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It's Not Just In Your Head

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Two mental health professionals explore how our capitalist economic system impacts our emotional lives. From precarious housing and employment, to unaffordable healthcare, to endless debt -- it's not just in your head! Support this podcast:… read more

109 Episodes | 2020 - 2021

Everyday Landlord Terrorism

September 28th, 2021


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#058: America's wretched history and getting "unstuck" (w/ Bob Hennelly)

September 27th, 2021


We interview award-winning investigative journalist Bob Hennelly about his new book "Stuck Nation: Can the United States Change Course on Our History of Choosing Profits Over People?" Learn more about Bob here:

If it doesn't pay it's not worth doing

September 22nd, 2021


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#057: Domestic violence & intergenerational trauma (Liberation Health Case Conceptualization #1)

September 20th, 2021


Some listeners suggested we do some case conceptualizations so we decided to use the liberation health model to conceptualize two past cases we had. We plan to try doing something like this once per month or so. …

Liberation health triangle

September 14th, 2021


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#056: Violence & Conflict Literacy (ft. Bob Hall)

September 13th, 2021


In this episode we learn from Bob Hall about the concept of "conflict literacy" and how it relates to addressing different forms of interpersonal …

Conflict is good

September 7th, 2021


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#055: Is Mindfulness A Capitalist Spirituality? (w/ Dr. Ron Purser)

September 6th, 2021


Ron Purser, Ph.D., author of McMindfulness: How Mindfulness Became the New Capitalist Spirituality, joins us for this episode. We ask him how …

Mindfulness Reinforces The Ideal Neoliberal Subject

August 31st, 2021


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#054: Why Are Millennials "The Therapy Generation"? (ft. Jennifer Silva)

August 30th, 2021


In this episode we interview Prof. Jennifer Silva, author of Coming Up Short: Working-Class Adulthood in an Age of Uncertainty. Silva interviewed 100 …

Is "rugged individualism" a survival strategy?

August 24th, 2021


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#053: Aging Under Capitalism

August 23rd, 2021


Piggybagging off of last week's episode on death, Harriet and Max focus on aging. What's it like to grow older in a capitalist society that devalues …

I'm almost 80

August 17th, 2021


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#052: Death, Marxism & Supernaturalism

August 16th, 2021


Max shares about the recent passing of his estranged father and about some very odd and possibly supernatural experiences surrounding it, as well as …

Death & Family

August 10th, 2021


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#051: Cruel Optimism

August 3rd, 2021


Harriet explains what is cruel about a form of optimism that people internalize which says everything will be fine if they just work hard and follow …

Cruel optimism (teaser)

July 27th, 2021


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#050: The Power Threat Meaning Framework (w/ Dr. Lucy Johnstone)

July 26th, 2021


Clinical psychologist Dr. Lucy Johnstone, one of the lead authors of the Power Threat Meaning Framework (PTMF), joins this episode to talk about the …

1 in 4 are mentally ill, but soon 9 in 10 will be mentally ill, and eventually 100% of us will be mentally ill, at which point nobody will be mentally ill!

July 20th, 2021


This is the voice of Dr. Lucy Johnstone, one of the lead authors of the Power Threat Meaning Framework (PTMF) - an alternative to the DSM-5 and …

#049: Britney Was Made A Slave 4 U (#FreeBritney)

July 19th, 2021


Harriet opens with a deep dive into the #FreeBritney conservatorship abuse phenomenon and how Britney Spears was basically turned into a slave to make her family, as well as legal and medical establishment …

#FreeBritney (trailer)

July 15th, 2021


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#048: Politically Polarized Families

July 12th, 2021


A listener emailed us about how politically polarized their family was, and how painful this was for everyone to experience. Harriet and Max comment …

#047: A Critique Of #TikTokTherapy

July 5th, 2021


In this solocast episode, Max offers some critiques of the depoliticized and McDonaldized way #mentalhealth is discussed on social media. When he saw …

#TikTokTherapy (trailer)

June 29th, 2021


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#046: Middle and Upper Class Guilt

June 28th, 2021


Do you ever feel guilty or ashamed for having climbed or been born into a more "middle class" or "upper class" position on the socioeconomic ladder? Harriet and Max call this phenomenon "class guilt," and define it …

Guilt and shame (about socioeconomic position)

June 22nd, 2021


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#045: Identity wrap-up

June 21st, 2021


Harriet and Max "wrap up" on identity politics so they can move on to other topics.,

The erasure of women of color in union organizing

June 13th, 2021


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#044: Does Validation Cause Narcissism? (ft. Angie Speaks)

June 7th, 2021


Youtuber and podcaster Angie Speaks joins us to talk about what inspired her recent video "How Validation Ruined Your Life: Narcissism and Social Justice."  In this episode we discuss (and debate) whether there is value …

White people walking on eggshells around Black people

June 1st, 2021


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#043: Suicide vs. Fighting For Worlds Worth Living In (w/ Prof. Jennifer White)

May 31st, 2021


This week we talk to Jennifer White, one of the founders of the Critical Suicidology Network. White is a professor in the School of Child and Youth …

How to rebel (without committing suicide)

May 25th, 2021


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#042: Boss vs. Worker Psychology (ft. Tedwood Strong & Jen Garcia)

May 24th, 2021


Two union organizers from Atlanta, Georgia join us to explore questions about the psychology of bosses versus workers in the context of union …

American workers have never experienced solidarity

May 18th, 2021


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#041: What is capitalism and why should you care? (ft. Richard Wolff)

May 17th, 2021


Marxian economist Richard Wolff joins us for this episode to help us define our terms. What do we mean when we use words like capitalism, socialism, …

The dream of a new system

May 11th, 2021


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#040: Identity Politics & Mental Health (w/ Asad Haider)

May 10th, 2021


For this episode we invited Asad Haider on to talk about identity politics and mental health. Haider wrote a book called Mistaken Identity in 2018, …

"It's not true that people are oppressed by their race"

May 4th, 2021


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#39: Occupational Therapy vs. Capitalism

May 3rd, 2021


Max interviews Occupational Therapist Maria Dong to talk about the many ways our for-profit healthcare system negatively impacts healthcare workers and patient outcomes. Maria can be reached at @mariadongwrites on …

Corporate healthcare kills

April 27th, 2021


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#037: What's Wrong With Mainsteam Psychology? w/ Bethany Morris

April 26th, 2021


Bethany Morris joins us to talk about critical and community psychology, Lacanian psychoanalysis, and borderline personality disorder. Dr. Morris is …

#038: Will Biden's "Caring Economy" Infrastructure Plan Empower Women?

April 18th, 2021


Harriet reviews Biden's ambitious infrastructure and jobs plan and the inclusion of various aspects of the "caring economy," including investment into childcare, healthcare, eldercare, etc. Such jobs are overwhelmingly …

Can You Prove You're An Individual?

April 10th, 2021


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#036: Childcare 4 All (w/ Sarah R and Mo from DSA)

April 5th, 2021


Sarah and Mo join Max to talk about the many reasons why a universal childcare program in the U.S. would be good for the mental health of children, …

If you want stable adults, you need universal childcare

April 1st, 2021


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#035: The economy is crumbling - how does that make us feel?

March 29th, 2021


In this episode, Harriet gives a broad "macro" zoom out view of what's going on in America right now economically and politically. Next, she zooms in …

Why do we fear organizations and allow algorithms and bosses to dominate us?

March 23rd, 2021


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#034: Abolish ICE To Treat Immigrant PTSD? (ft. Randy Capps)

March 22nd, 2021


We reached out to Migration Policy Institute (MPI) to discuss their research on immigration enforcement and Latino adolescent mental health, …

Should immigrants trust the US government?

March 17th, 2021


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#033: We're All Addicts (w/ Kevin Gallagher)

March 15th, 2021


Fellow mental health counselor Kevin Gallagher joins us to talk about the history of addiction in America, its causes, and cures. Kevin shares  what he learned first-hand about America's broken approaches to addiction …

Where does all our addiction and trauma come from?

March 9th, 2021


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#032: Cultural Anthropologist Roy Grinker On Capitalism, Brain Science vs Supernaturalism, and The Neurodiversity Movement

March 8th, 2021


In this episode we interview Roy Grinker, cultural anthropologist and author of Nobody's Normal: How Culture Created the Stigma of Mental Illness. …

[Listener response] Clarifying our stance on psych meds

March 6th, 2021


A listener shared with us that they felt that in episode #030 it sounded like we were shaming people who take psych meds. We wanted to clarify our stance with this brief response for anyone who has felt shamed when we …

Did the transition from feudalism to capitalism create mental illness?

March 2nd, 2021


The speaker in this trailer is Roy Grinker, cultural anthropologist and author of Nobody's Normal: How Culture Created the Stigma of Mental Illness. …

#032: Is The PMC Delusional? (w/ Catherine Liu)

March 1st, 2021


Max interviews author of the polemical book Virtue Hoarders, Catherine Liu, about the ways the so-called Professional-Managerial Class (PMC) uses …

[BONUS] Was Sigmund Freud Helpful Or Harmful To Society?

February 27th, 2021


This is a teaser clip of a full patrons-only episode we did on Sigmund Freud, the "father of psychotherapy." In our patrons-only discord chatroom, we …

"Wellness" as the full commodification of mental health

February 23rd, 2021


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#031: Do Women Have Better Sex In Socialist & Communist Countries? (ft. Kristen Ghodsee)

February 22nd, 2021


Kristen Ghodsee joins us to talk about sex and sexuality across the varied socialist experiments that took place for most of the 20th century in Eastern Europe. She acknowledges the well-known atrocities (purges, …

Sex Feels Better When All Your Basic Needs Are Met

February 17th, 2021


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#30: Are DSM-5 Mental Disorders A Construct Of Capitalism?

February 15th, 2021


In this episode, we take a deeper dive into the origins and psychological and international implications of the existence and widespread use of the …

Are Mental Disorders Real?

February 9th, 2021


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#029: Too Poor To Eat And Losing Your Mind From Hunger (ft. Tati Cosper)

February 5th, 2021


Tati Cosper contacted us to raise awareness about the connections between hunger, poverty and mental health in America - so we did an episode on it with her! Why are people malnourished in the richest country on Earth? …

Hunger, Poverty, and Mental Health (trailer)

February 2nd, 2021


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Marxist Mindfulness 1: Sensing The Scalp And Contemplating Shampoo

January 29th, 2021


Max has been wanting to explore this for a while and Harriet gave him permission to do this as a solo episode - but it's not really an episode. It's …

#028: Were the Capitol Hill Riots caused by white supremacy, neoliberalism, or digital influence operations?

January 27th, 2021


In this episode, Harriet and Max offer different interpretations of the Capitol Hill riots and what caused them from both a personal psychological …

Social media as information and psychological warfare

January 25th, 2021


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#027: The LGBT Working Class vs. Rainbow Capitalism (w/ Eric Pierce)

January 20th, 2021


We spoke to one of our supporters and comrades, fellow mental health and social worker Eric Piece about the intersections of LGBT issues and capitalism. Eric identifies as a gay man and just as strongly as a union …

LGBT Struggle And Unions (teaser)

January 17th, 2021


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#026: Healing ourselves by fighting gentrification and slumification... and can we abolish rent completely? (ft. tenant organizer Talia Smith)

January 14th, 2021


Millions of tenants are at risk of being thrown out onto the street this year due to the covid-19 eviction moratoria being lifted federally and throughout different states and regions. The mental health field is …

Can we ever actually "abolish rent"? (Episode teaser)

January 10th, 2021


This is a snippet of the full episode where we talk with Talia Smith, tenant organizer with Omaha Tenants United and Autonomous Tenants Union …

Social Medicine On Air Crossover Episode: "Mental Health, Individualism, and the Economy"

January 4th, 2021


Here is a crossover episode we did with the hosts of Social Medicine On Air, a podcast very similar to our own but run by two physicians. Listen to the original episode here and be sure to check out their other …

#025: Climate Anxiety (w/ Ecological Engineer Sam Francis)

December 23rd, 2020


Ecological Engineering Phd student Sam Francis joins us for this episode to talk about climate anxiety: the very real and "not just in your head" …

Is it safe to talk about climate change with my therapist? (Teaser)

December 20th, 2020


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#024: Decommodify All Parts Of The Economy Related To Human Need

December 15th, 2020


Harriet proposes in this episode that for Americans to have good mental health, we have to decommodify all parts of the economy related to human need so that people don't feel depressed or anxious about things which all …

Money and Marxism Explained in 82 Seconds

December 13th, 2020


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#023: Unionized Therapists Fighting For Client Care And Workers Rights

November 27th, 2020


Harriet and Max interview two therapists who also act as "shop stewards" with the National Union of Healthcare Workers (NUHW) - Jackie Schalit LMFT …

When The Boss Makes You Feel Powerless

November 26th, 2020


Teaser for the full episode where we talk to two NUHW members - union therapists fighting for better client care and workers rights.

#022: Worker Cooperative Led By Mental Health Workers! (Tell Your Therapist To Join The Movement)

November 24th, 2020


"We are a cooperatively-run mental health practice located in Bushwick, Brooklyn" - from the Alliance Psychological Services website which also reads …

Democratizing Mental Health Work?

November 22nd, 2020


Sneak peek of our conversation with members of one of the only existing mental health provider worker cooperatives in existence -- Alliance …

Harming Relationships With Your Politics (Patron Q/A)

November 15th, 2020


We try to answer Patron questions as often as we can. In this recording, we answer Jake's question about how to avoid harming relationships with your …

#021: Can Joe Biden Improve Our Mental Health?

November 13th, 2020


Will a Joe Biden presidency be better for our collective mental health? Harriet thinks having a neoliberal president is better than a fascist …

Sigmund Freud Interview (re: Biden's Oepidal Complex)

November 10th, 2020


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#020: Will Biden build me 2.6 single family homes? (ft. Justin Roczniak AKA "donoteat01")

November 3rd, 2020


In this episode we interview leftist civil engineer Justin Roczniak (aka "donoteat01" on YouTube) to better understand the history of single family homes, suburbs, the real estate industry, and try to figure out better …

#020: Trailer (w/ Justin Roczniak A.K.A. YouTuber "donoteat01")

October 31st, 2020


We got some guy named Justin on the podcast for episode #20, to continue talking about the nuclear family, single family homes, and what owning …

#019: Abolish The Family? (full episode)

October 21st, 2020


Harriet describes the invention  of the nuclear family as part of the transition from European feudalism to capitalism, with attention to the function of the patriarch as the familial feudal lord, and children as …

Abolish The Family? (Skit)

October 18th, 2020


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#018: Interviewing Sex Worker Gemma Paradise and Feminist Studies Scholar Dr. Heather Berg

October 5th, 2020


Thanks to helpfully critical feedback we received on our W.A.P. episode, we were lucky to make contact with guests Gemma Paradise and Dr. Heather …

#018 Trailer (ft. Gemma Paradise)

October 2nd, 2020


Episode #018 is all about sex work and mental health, featuring Marxist sex worker and organizer Gemma Paradise and Feminist Studies scholar Dr. …

#017: Three communist psychotherapists walk into a church (ft. Bruce Rogers-Vaughn)

September 29th, 2020


In this episode we interview Christian minister and anti-capitalist psychotherapist Bruce Rogers-Vaughn, whose deep and calming voice happens to be an FDA approved anti-anxiety medicine.  One of Bruce's students emailed …

#017 Trailer (ft. Bruce Rogers-Vaughn)

September 28th, 2020


Meet Bruce Rogers-Vaughn, an anti-capitalist psychotherapist and Christian minister. Full episode will be released soon!

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Answering Patron Questions

September 15th, 2020


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#016: Therapists React To W.A.P. By Cardi B (SHOCKING!)

September 4th, 2020


(Note from the future: thanks to helpfully critical feedback we received for this  episode, we recorded a follow up one with sex worker Gemma …

Capitalism Hits Home!

August 31st, 2020


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#015: Immigrating from Africa, Black Lives Matter, and Woke Capitalism (a chat with Russel Ndip)

August 24th, 2020


Harriet and Max interview one of their listeners for this episode and cover a wide variety of topics from immigration to gender and cross-cultural …

#014: Suicide

August 17th, 2020


USA National Suicide hotline: 1-800-273-TALK (8255)

Max does a solo episode on the topic of suicide (Harriet will be back next week!). Topics he …

#013: How To Form A Tenant's Union

August 7th, 2020


In this solo episode, Max explains how to form a tenant's union, from inside his car. He gives an overview of what the benefits are of tenants …

#012: Interview with Social Worker co-creator of the Liberation Health Model: Dawn Belkin Martinez

August 1st, 2020


Harriet and Max interview Dawn Belkin Martinez about the Liberation Health Model, which she and other social workers developed 20 years ago to move …

#011: Sex, Love, and Intimacy Under Neoliberalism

July 25th, 2020


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#010: Can Labor Organizing Treat Depression? ft. Rachel Mendelson

July 18th, 2020


Harriet and Max chat with biomolecular engineering grad student Rachel Mendelson about her experience participating in the historic Cost Of Living …

#009: Mental Health In Rural America ft. Pete Bourgelais

July 10th, 2020


Harriet and Max talk with Pete Bourgelais about mental health in rural America, with emphasis on Maine because that's where Pete is from (and is running for office to push for a Green New Deal, support for local organic …

#008: Corona Emotions

July 7th, 2020


In this solo episode, Harriet talks about the many ways people are being impacted emotionally by the current pandemic. Men in particular having a …

#007: How The Plantation Class Invented Race To Divide Us, Why MLK Supported Multi-Racial Unionism, and Dr. Luke Wood's Black Minds Matter Project

June 27th, 2020


In this episode we cover both "macro" and "micro" points of discussion about race and racism. Harriet starts off with explaining how capitalism has always required a set of social divisions to pit workers against each …

#006: Our backgrounds, BPD, diet and mental health, Gloria Steinem is a cop, and the Liberation Health Model!

June 21st, 2020


Sorry for the long gap between episodes! We respond to some fanmail and Anchor messages covering topics such as: how we developed our views based on our backgrounds; thoughts on borderline personality disorder; …

#005: Mental Health Awareness Month & The Nonprofit Industrial Complex

May 31st, 2020


Max and Harriet lay out their critique of #MentalHealthAwarenessMonth by first speaking on its origins - a big pharma funded nonprofit called Mental Health America, beginning in 1949 - then explain how the rise of the …

#004: A Tale of Four Depressions

May 23rd, 2020


In the first half of this episode, Harriet lays out a thesis on four depressions in the United States. 1) Depression of wages and employment in the late 1970s caused by outsourcing and automation of mainly male jobs, …

#003: Does meditating, doing yoga, and practicing self-care make the world better?

May 18th, 2020


[Disclaimer: Harriet and Max are pro-meditation, pro-yoga, and pro- self-care! And want listeners to think about these practices within a broader …

#002: Covid-19, Mental Health, and The Return Of The Strike! (May Day Edition)

May 2nd, 2020


Recorded on May 1, International Worker's Day, mental health counselors Harriet and Max talk about the many ways covid-19 is impacting our collective …

#001: It's Not Just In Your Head

April 16th, 2020


Max and Harriet introduce themselves, how they met and why they're  starting the podcast with hopes of reaching other mental health  practitioners, consumers of mental health services, and whoever else  will listen. …

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