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INCOGNITO the podcast

11 EpisodesProduced by Michael FosbergWebsite

Incognito the podcast is an exploration of inclusion, leadership and authenticity. Hosted by author, activist, and thought-leader Michael Fosberg, Incognito seeks to forge connections and uncover commonalities through meaningful conversations about identity. In individual reflections and candid disc… read more


Ep 6: Leading With Vulnerability and Adaptability | Scott Lanum

Our next guest on INCOGNITO the podcast is Scott Lanum! Scott works in the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency as a liaison for the organization to discuss matters of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion and for employees to bring up any issues they encounter. Scott and I discuss his experience working in various parts of the Federal Government, what a model workplace can look like, and how we can all take small risks to make strong connections.

Suggested tools:

-Nobody makes their path by themselves, we need to lean on the help of others

-Show people you care, be there for them

-Create an environment where we can always have conversations; a greater value for diversity will start 1 on 1

-Take small risks with people you don’t know; try to share something beyond how your sports team did or how the weather is and thank people for taking those risks to share

-Showing a little piece of our sincere selves can create connections, shatter stereotypes, and show our common humanity

-We tend to perceive vulnerability as a weakness, but it is a strength that can lead to greater trust and understanding

Scott’s Book Recommendation:

The Founding Fathers on Leadership: Classic Teamwork in Changing Times by Donald T. Phillips


Thanks to Ned Doheny for providing our podcast music! You can find him and his music on Spotify.

Editing and co-production of this podcast by Farrah Sklar.

Email with questions or comments about the show!

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