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Irresistible (fka Healing Justice Podcast)

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Formerly known as Healing Justice Podcast, Irresistible is a virtual practice space at the intersection of collective healing & social change. Host Kate Werning & collaborators share conversations with powerful social justice leaders, and accompanying audio practices to help resource you in your lea… read more


37 Relational Somatics with Lucién Demaris of Relational Uprising

This week we are talk Relational Somatics with Lucién Demaris of Relational Uprising. I love listening to how Lucién perceives and understands the world in such an insightful web of relationship and interaction -- our bodies in relation to one another and the ecology as the foundational way we co-regulate. This understanding of somatics as relational is an important and unique offer in that way, challenging the idea of self-mastery and replacing it with an invitation for ways we can all be tuning in more closely in mutual support. You'll hear how our embodiment relates to our field of relationships with other humans, animals, and nature.

This conversation is based on "Embodying," the second of the three pillars of Relational Uprising's work. To learn more about the first pillar, "Bonding," listen to episode 20 about resonance with Mark Fairfield. To learn about the third pillar, "Bridging," tune in to episode 32 where Lucién and Cedar Landsmen teach us about bridging and relational inclusion. This episode will totally make sense to you if you start listening here, but if you really want to build an understanding of their frameworks you may choose to listen to those other 2 episodes and practices first.


Welcome to Book Club! 📚

Welcome to our new gathering place for our listener community to learn, explore, and practice together. Our first selection is Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good. Get your copy now from our partners at AK Press with code PODCAST for 15% off!

Join Book Club at any reward level $10 & up on our Patreon at to get members-only access to a 30% off discount code at AK Press, a discussion guide for hosting your own gathering around this book, and be invited to a virtual hangout with adrienne, Amita, and Monique Tula this summer to talk further about Pleasure Activism.

And check out our Community level, Reciprocity level for practitioners, Redistribution level where we share 15% of money raised with less visible less resourced frontline healing justice groups, and our Donor Circle level on Patreon too. Every membership tier above $10 includes Book Club. See you there! xo



Lucién Demaris is a Somatics-based healer, educator and consultant, training in the US and internationally for the last 15 years. Lucién is formally trained as a Guild Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner of Somatic Education, a California Licensed Acupuncturist and a Nationally Certified Bodyworker. Lucien identifies as mestizo and is from Ecuador.

Relational Uprising, the organization of which Lucién is a part, is a training and coaching institute that supports social movements to foster a relational culture of embodied support, interdependence, and inclusion in their organizations and communities. Learn more and apply for their trainings at



In the following episode (publishing next week), Lucién offers us a physical exercise to tune in to one another's breathing and pulse that they call a Somatic Check-In. It can be shared with a partner or in a group. Subscribe to this podcast to make sure you don't miss it.



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Thank you to our incredible production volunteers on this episode: Sonja Hanson for audio editing and production, Zach Meyer at the COALROOM for music and mastering, and Josiah Werning for graphic design.

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