 8th, 2018


Having systems for making decisions is one of the best ways to make sure your team or business doesn't end up arguing over which chairs to buy when …

#7 Bonusode: DESIGN SPRINT OVERLOAD - Live from the AJ&Smart office

December 30th, 2017


Rancid Audio Warning! It's the day before 2018 and we're here to hit you with a BONUS episode of the PBC podcast!!! This one is an amazing, deep-dive into all things Design Sprint. The (terrible) audio is taken from a …

#6 Best of Everything: 2017 Edition

December 21st, 2017


In this episode of Product Breakfast Club, Jake and Jon talk about how to get the most out of what you read, Jon's return to UI design (it's been a while!) & the big changes in design in 2017! Don’t forget to …

#5: When is a product really "ready"? Jason Fried tweet storm special.

December 14th, 2017


In this episode of Product Breakfast Club, Jake and Jon talk about the Design Sprint! But more specifically the process of iterating a product, what …

#4 Creativity as a process: How to structure your creative process to maximise output

December 4th, 2017


The guys are back for another Product Breakfast Club! The Design Sprint duo discuss Jon’s recent “career highlight” trip to San Francisco, techniques for not swearing during high level business presentations & the …

#3 Why relying on user research will slow the growth of your products

December 4th, 2017


Hello & welcome to The Product Breakfast Club podcast by AJ&Smart. It’s episode 3! This episode Jake & Jon get right into it discussing some of the misconceptions people have about the Design Sprint touching …

#2 What makes a good Design Leader and why are Apple still so relevant in the design world?

December 4th, 2017


What is The Product Breakfast Club? The Product Breakfast Club is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of “Sprint”, has …

#1 Innovation Fetish: Why the definition of Innovation needs to change

November 30th, 2017


In the first ever episode of The Product Breakfast Club, with Jonathan Courtney, co-founder of AJ&Smart and Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of "Sprint", we dive into some pretty heavy product design …

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