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In Seclusion

69 EpisodesProduced by Greg LambertWebsite

Work From Home (WFH) is the new default for the legal industry. Host Greg Lambert talks with a wide range of legal professionals who share their stories on this new work model.

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Three Lessons We've Learned During the Pandemic - David Lat

June 26th, 2020


When David Lat, Managing Partner of Lateral Link, contracted COVID-19 back in March, he made the pandemic real and personal for many of us in the legal industry. Three months later, I have him as my last guest on In …

Being a Tech-Savvy Law Office Is No Longer Optional - Victoria Hudgins

June 25th, 2020


Victoria Hudgins, Reporter at LegalTechNews, reports on the legal tech sector and noticed that some of the first cuts that major law firms made …

Prioritize the Things that Matter… Stop Doing the Things that Don't Matter - Jason Barnwell

June 24th, 2020


Jason Barnwell, Assistant General Counsel of Modern Legal at Microsoft, does not like it when his outside legal counsel comes to him with traditional offerings during a crisis. If there is ever a time to package legal …

Crisis is the Father of Innovation - Patrick DiDomenico

June 23rd, 2020


Patrick DiDomenico, the Chief Innovation Officer at Jackson Lewis, says that while Necessity may be the Mother of Invention, Crisis may be the Father of Innovation. And this year is definitely filled with crisis events. …

Should We Even Reopen at this Time? - Joshua Lenon, CLIO

June 22nd, 2020


Joshua Lenon, Lawyer in Residence at CLIO, works in a cloud-based environment where the idea is to operate consistently, regardless of physical location. And that’s exactly what they have done over the past three-plus …

Are These Changes Permanent, Or Just to Get Us Through the Moment? - Colin Levy

June 19th, 2020


Colin Levy, Legal Technology, and Legal Innovation Thought Leader says that there are a lot of people in the legal industry who are truly trying to …

The Expanding Role of IT Security in the New Hybrid Work Environment - Joel Lytle

June 17th, 2020


As many of us were rushing to work from home at the beginning of the pandemic, law firm security teams were scrambling to ensure that the networks and hardware were protected from possible attacks. Joel Lytle, Director …

We Need Better Shared Situational Awareness Between Law Firms and Clients Going Forward - David Kamien

June 16th, 2020


David Kamien, CEO, and co-founder of Mind Alliance discusses how when COVID-19 began shutting down the economy, law firms opened up a firehose of thought leadership for their clients. While the clients’ inboxes were …

What Do We Do After Summer Ends? - Danny Norris

June 15th, 2020


Danny Norris, Attorney at Law and Trustee at the Harris County Texas Department of Education, discusses his experiences over the past few months of …

Give People the Space to Step Back - Casandra Laskowski

June 12th, 2020


Casandra Laskowski Technology & Research Services Librarian at Duke Law School has the responsibility of assisting law school students, staff, …

Will We Be The Same People When We Go Back? - Mike Whelan

June 11th, 2020


Mike Whelan, author of “Lawyer Forward: Finding Your Place in the Future of Law” is a lawyer, author, legal innovator, and recently an Above the Law podcast host. As we begin to make our way back to our respective …

We Need to Acknowledge What's Going On And Be Present - Alycia Sutor

June 10th, 2020


Alycia Sutor, Managing Director at GrowthPlay, coaches lawyers, law firms, and other legal organizations on the need to get out of their comfort zones, and quickly embrace the changes as a new way of being. Those are …

And We Haven't Missed a Beat - Cornell Winston

June 9th, 2020


For Cornell H. Winston, Law Librarian at United States Attorney's Office in Southern California, there have been a number of small and large changes affecting his law library and records departments. While he is …

We Have to Learn and Do at the Same Time - Celeste Smith

June 8th, 2020


Celeste Smith, the Director of Education for the American Association of Law Libraries (AALL), works on finding educational opportunities for those of us who consider ourselves life-long learners. While we are in an …

Access to Justice in Puerto Rico in the Time of COVID-19 - Diego Alcala

June 5th, 2020


Diego Alcala is an attorney and Legal Tech Founder based in Puerto Rico. The current COVID-19 and remote working conditions are just two more issues stacked upon existing challenges ranging from cuts in governmental …

There Are Different Expectations When It Comes To Training And Learning - Ian Nelson

June 4th, 2020


Ian Nelson of Hotshot Legal believes that as we come out of the pandemic, there will be completely different expectations when it comes to how legal professionals want to train and learn. No more hour-long lectures with …

Will COVID-19 Be the Great Equalizer for the Legal Industry? – Vivia Chen

June 3rd, 2020


Vivia Chen is Senior Columnist at ALM, and Chief Blogger for The Careerist. She talks with me about how the pandemic may finally be the impetus to …

Those Who Kept Our Offices Running - Clare Hart, CEO Williams Lea

June 2nd, 2020


This is episode 50. For something I called a miniseries, 50 episodes seem like a lot. Thanks to all who have come on the show to share their stories of preparedness, adjustment, and vision for the future. As we continue …

Now’s the Perfect Time To Experiment - Maya Markovich

June 1st, 2020


Maya Markovich, Chief Growth Officer at Nextlaw Labs, thinks that the current environment within the legal industry is the perfect time to rethink …

Don’t Lose Sight of the People Part of the Law - Heather Morse

May 29th, 2020


Heather Morse, the Chief Business Development Officer at McGlinchey Stafford in New Orleans reminds us of the saying that “one size fits one” and that there isn’t a single way to approach how to manage the current …

It’s Time to Put Our Energy Into New Engagement Models - Roy Sexton

May 28th, 2020


Clark Hill's Director of Marketing, Roy Sexton talks with me about how law firm marketing teams have really stepped up over the past couple of months to help their attorneys find appropriate ways to engage with their …

It Turns Out That Law Firms ARE Pretty Adaptable - Tim Corcoran

May 27th, 2020


Tim Corcoran advises law firms on how to improve the business delivery side of things. One of the positive aspects of the pandemic has been the ability for firms to actually look at the processes of their business, and …

We’re Getting Used to This New, Ambiguous, Different, and Uncomfortable Work-Life - Marcie Borgal Shunk

May 26th, 2020


Marcie Borgal Shunk of The Tilt Institute, Inc. is used to working closely with attorneys and law firm leadership. Traditionally, this meant gathering large groups of lawyers into a room for hours, or days at a time, …

We’ll Be Two Meters Apart, But Still Face to Face - Justin North, Janders Dean

May 22nd, 2020


Janders Dean founder, Justin North, has seen many downturns in the economy and legal industry before but he thinks that the ability for us to keep our stories alive on how we handled downturns before, has helped many …

Continuing our Connectedness… Just in a Different Way - Sherry Kapple, Litera

May 21st, 2020


Sherry Kappel from Litera, flew back to the US just in time to avoid the travel ban on March 11th, and then immediately began preparation and action to move employees across the world to work from home. In the more than …

Expanding Community, Creativity, and Clients during a Crisis - Aurelia Spivey, Digitory Legal

May 20th, 2020


While we may be in the middle of a crisis, there are certain processes and relationships we need to maintain in order to make sure we have those as we make our way out of the crisis. Aurelia Spivey from Digitory Legal

The Distance has Kept Us Together - Colin Lechance, VLex

May 19th, 2020


One of the themes I’ve picked up on with the now 41 episodes of this series, is that the transition to remote working environments caused by the pandemic was helped immensely by the increase in cloud and communications …

Navigating So Many Rules as We Start to Reopen - Mary Jenkins, Accufile

May 18th, 2020

Mary Jenkins, Director of Research Solutions and Senior Law Librarian at Accufile, contracts with multiple law firms and corporations ranging from sma

Missing the Natural Serendipitous Exploration of Ideas - Kristin Hodgins

May 15th, 2020


One of the things that many of us struggle with, but may not admit to others, is that we actually really miss the office environment. Whether it is the ability to duck into another worker’s office for advice, or …

Legal Marketing Association's Mission During the Pandemic - Jill Huse (President) and Kelly MacKinnon (President-Elect)

May 14th, 2020


During a crisis, professional associations become a touchstone for many in the profession in order to stay in touch with our peers and to continue professional development and even potential employment opportunities. I …

Providing Legal Information Services in America's Last Frontier - Susan Falk, Alaska State Law Librarian

May 13th, 2020


Yesterday I went virtually to Hawaii to see how the pandemic has affected one of the United States’ remote locations. Today I get to go to another …

Providing Access to Justice in Paradise - Jenny Silbiger, State Law Librarian/Access to Justice Coordinator, Hawaii State Judiciary

May 12th, 2020


The pandemic is sparing no one, even in the tropical paradise of Hawaii. I talk with the Hawaiian State Law Librarian, Jenny Silbiger about how she lead her staff through the transition to remote work and service to the …

Young Lawyers Working and Living Through the Pandemic - Victor Flores, City of Plano and President of the Texas Young Lawyers Association

May 11th, 2020


The pandemic and the changes in our overall work structure can be challenging to even the most experienced of us in the legal industry. For younger lawyers, those just starting off, or those who are having to take care …

NYLI's Seven Guidelines to Return to Business - Lucy Curci-Gonzalez and Emily Moog, New York Law Institute

May 8th, 2020


Lucy Curci-Gonzalez is the Executive Director, and Emily Moog is Research Librarian for the New York Law Institute (NYLI). Late last year, NYLI updated its business continuity plans to include the possibility of a …

What Does Reopening Georgia Mean for One County Law Library? - Sarah Mauldin, DeKalb County Law Library

May 7th, 2020


The State of Georgia was one of the last states to restrict movement and one of the first states to announce plans for reopening for business. I talk …

Creatively Diversifying a Print-Centric Library - Holly Riccio, California Judiciary Court Library

May 6th, 2020


Holly Riccio and I have a lot in common. We are both former Presidents of the American Association of Law Libraries, and we have worked in a variety …

How Do We Continue to Serve People Who Are Far Away? - Amy Small, Texas State Law Library

May 5th, 2020


One of the bright spots of this pandemic, when it comes to the legal industry, is that many of us are realizing that the important thing we provide is tied to our services rather than our physical location. Law …

Serving the Public's Legal Information Needs During a Pandemic - Joe Lawson, Harris County Law Library

May 4th, 2020


May 1st began phase one of the reopening efforts for the State of Texas. Governor Abbott's order specifically lists libraries as one of the businesses which can open at a 25% capacity rate (and social distancing), but …

During an Emergency, KM Professionals Really Show Their Value - Jennifer Mendez, Fisher Phillips

May 1st, 2020


Sometimes it takes an emergency situation for resources to really show their value. Many of us are seeing this when it comes to the Knowledge …

Changing Jobs Mid-Pandemic - Maribel Nash, Cooley, LLP

April 30th, 2020


On April 6, 2020, most of us were just hitting our third week of working remotely. For Maribel Nash, she was starting a new job at Cooley, LLP. While …

What's It Like to be a New Fall Associate in 2020? - Tori Coates, Baylor Law School and Daniel Maldonado, St. Mary's Law School

April 29th, 2020


This week I am focusing on the employment opportunities for lawyers during this pandemic crisis. I hit up my alma mater yesterday, and today I go even closer to home by interviewing two incoming Fall Associates at my …

Connecting Law Students to Employers During a Pandemic - Alicia Currin-Moore, University of Oklahoma College of Law

April 28th, 2020


Last week I talked with a number of law students about their adjustments during the pandemic for school, graduation, the bar, and employment. This …

Lateral Recruiting in the Age of COVID-19 - Richard Hsu, Major, Lindsey, and Africa

April 27th, 2020


While most of us haven't been in a physical office for more than a month, that doesn't mean that people aren't changing jobs. The legal industry's lateral movement was white-hot before the pandemic, and there while …

How Are Law Students Learning In Seclusion? - Pt. 5 - Michael Anderson, Emory University School of Law

April 24th, 2020


In the final installment on how law students are coping with the changes in remote learning, I talk with Michael Anderson, 3L from Emory University …

How Are Law Students Learning In Seclusion? - Pt. 4 - Kanza Khan, Michigan State University Law School

April 23rd, 2020


In part four of our week-long series on how law students are coping with the changes in remote learning, I talk with second-year law student Kanza Khan. Kanza's story is a bit different than the previous episodes in …

How Are Law Students Learning In Seclusion? - Pt. 3 - Rachel Sodee, Vanderbilt Law School

April 22nd, 2020


In part three of our week-long series on how law students are coping with the changes in remote learning, I talk with third-year law student Rachel Sodee. Rachel discusses her experience with Vanderbilt's transition to …

How Are Law Students Learning In Seclusion? - Pt. 2 - Morgan McGreevy, University of Texas Law School

April 21st, 2020


In part two of our week-long series on how law students are coping with the changes in remote learning, I talk with second-year law student Morgan …

How Are Law Students Learning In Seclusion? - Pt. 1 - Stephanie Nweke, University of Houston Law Center

April 20th, 2020


This week, I interview 2L and 3L law students about how they are adapting to their online classes, pass/fail grades, the upcoming finals, and what, if any, changes are occurring with their Summer or Fall Associate …

Working Remotely, Together - Christine Sellers Sullivan and Jeremy Sullivan

April 17th, 2020



Today's guests bring home this podcast's catchphrase that "we're in this together." Christine Sellers Sullivan and Jeremy Sullivan are …

Will WFH Finally Drag the Legal Industry Into the 21st Century? - Kristin Tyler - LAWCLERK

April 16th, 2020



While the legal industry is adjusting to its new work from home reality (the running joke is "we are all in-house attorneys now"), today's guest manages a stable of some 2,800 lawyers who all work …

Managing Our Expectations of Ourselves, and of Others - Steve Matthews - TRG Screen

April 15th, 2020



Today's guest, Steve Matthews, CEO of TRG Screen (owner of Research Monitor), talks with me about how our decade long journey to the cloud has helped him seamlessly migrate his staff to a completely …

Transforming the Business - Steve Roses - William S. Hein & Co., Inc.

April 14th, 2020



Steve Roses is a road warrior. As the Director, Sales William S. Hein & Co., Inc, and HeinOnline, he is at conferences and tradeshows constantly. While that may be put on pause for this pandemic, the …

Catching Our Breath… And Focusing On It - Heather Simmons (UGA) and Kyle Courtney (Harvard)

April 13th, 2020



We are all busy and extremely stressed out at the moment. Heather Simmons of the University of Georgia School of Law and Kyle Courtney of …

Reporting Legal News During a Pandemic - Amber McKinney - Law360

April 9th, 2020



Amber McKinney is the Managing Editor for Law360 and is the host of one of my favorite legal podcasts, Law360's Pro Say. I got to see Amber's new recording studio, which also doubles as the closet of her …

Simultaneously Preparing for the Best and the Worst - Joy Heath Rush - ILTA

April 8th, 2020



When you run a large legal technology association, you know your members are one of the biggest reasons that most of us can work from home. …

Dean Sonderegger - Adapting to Customers Living in a Virtual World - Wolters Kluwer

April 7th, 2020



As the coronavirus spread along the global distribution chain, it became apparent that eventually, all global markets were going to be affected. For Dean Sonderegger, Senior Vice-President and General …

The Era of Asynchronous Collaboration - Matt Homann - The Filament

April 6th, 2020



Matt Homann is the founder of The Filament in St. Louis. If your business is facilitating in-person meetings, like Matt's is, you might …

Learning as We Go - Nicole Morris - Emory University School of Law

April 3rd, 2020



Nicole Morris is the Director of the TI:GER Program and Professor in Practice at Emory School of Law. She shared with me a number of …

Tossed into the Deep End - Andrea Markstrom - Taft Stettinius & Hollister

April 2nd, 2020



The speed at which the COVID-19 crisis hit the legal industry made it especially difficult for our technology staff and leadership. Now …

Managing to a Clock is a Bit Lazy - Kris Martin - HBR

April 1st, 2020



We’ve talked a lot about managing remote people on the series so far. For Kris Martin, management consultant for HBR, that scenario was …

Getting the Legal Information to the Legal Professional - Neil Sternthal - Thomson Reuters

March 31st, 2020



What role does the Legal Information Publisher play in this new work from home model for the legal industry? Neil Sternthal from Thomson …

The New 'New Normal' - Michelle Cosby - Temple Law School, AALL President

March 30th, 2020



The New Normal was coined to define the changes after the Lehman Brothers collapse. There is another New Normal that is already happening …

The Need for Next-Gen Roles in Law Firms - Toby Brown - Perkins Coie

March 27th, 2020



While law firms have been relatively well prepared for this transition to work from home, the future will have a number of challenges for legal professionals. Toby Brown is always looking at trends in the …

Zoom'ing Right Along - Cat Moon - Vanderbilt Law School

March 26th, 2020



While the remote work and teaching environment might be new to most law professors, Vanderbilt Law School's Cat Moon has lots of …

Planning for the Unexpected - Vani Ungapen - Executive Director of AALL

March 25th, 2020


Vani Ungapen prides herself on being a planner. So how does one plan for a future that is uncertain? By being nimble, flexible, go with the flow, and most importantly, don't panic. As the Executive Director of the

Remote Work is About the Process - Andrea Cannavina - CEO LegalTypist

March 24th, 2020



Andrea Cannavina understands the process of remote legal work. She's been at it for nearly 20 years as the CEO of LegalTypist. Andrea gives us a checklist of tasks that those new to the remote work environment …

This is a Marathon, Not A Sprint - Jim Calloway - Oklahoma Bar Association

March 23rd, 2020



In the inaugural episode of In Seclusion, we talk with Jim Calloway, the Director of the Oklahoma Bar Association's Management Assistance Program (MAP). Calloway and I go back to my early legal days with the …

In Seclusion Podcast Miniseries - Starts March 23, 2020

March 22nd, 2020



Welcome to the In Seclusion Podcast miniseries, with Greg Lambert.

Over the next few weeks, we'll push out daily podcast where …

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