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200 EpisodesProduced by Rachel BernsteinWebsite

Welcome to IndoctriNation: A weekly podcast covering cults, manipulators, and protecting yourself from systems of control.


A Matter of Conscience w/ Wesley David Ringel, ex-JW S2E14

Wesley David Ringel is a songwriter, musician, and activist based out of Long Beach, California. When he's not playing dueling pianos, he's enjoying life away from the "older white men" who run Jehovah's Witnesses-- a group "where independent thinking is viewed as Satanic". Join Rachel and Wesley in their powerful talk about "The Watchtower", how it has a "criminal aspect", how Wesley has worked to rebuild his life and a sense of who he is after his experience.

Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel speaks about the stages of being physically and mentally in and then out of a cult, and the process of disillusionment and alienation that slowly leads to people reclaiming their lives. She also discusses the dangers of isolation after leaving.

Follow Wesley's music on Soundcloud at and on Instagram: @wesleydavidringel

If you're looking, or know someone who is looking to get out of a cultic group or controlling situation, don't hesitate to reach out at

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