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HR Interviews Playlist

705 EpisodesProduced by Evergreen Podcasts

The best collection of podcast interviews in the Human Resources, Recruiting, Technology, DEI, and Workforce space in one podcast. Welcome to Evergreen's HR Interviews, curated episodes from the most well-known and up-in-coming podcasts in the HR, Recruiting, and Tech industry with interviews from p… read more

705 Episodes | 2021 - 2024

Farewell

February 22nd, 2024

0:39

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Ep 603: Talent Lessons From Elite Sport

March 28th, 2024

11:52

Companies can learn a massive amount from elite sports in terms of spotting and nurturing the talent required to build highly effective teams. Having an adaptable, flexible, and self-aware mindset is critical in these …

Money Power with Nico Simko

March 27th, 2024

29:39

Paying employees as soon as they clock out of a grueling day of work seems like science fiction, but it shouldn't. That's why we invited Nico Simko, …

Ep 602: The Skills Mismatch In Hiring

March 26th, 2024

23:23

Skills-based hiring is a hot topic as many employers seek to better understand the skills they need in their businesses both now and in the future. With the shelf life of hard skills shortening by the day, companies …

AI Guru Strikes Again

March 25th, 2024

40:04

Nothing strikes fear into the hearts of employers or the vendors that service them quite like the threat of a lawsuit. These days, legal challenges and the opportunity to take a business to court are aplenty ... …

Quiet Hiring

March 22nd, 2024

35:13

Skills shortages, shortening skills lifespans, digital transformation, the AI revolution, hiring freezes and layoffs. These are just some of the …

Creating a Talent Collective with Natalie Stones

March 20th, 2024

25:55

Join us on "The Chad and Cheese Podcast" for a lively and enlightening conversation with Natalie Stones, the founder of Talent Collective. In this …

Ep 600: Did We Predict The Future?

March 19th, 2024

52:39

I launched Recruiting Future nine years ago to attempt to understand the future of talent acquisition. Back then, social media was the biggest driver …

TA Tech w/Peter Weddle

March 19th, 2024

33:19

This week we welcome Peter Weddle CEO at TATech


  • From North Virginia, arguably the most beautiful part of the USA.


  • With 26 books written and a columnist …

Unholy Trinity: The Greatest Threats to Job Boards

March 18th, 2024

34:27

The last time Chad & Cheese welcomed Jeff "The Job Board Doctor" Chasey-Dickens to the podcast, chaos ensued as Cheese's Four Horsemen of the job board apocalypse rode wild in a healthy debate on the future of job …

Voice of Innovation: Qualifi's Journey and the Future of Recruiting

March 13th, 2024

30:02

The podcast episode features Darrian Mikell, co-founder and CEO of Qualifi, discussing the evolution of his company and its impact on the recruiting …

Ep 599: Data Sophistication

March 13th, 2024

21:53

We live in a world of work where understanding, interpreting and telling stories with data has never been more critical. Although Talent Acquisition has become more data-centric in recent years, many TA functions rely …

Attrition is Killing You with Dr. Jim

March 11th, 2024

37:26

In this episode of the podcast, the boys dive deep into the world of talent strategy and employee satisfaction with Dr. Jim Kanichirayil, VP of growth at EngageRocket, researcher, writer, podcaster, and a seasoned …

Ep 598: Building Exec Search In House

March 8th, 2024

32:07

Executive Search is often considered so specialized that it should always remain the preserve of Exec Search agencies. However, an ever-increasing …

Ep 597: Talent Acquisition Excellence

March 6th, 2024

36:43

I was delighted to hear two of my regular guests on Recruiting Future were writing a book together. “Talent Acquisition Excellence” by Kevin Wheeler

Recruiting with Grit and Wit with Michael Goldberg

March 6th, 2024

20:49

Dive into the irreverent world of talent acquisition with Michael Goldberg, the Senior Director of TA and Sourcing at US Renal Care, on The Chad and …

Talent Acquisition Excellence w/Bas Van de Haterd

March 5th, 2024

32:04

TRF feat Bas Van de Haterd Co - Author of Talent Acquisition Excellence. Get it now on Amazon or anywhere you get your books!


We welcome back our …

Firing Squad: SmartRank CEO Keith Hulen

March 4th, 2024

35:03

In case you missed it, automation, ranking candidates, DEI and managing applicants are all pretty popular solutions in the HR tech stratosphere. But …

Ep 596: Expectations and Experience

March 1st, 2024

25:23

It is almost four years since the first pandemic lockdowns, and even now, it doesn't seem long enough to get a proper perspective on how much the pandemic has changed things. It is already pretty clear that expectations …

Ep 595: Proving The Value Of Talent Acquisition

February 29th, 2024

27:37

These are turbulent times for talent acquisition, particularly for those teams operating in the technology sector. Despite the continuing demand for …

Getting Inclusive AF with Rolondo Talbott

February 28th, 2024

55:05

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Rolondo Talbott. Rolondo Talbott (pronouns are he/him/his and we/us/ours) is a passionate DEI leader, …

HelloWork Heats Up & JobiJoba Eyes America

February 28th, 2024

50:28

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, the boys dive into the world of recruitment aggregators and the challenges they face with the rise of AI in talent acquisition. They discuss how some aggregators …

Ep 594: Recruiting Data Science Skills

February 22nd, 2024

27:09

With the development and adoption of AI accelerating at an unprecedented pace, the demand for data scientists and data skills in general is …

The Power of Employer Branding with Carrie Corcoran

February 21st, 2024

17:29

Live from TA Week at the Qualifi booth, the boys sit down with Carrie Corcoran, a leading expert in employment branding and recruitment marketing. With her extensive experience in the industry and her passion for …

Ep 593: The Career Forward Mindset

February 20th, 2024

31:09

Work and jobs are changing, and the speed of change continues to accelerate. Whether you are in the fourth decade of your working life or looking for your first job, managing a career against this background of …

Ethical AI w/Chano Fernandez

February 20th, 2024

33:10

TRF welcomes Chano Fernandez Co-CEO of Eightfold


  • Chano brings an impressive track record with his career built in the HR Tech world and his incredible …

Making Sense of Gen Z with Author Anthony Onesto

February 14th, 2024

40:55

Who's ready for a new generation to enter the workforce? Well, like it or not, Gen Z is on their way in, and - stop me if you've heard this one before - they're different from all the preceding generations. How exactly? …

Ep 592: Understanding Skills

February 14th, 2024

25:49

The shelf life of skills is getting ever shorter, which has significant implications for talent acquisition. It is essential that TA leaders take an …

The Algorithm w/Hilke Schellmann

February 13th, 2024

44:43

One of the most interesting and controversial book in the HR section in a long while! Hilke brings the investigative journalist and an industry outsider to her new book “The Algorithm: How AI decides who gets hired, …

Firing Squad: OnLoop CEO Projjal Ghatak

February 12th, 2024

33:57

No one in the world of work likes form-filling, complex systems and bureaucracy. Yet, teams need to feel motivated, aligned, and accountable on the job, which usually means a lot of that stuff we hate. So what's an …

Ep 591: Is AI Changing Jobseeker Behaviour?

February 8th, 2024

27:20

Conversations about AI's impact on recruiting tend to focus entirely on the employer and recruiter viewpoint. However, it may well be that the most potent force of change for talent acquisition comes from AI-facilitated …

The State of Nurse Hiring w/ Dr. Beth Brooks

February 5th, 2024

30:01

In case you missed it, the nursing profession is going through a pretty challenging time. Whether it's COVID burnout, a severe lack of skilled workers or the Baby Boomers putting immense pressure on the health care …

Round Up January 2023

February 5th, 2024

12:43

Round Up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.


Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:


Ep 590: The Road To 2030

February 2nd, 2024

30:23

The last few years have taught us that no one can predict the future. However, you can develop the insight necessary to make accurate forecasts with the right combination of trend analysis and strategic thinking.


We are …

Ep 589: Talent Acquisition As A Competitive Advantage

January 30th, 2024

30:47

As the debates about the future of talent acquisition rumble on, it's important to focus intensely on the critical value effective hiring brings to the organization. Talent remains a key differentiator that drives …

Pre-Boarding w/Mike Ehrle

January 30th, 2024

37:10

TRF welcomes Mike Ehrle CEO at ClickBoarding


Bringing an impressive background in the employee benefit industry, Mike knows a great technology when he …

Talent Acquisition Excellence w/ Kevin Wheeler

January 29th, 2024

34:21

The future of recruiting is a popular topic these days. With AI and automation tools that are on a whole other level to tech of the past, many wonder …

Job Board Brawl: Cheese vs. The Doctor

January 29th, 2024

41:28

We say a lot of things on the podcast that people disagree with. Most people stop short of writing a blog post about how wrong they think one, or both, of us are. However, Jeff Dickey-Chasins, affectionately known as …

Ep 588: AI, Background Checks and Quality of Hire

January 26th, 2024

26:09

Background checking is an area we've never really covered on the podcast. In the past, it has just felt like a necessary but very functional part of the hiring process. However, with the explosion in our digital …

Iko Iko

January 26th, 2024

36:57

This week on TRF we cover:


  • Wayfair CEO says uses his outside voice - again. He thinks he’s Elon Musk and can get away with saying whatever pops into …

Ep 587: Getting The Basics Right

January 24th, 2024

30:09

With so much focus on potentially AI-driven disruptive change and debate about the future, it is sometimes easy to forget that many employers are …

Hourly Worker Hiring w/Cameron Laker

January 23rd, 2024

39:46

The Recruitment Flex welcomes Cameron Laker CEO at MindField.


  • If you think RPO is just rent-a-recruiter, prepare to be blown away by what Cameron has …

Reunion Squad: Real Links' Sam Davies

January 22nd, 2024

32:57

We had employee referral software solution Real Links, and their CEO and co-founder Sam Davies, on Firing Squad four years ago. Chad gave them a …

Ep 586: Removing Silos to Improve Hiring and Retention

January 17th, 2024

18:28

The ever-shortening shelf life of skills, fast-changing business priorities, ageing populations, and changing attitudes to work means that retaining …

The Algorithm: How AI Decides Who Gets Hired

January 17th, 2024

34:56

Artificial intelligence and the world of work are strange bedfellows, especially when it comes to recruiting. It's OK if you're a bit confused, but …

Sitting and Standing Up Jobs w/Andrew Flowers

January 16th, 2024

34:16

TRF feat Andrew Flowers Labour Economist with Appcast:

Andrew recaps the 2023 labour market for US, Canada and Europe and a big round of applause on …

Ep 585: Embracing Automation

January 12th, 2024

32:09

As I've said before, automation is inevitable in talent acquisition. Automation can bring essential efficiencies and a vastly improved and …

Ep 584: Talent-Centered Design

January 11th, 2024

29:13

There is a growing consensus that 2024 will see the start of some fundamental changes in Talent Acquisition. The adoption of Skills-based hiring and …

Diving Into the State of M&A, Capital in HR Tech

January 10th, 2024

28:18

What's going to happen to all those remote-work unicorns who raised hundreds of millions during the pandemic, now that RTO is back and WFH is out? What's the current state of M&A in HR Tech in 2023, heading into …

Getting Inclusive AF with Donald Knight

January 10th, 2024

57:43

In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Jackye Clayton is joined by special guest Donald Knight, Chief People Officer at Greenhouse, as they engage in a dynamic, thought-provoking conversation about diversity, …

Social Screening w/Ben Mones

January 9th, 2024

16:31

In person at the HR Tech conference we get the update from CEO Ben Mones. 


  • Big year so far with FAMA - they are the leading platform for screening for …

Startup Pitches, HR Tech, and Career Progression: Taylor Weiss from PeakSpan Capital

January 8th, 2024

17:41

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese sit down with Taylor Weiss, a Technology Investor at …

Round Up December 2023

January 6th, 2024

18:10

Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.


Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:


From AI to Mental Health: EEOC's Keith Sonderling's Insights

January 3rd, 2024

23:06

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese are joined by Keith Sonderling, EEOC Commissioner. …

Ep 583: Re-Inventing Your Career

December 29th, 2023

21:34

It's been a brutal year for many in talent acquisition, with a lot of layoffs and a very tough job market, making it challenging to find other roles. …

Exploring Pay Equity with Legal Expert Heather Bussing

December 27th, 2023

18:09

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese are joined by Heather Bussing, a legal expert in employment law. They discuss the topic of pay equity and how it impacts …

Ep 582: Employer Branding With Gen AI

December 27th, 2023

26:40

Most of the conversation around generative AI in 2023 has focused on its potential and future long-term strategic impact. However, many talent acquisition teams have been doing some hands-on experimentation with the …

Ep 581: An Inflection Point For Recruiting?

December 21st, 2023

30:31

Despite massive advances in technology and I/O psychology over the last 20 years, the recruiting process has stubbornly stuck with norms established …

How to Expand Your Talent Strategy, With Melissa Cebula of Cerberus

December 20th, 2023

16:44

Expanding talent pipelines with alternative strategies for more diverse, and more effective, teams

Getting Inclusive AF with Jessica Miller-Merrell

December 20th, 2023

54:04

In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, join host Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton as they engage in a candid and eye-opening conversation with special guest Jessica Miller-Merrell. They delve into the realms of …

Ep 580: A New Community For Women In TA

December 19th, 2023

18:55

One of the things that I love about our industry is the sense of community. Wherever talent acquisition professionals gather, whether online or face-to-face, at industry events, there is always a strong emphasis on …

Ep 580: A New Community For Women In TA

December 19th, 2023

18:55

One of the things that I love about our industry is the sense of community. Wherever talent acquisition professionals gather, whether online or face-to-face, at industry events, there is always a strong emphasis on …

High Volume Hiring w/Sean Paulseth

December 19th, 2023

34:07

Sean Paulseth, based in Canada, is the Global Head of Sales for Silicon Valley’s Humanly.io. His career path is unique as he brings lived experience …

College Recruiter's Steve Rothberg on Job Boards' Changing Fees

December 18th, 2023

27:15

Steve Rothberg looks at job boards dipping their toes into new pricing models.

Ep 579: The Value Of Employer Branding

December 18th, 2023

27:04

Previously, In Episode 573, we explored the power of Employee Value Propositions; I want to follow up by having a similar conversation about employer …

Ep 578: The AI Hype Cycle

December 15th, 2023

22:32

It does feel like 2024 could be the inflection point where we can push away the hype and start to see what impact AI is really going to have on …

Ep 577: Hiring In Challenging Talent Markets

December 14th, 2023

24:41

Despite the recent increases in applications that some sectors are experiencing, there are still many talent markets with acute skills shortages where hiring is a considerable challenge. So, what long-term strategies …

Getting Inclusive AF with Sarah Reynolds

December 13th, 2023

48:10

In this episode, Katee chats with Sarah Reynolds. Sarah is an award-winning B2B SaaS marketing expert and proud architect of high-performing teams. A …

The Job Board Geeks Reunite!

December 12th, 2023

45:05

TRF feat Job Board Geeks Reunited!


  • Steven Rothsberg Founder of College Recruiter and Jeff Dickey-Chasins The Job Board Doctor join us for a 2023 year …

HR's Data Frontier: Jack Berkowitz of ADP Discusses Evolution & AI Advancements

December 11th, 2023

21:45

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese interview Jack Berkowitz, the Chief Data Officer at ADP. They discuss various topics such as ADP's data-driven approach, AI …

Ep 576: Generative AI - A TA Progress Report

December 8th, 2023

23:52

It's been a year since Generative AI burst onto the scene and took over the entire TA conversation for 2023. Some of the predictions made back then about its immediate impact on the world of work were out there, even …

ADP's Anthony Tavolacci on HRO, Data and Technology

December 8th, 2023

25:39

How employers work with vendors, why even small businesses need data and technology’s role in keeping everybody happy.

Ep 575: RPO Evolution

December 7th, 2023

18:36

One of the key themes from my conversations with TA practitioners on the podcast this year has been the importance of flexibility and agility. This isn't surprising, as we seem to be bouncing between panic mass hiring …

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Carol Parker Walsh

December 7th, 2023

54:12

🎙️ In this engaging episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Dr. Carol Parker Walsh to delve into …

Gem's Leigh Miller on Benchmarking Outreach, DEI and Changing TA

December 6th, 2023

21:30

Gen Senior Customer Advisor Leigh Miller dives into the company's latest benchmarking results.

VC Insights: HR Tech Growth with Philip Dur of PeakSpan Capital

December 6th, 2023

20:13

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese sit down for a candid conversation with Philip Dur, co-founder of Peakspan Capital. They discuss partnering with growth-stage …

Exploring HR's Narrative Power with Johnson & Johnson's Doug Shagham

December 4th, 2023

19:36

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese interview Doug Shagham, Head of People Data and Insights at Johnson & Johnson. Shagam shares his unconventional journey …

Ep 573: The Power Of Employee Value Propositions

December 1st, 2023

24:24

Employer Value Propositions are potent tools that attract talent, retain talent, and shape the future of organizations. However, we don't talk about …

Encore: CollegeRecruiter.com on Widening the Candidate Pipeline

November 29th, 2023

18:47

We talk about how recruiting’s changed in recent years, and look at changing workforce dynamics.

Ep 572 - Generative AI: Capabilities and Limitations

November 29th, 2023

18:02

AI is a game changer for talent acquisition, and as we start to move from the hype phase to the doing phase, its potential capabilities and current limitations are becoming more apparent.


So what can and can't AI do for …

Europe's Ever-Evolving HR Tech w/ EY's Hendrick Schmahl

November 27th, 2023

18:53

How could the boys head to Europe for UNLEASH World and not get a hot take on the current state of the continent when it comes to the world of work? …

Ep 571 - The Road Ahead For Talent Acquisition

November 24th, 2023

30:33

As we come to the end of another interesting year, I know that many of you will be looking towards 2024 and planning for the new year ahead.


One of the best things about 2023 for me has been the opportunity to get back …

Ep 570: Sustainable Hiring

November 22nd, 2023

23:59

The overhiring in the technology sector at the end of the pandemic, the resulting layoffs, and the knock-on effects on talent acquisition have been …

You Cannot Hide from AI w/ Larry McAlister

November 22nd, 2023

17:38

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, this episode features Larry McAlister, a three-time CHRO and author. We discuss his book "The Power to Transform," which serves as a field …

Private Equity is Hungry - The State of M&A

November 20th, 2023

16:06

The world is a volatile place. Inflation, conflict, elections and AI, to name a few, have meant a lot of things in business are taking a pause. …

Ep 569: Culture and Connection In Distributed Teams

November 17th, 2023

22:11

Three and a half years on from the first pandemic lockdowns, the debate about returning to the office still rages on. However, despite all the noise this year, as some large well-known companies tried yet again to force …

Ep 568: Reshaping Talent Strategies

November 15th, 2023

19:43

The last 18 months have seen colossal talent market disruption in the tech industry, with large-scale layoffs continuing as the companies attempt to …

Hackajob's Mark Chaffey on AI and What Users Want

November 15th, 2023

19:42

They care more about results than how things operate under the hood.

Ep 567: The Strategic Future Of Talent Acquisition

November 10th, 2023

21:22

Transforming TA into a strategic function that can prove its long-term value to the business has been a critical topic on the show this year. 


AI, uneven talent markets and challenging economic factors continue to cause …

Phenom's Mahe Bayireddi Talks About Data, AI and Advanced Technology

November 10th, 2023

25:59

The impact data can have on business outcomes, and what's involved with AI, data and automation.

Ep 566: Skills, AI And The Future Of Hiring

November 8th, 2023

22:16

The rapid development of AI and the increasing sophistication of skills-based hiring methodologies are two potent forces shaping the future of talent …

Ep 565: Building A Strategic TA Function

November 3rd, 2023

33:00

Talent Acquisition is in a state of fast-accelerating disruption, and it has never been more critical for TA leaders to demonstrate the strategic …

Ep 564: Recruiting In AI

November 2nd, 2023

16:57

AI and recruiting have been extensively discussed this year in podcasts, blogs, conferences, webinars and LinkedIn posts. However, the one angle I've not seen covered is what it is like to recruit for AI professionals. 


#HRTechConf Interviews w/Adam Godson

November 2nd, 2023

20:42

We had the opportunity to interview at #HRTech Conference Adam Godson, President and Chief Product Officer of Paradox.ai


  • Adam's unique journey, …

Energage's Dan Kessler on Data and Employer Brands

November 1st, 2023

28:28

How changes in hiring have impacted employer brands.

Employee Retention is a Thing w/ Madeline Laurano

November 1st, 2023

18:29

Employee retention. Ever heard of it? It’s kind of a big deal. See, employers would rather hold on to the existing crop of workers than have to go …

#HRTechConf Interviews w/Sachit Kamat

October 31st, 2023

15:21

TRF feat Sachit Kamat Chief Product Officer with Eightfold.ai


  • We were floored by the deep understanding of TA coming with Sachit from his days at …

Interview: ERIN CEO Mike Stafiej

October 30th, 2023

37:25

Did you happen to catch ERIN at the SHRM show this summer? If you did, you’re probably wearing a Chad & Cheese T-shirt right now. You also probably learned about a start-up in the employee referral space who just …

Ep 563: How Will AI Change TA? (Live at RecFest)

October 27th, 2023

32:39

This time last year, most of us hadn't heard of generative AI, but it has dominated our industry discourse in 2024. The dramatic emergence of generative AI has illustrated how fast disruption is accelerating and has …

#hrtechconf CEO Michel Fitzsimmons

October 26th, 2023

16:41

We had the opportunity to interview Crosschq CEO Michael Fitzsimmons on the floor at #HRTechconf


  • Most Recruiters have a story or two about candidate …

Peoplelogic's Matt Schmidt on Performance Data and Engagement

October 25th, 2023

20:03

Using the tools employees use in their work to get a sense of engagement.

Failing Child Labor Laws with Reid Maki

October 25th, 2023

31:15

The low standards around child labor laws in America are enough to make anyone think they're taking crazy pills. Shockingly, many states and local governments are going backward when it comes to protecting our most …

#HRTechConf Interviews w/Pete Lamson

October 24th, 2023

22:15

Pete Lamson CEO at Employ joins us for an interview at HR Technology Conference.


  • JazzHR became the darling of ATS solutions in the SMB market. Pete …

Ep 561: Building The Foundations Of Skills-Based Hiring

October 20th, 2023

28:21

Having covered both topics extensively on the podcast this year, I'm very much of the opinion that the move towards skills-based thinking will be more disruptive to recruiting norms than the rapid adoption of generative …

MoonHub's MoonShot

October 20th, 2023

36:44

This week on TRF we cover:


  • Will resumes disappear in the next 5 years? Shelley is confident they will, Serge sees things differently.


  • No FOMO here. As …

Ep 560: Hiring For The Future

October 18th, 2023

32:11

The business world is changing quickly, and the skill sets that employees need are constantly shifting, developing and evolving. So, how can …

HRTech Interviews w/Anoop Gupta

October 17th, 2023

16:51

The HR Technology Conference gave us the opportunity to interview some brilliant minds and this episode is no exception as we welcomed Anoop Gupta …

Firing Squad: Vette's Amber Wanner

October 9th, 2023

33:33

Recruiting startups hoping to replace human beings in the hiring process - or at least minimize them - litter the landscape. Chatbots, for example, are all the rage. At least one startup, however, thinks you can have …

Encore: ServiceNow’s Melanie Lougee on Covid, Service Delivery and Lessons Learned

October 6th, 2023

22:52

What ServiceNow does for HR, how businesses navigated the turn toward remote work and what they’ve learned from the experience.

ADP's Roberto Masiero on AI, Smart Apps and What Comes Next

October 4th, 2023

23:54

We discuss smart apps, building products around data and what comes after ADP's Roll?

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Peter Huang

October 4th, 2023

53:52

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Dr. Peter Huang. Dr. Huang is the author of Disrupting Racism: Essays by an Asian American Prodigy …

Personalized Employer Brand w/Amit Parmar

October 3rd, 2023

32:13

With 18 years in Talent Management and TA, Amit brings the lived experience to starting an HR Tech firm. He has the most unconventional career path, from Bio-Chemist to HR to Tech Founder, Amit has taken a path never …

The AI Guru Talks Regulations

October 2nd, 2023

38:44

The word audit scares most people. Hello, IRS? But sometimes audits can be your best friend for getting a good night’s sleep, especially when A.I. …

Ep 556: How AI Is Transforming Recruiting

September 29th, 2023

28:01

We've talked about generative AI a lot this year and its incredible potential to change and disrupt talent acquisition. A lot of our industry conversation has been about creating with Large Language Models to generate …

Ep 555: Using Skills To Predict Job Performance

September 28th, 2023

25:58

When we're talking about the future of talent acquisition, Generative AI has been taking all of the limelight this year. However, arguably, although …

Borderless CEO Matt Robison on No-Code VR

September 27th, 2023

19:43

Evolving VR production and solutions throughout the organization.

Will AI Take Recruiter Jobs w/ Amy Butchko

September 27th, 2023

31:29

“Is recruiting dead?” On this episode, Chad Sowash goes straight for the jugular and doesn’t let up. Fortunately, Amy Butchko, VP of TA at Maximus, …

Preboarding w/Parker Pell

September 27th, 2023

32:18

We welcome Parker Pell from AbodeHR on this week's episode.


HR Tech Founders who have never worked in HR, Park your bias at the door until you listen …

Firing Squad: Hyperjob's Janis Kreilis

September 25th, 2023

39:27

Effective LinkedIn outreach can be the difference between a recruiter on Skid Row and one on Easy St. One start-up that promises to put headhunters …

Ep 554: Perfect Business Storytelling

September 22nd, 2023

24:53

Regular listeners will know just how essential I believe it is for talent acquisition to learn the art and science of storytelling. Being able to …

Ep 552: The Strategic Value of Talent Acquisition

September 20th, 2023

29:37

The talent acquisition landscape is changing rapidly. 2024 has been difficult for many people in the profession, with many layoffs and an incredibly …

Intellum's Geri Morgan on AI, Learning and Changes in HR

September 20th, 2023

21:59

The rush to create AI solutions, and how technology is changing the work of HR

Getting Inclusive AF with Becky Evan

September 20th, 2023

56:29

In this episode, Katee chats with Becky Evan about her research around social identity theory (SIT) to examine how White diversity, equity, and …

Special Delivery! How UPS Leverages Text Recruiting

September 18th, 2023

27:12

Text messaging, or SMS, first came into prominence two decades ago by voting on American Idol, but the technology is as hot as ever for employers. …

Ep 551: Interviewerless Interviewing

September 17th, 2023

24:21

If you have been listening to the recent episodes of the show, you'll have noticed the considerable amount of innovation currently happening in …

Ep 550: Promotion, Motivation, Commitment and Retention

September 15th, 2023

21:01

Attitudes to work are more complex and varied than ever, making identifying trends and patterns harder. There are currently critical questions around retention and productivity that employers need to understand. So, how …

Beekeeper's Cris Grossman on Supporting Front-Line Workers

September 15th, 2023

16:55

We talk about how AI helps manage deskless workers, the dynamics of usability and other concerns of the front line.

Getting Inclusive AF with Sarah Morgan

September 13th, 2023

57:04

During this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with their friend, Sarah Morgan about conferences overall and a wonderful summit she is hosting in …

InStride's Jonathan Lau on Learning, Technology and the Future

September 13th, 2023

22:16

Changes in learning, the role of AI and how advanced technology could make it all more dynamic.

Ep 549: Rethinking Work, Jobs and Recruiting

September 13th, 2023

38:37

The way we describe work and jobs is mostly by long-standing assumptions that have been in place since the Industrial Revolution. The world is now a …

Firing Squad: Skillit's Fraser Patterson

September 13th, 2023

36:58

What a start-up calls itself usually says a lot about it. It can also say a lot about its prospects for future success. Enter Skillit, a company that connects the supply of skilled workers with contractor demand in the …

Pay Transparency Directive w/ Maria Colacurcio & Anita Lettink

September 11th, 2023

40:56

Europe has been a leader when it comes to passing laws that protect individual privacy and support pay equity for years, and a new law taking hold …

Choosing Technology Vendors

September 11th, 2023

39:58

This week while we're enjoying Recfest in Nashville we decided to release a recent webinar that we did with the crew at Nurse Recruitment Experts https://nurserecruitmentx.com/

Here are some of the questions we try to …

Ep 548: Rethinking Background Checks

September 8th, 2023

26:41

We've featured several employers on the show with recruiting strategies focusing on hiring people with criminal histories. All of these employers have spoken about the benefits for the people they hire, the benefits …

The Hidden Impacts of Promotions

September 8th, 2023

21:59

There's a lot about promotions you haven't thought of

isolved's Pragya Malhotra on What's Real and What's Not With AI

September 6th, 2023

20:57

Balancing AI’s hype and AI’s reality, the impact on HR and how long can this buzz last?

Are Newspapers Still Relevant for Employers? Kinda.

September 6th, 2023

22:19

Newbies in recruiting have a hard time understanding the time when newspapers ruled the world of work and finding talent. Gannett was one of those …

Getting Inclusive AF with Roxy Manning, PhD.

September 6th, 2023

53:28

🎙️🌍 The Inclusive AF Podcast: Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Roxy Manning 🌍🎙️


In this thought-provoking episode, we dive deep into the world of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging with the brilliant Dr. Roxy …

Ep 547: Generative AI - A Deep Dive

September 5th, 2023

43:24

It has been an extraordinary year for technology. We can all broadly agree that the effect of generative AI will be transformational for talent …

The Toggle Tax w/Adam Gordon

September 5th, 2023

24:35

This week on TRF we welcome Adam Gordon Founder of Poetry.


Internationally famous as the recurring co-host on Recruiting Brainfood Live with Hung Lee …

Ep 546: Transforming Frontline Hiring

August 31st, 2023

39:00

Frontline hiring continues to be highly challenging with ongoing labor shortages in many countries. The business impact of understaffing is both significant and quantifiable, meaning hiring speed is a critical lever for …

Ep 545: Using AI Strategically

August 30th, 2023

20:59

Earlier in the summer, I collaborated with the SmartRecruiters team to interview four fantastic practitioners who spoke on The Hiring Without …

Safeguard Global CTO Duri Chitayat on AI and the 'Speed of Change'

August 30th, 2023

19:30

How businesses keep up with change, hiring for AI (it's not easy), and designing HR’s strategies to use advanced technology.

Getting Inclusive AF with Sheryl Cababa

August 30th, 2023

1:00:02

🎧 Tune in to the latest episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, where we dive deep into the world of inclusive design and equity-centered practices with our special guest, Sheryl Cababa. 🌍💙


Join us as Sheryl, a former …

Practitioner Series w/Deanna Brousseau

August 29th, 2023

30:05

If you ever wondered if TikTok is an effective communication channel for TA, Deanna is the creative & comic genius who cranked up LinkedIn outreach response rates from 45% to 85% with her video posts. 


As the …

Seven Circles of Compliance Hell with Jocelyn King

August 28th, 2023

21:29

In the past, we’ve been critical of SHRM investing money into startups. Seems like a big conflict of interest, but whatever. Since SHRM isn’t running to talk to Chad & Chelsea about it, how about the next best …

Oyster HR's Kim Rohrer on the Disillusioned Workforce

August 25th, 2023

17:41

Employees are asking more questions about the meaning and purpose of their work.

Ep 544: Transforming TA Teams

August 25th, 2023

23:42

Earlier in the summer, I collaborated with the SmartRecruiters team to interview four fantastic practitioners who spoke on The Hiring Without …

Ep 543: Hiring At Speed And Scale

August 24th, 2023

21:05

Earlier in the summer, I collaborated with the SmartRecruiters team to interview four fantastic practitioners who spoke on The Hiring Without …

Interview: Kudoboard Co-Founder, CEO

August 23rd, 2023

18:02

Employees love to be recognized. It’s not just promotions and big deals, however. We’re talkin' birthdays, anniversaries, adopting a cat, everything. OK, maybe not a cat adoption, but you know what we mean. That’s why …

The Brand Plan w/James Ellis and Marcus Body

August 22nd, 2023

46:29

The Recruitment Flex Feat. The Brand Plan Podcast hosts Marcus Body & James Ellis


The pairing of James and Marcus is the employer brand & TA’s …

What's My Problem with Josh Rock

August 21st, 2023

27:27

It’s a rare breed of professional that has worked on the vendor side of HR tech, as well as the TA practitioner side. So, when we got the opportunity to chat with Josh Rock, currently Talent Acquisition Manager at Nuss …

Ep 542: Building A Global TA Strategy

August 18th, 2023

20:51

Being a Global Head of TA in 2023 is highly challenging. Dealing with disrupted talent markets and global hiring nuances while building a consistent …

Remote Work Tug of War w/ Mary Elkordy

August 16th, 2023

23:50

The work-from-home movement is under fire. Jamie Dimon says it’s a productivity issue. Elon Musk says it’s a moral issue. As a result, more and more …

Remove the Fear w/Omar Khateeb

August 15th, 2023

35:31

We met Omar Khateeb CEO of JobPixel at Unleash and we were impressed with what he was building!


Omar joins us with some practical advice and shares …

A Wild Ride to Rivian /w Rameen Fattahi

August 14th, 2023

45:05

Ever wanted to hear an interview with a former recruiter at Facebook, Apple and Tesla? How about one that’s currently blazing a trail at EV maker Rivian? Well, it’s your lucky day, because Chad & Cheese sat down …

isolved's Geoff Webb on AI and the HR Tech of Small Business

August 11th, 2023

25:31

The AI needs of small business and how vendors are trying to address them.

Ep 540: AI & Recruitment Marketing

August 11th, 2023

29:12

A few short months ago, many commentators predicted that AI would be a revolutionary force in recruitment marketing that would drive automation, …

Ep 539: Building TA Technology Strategies

August 10th, 2023

25:08

The amount of technology available to TA teams has exploded, and innovation is moving so rapidly that it is almost impossible to keep up. In a world …

Getting Inclusive AF with Nani Vishwanath

August 9th, 2023

50:14

In this thought-provoking episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, join guest speaker Nani Vishwanath as she delves into the future of work and its impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). From hybrid and remote …

Discipline is Key w/ Shannon Pritchett

August 9th, 2023

19:41

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Shannon Pritchett, head of marketing and community at HireEZ, joins the boys for a conversation covering the state of sourcing, how HireEZ is embracing ChatGPT and other …

Future of TATech w/Stephen O'Donnell

August 8th, 2023

34:15

This week we have the honour to have industry legend Stephen O'Donnell.


TA Tech’s Chief Growth Officer and founder of NORA, the national online …

Firing Squad: InSquad's Alex Svinov

August 7th, 2023

34:23

Tech hiring is in kind of a weird place right now. Newsworthy layoffs, artificial intelligence threats, and a down economy mean a lot of indecision …

What Happens When: Mergers and Acquisitions

August 4th, 2023

31:21

When you see a merger, congratulate both firms. Growing a software company isn’t easy, and exits are important.

Ep 538: The Rise Of Short-Form Video

August 4th, 2023

26:04

Over the last few years, TikTok has driven a revolution in short-form video content, racking up billions of views and forcing its competitors to …

Ep 537: Strategic Workforce Planning

August 2nd, 2023

16:14

One of the key themes I've observed emerging over the last few years is the need for employers to think about talent holistically. To achieve this, …

Getting Inclusive AF with Shalita Grant

August 2nd, 2023

55:53

Join us for an empowering and informative episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast as we sit down with the incredible Shalita Grant to discuss all things inclusive hair care! ✨In this episode, Katee Van Horn and Jackye …

A.I. Trifecta: Military, Google, & Tom Hanks w/ Thom Kenney

July 31st, 2023

47:39

Just when you thought you understood the definition of artificial intelligence, along comes generative A.I. Confusing? Yeah. That’s why we invited Thom Kenney, former Smashfly CEO and current director at Google on the …

Appcast Acquires Bayard w/Chris Forman CEO Appcast

July 31st, 2023

28:33

When the classiest guy in HR Tech buys the nicest recruitment marketing agency, you get happy employees and delighted customers. 10 cities in 10 days to meet the Bayard team, he’s convinced this acquisition is a …

Mineral's Diane Haines on What AI Means to Small Business

July 28th, 2023

18:53

We talk about SMBs approach to AI and how it impacts learning, bias and transparency.

WorkJam's Will Eadie on Connecting the Deskless Worker

July 26th, 2023

25:34

What do front-line and deskless workers need – and want – from their technology?

Recruiter Hacks in a Bottle w/ Angad Madra

July 26th, 2023

19:46

Not sure if you’ve heard or not, but recruiting and retaining healthcare professionals is a hot topic these days. No one has really figured out the …

Indeed Mirage & Business Blockers w/ Julia Levy

July 24th, 2023

17:52

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Julia Levy, industry veteran, superfan of the podcast, and former head of global talent acquisition …

Abundantly's Randall Diamond on Recognition, Technology and Managers

July 21st, 2023

18:13

Recognition and technology, what managers think of these newfangled tools, and getting whiplash from following the business world.

Getting Inclusive AF with Michelle Rhee

July 20th, 2023

52:55

In this episode, Jackye flies solo with Michelle Rhee. Michelle Rhee is cofounder of BuildWithin, a software platform that provides employers with …

Hired's Samantha Friedman Looks at DEI in Tech Jobs

July 19th, 2023

16:45

DEI in technology, good news and bad news for underrepresented groups, and the impact of salary transparency.

Ep 536: AI -Benefits, Risks and Potential

July 19th, 2023

19:53

AI has dominated the discussion for months now, and if recent conversations are anything to go by, this shows no sign of letting up. However, the initial hysteria is fading, and the hype is slowly turning into …

Canada's Tech Talent Plan w/Ilya Brotzky

July 18th, 2023

29:10


This week Ilya Brotzky from VanHack joins us and there is lots to celebrate.


As they round the corner to nearly 2,000 hires and the VC market fell in love with what they do and how they are doing it with a $3M funding.


As …

Firing Squad: Kula's Achu Ravi

July 17th, 2023

35:03

Automated sourcing, referrals and analytics are all pretty popular features to have in your tech stack these days, but what about a startup that …

Crosschq's Mike Fitzsimmons on Putting People Data to Work

July 14th, 2023

24:43

We explore insights that can help hire, retain and develop your workforce.

ADP’s Chief Data Officer, Jack Berkowitz Says HR Really Likes Using Data

July 12th, 2023

19:20

HR data’s been a topic of discussion for some time, and Berkowitz spends a lot of time working with the practitioners and managers who use it.

Ep 535: Hiring Enablement

July 12th, 2023

21:45

Hiring has changed. Over the last three years, candidate expectations have evolved dramatically, and many hiring teams are not keeping pace with this …

Grow At All Costs w/ Vanessa Burnaby

July 12th, 2023

17:50

Another top-notch interview from our time at iCIMS Inspire in the spring. This one features Vanessa Burnaby, VP of Global TA at Avalara, a …

De-Risking Hiring w/Caitlin MacGregor

July 11th, 2023

37:07

This week Serge sans Shelley interviews one of our favourite person in the industry Caitlin MacGregor CEO of Plum.io

Try your own Plum profile:

Belly to Belly w/ Sean Christian

July 10th, 2023

27:47

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Sean Christian, senior employer brand & recruitment strategist at Discount Tire, and former Air Force recruiter, joins Chad & Cheese for a lively discussion … …

Joonko, DEI and William Tincup

July 7th, 2023

26:30

Joonko developed a hiring platform focused on DEI, employed dozens of people, and raised $38 million. Now it’s gone.

Ep 534: AI & Executive Search

July 5th, 2023

23:16

The potential impact of AI on Talent Acquisition is 2023's biggest talking point, but what impact will these new technologies have on …

Getting Inclusive AF with Beth Ridley

July 5th, 2023

52:11

In this episode, Katee and Jackye sit down with Beth Ridley. Beth is a corporate executive turned organizational transformation consultant, speaker, …

F*ck Interviews w/Stephane Rivard

July 4th, 2023

29:08

We first met Steph and the Hiring Branch at the Unleash America in Las Vegas. They hosted a bunch of HR podcasters from every corner of the globe, …

Shifting Talent Tectonics with Steven Hunt

July 3rd, 2023

24:42

Shifting demographics combined with the digitalization of all aspects of life are transforming the nature of work. This is forcing companies to rethink how they design jobs and recruit, develop, and engage employees. …

Ep 533: Engaging With Top Talent

June 30th, 2023

21:25

Despite months of layoffs and challenging economic news, engaging with top talent is still very hard. It's even harder if you are hiring for an employer with very little profile or brand awareness in your target talent …

A New Approach to Comparing, Selecting Health Benefits

June 28th, 2023

22:15

Benefit Sculptor CEO Erick Kuhni talks about data, Covid’s impact on benefits and understanding employees’ needs.

Inclusive AF with Dr. Raymona Lawrence

June 28th, 2023

47:08

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Dr. Raymona Lawrence. Dr. Raymona H. Lawrence is the Founder and CEO of Dr. Raymona H Lawrence Coaching, LLC. Her life's work and heartfelt mission are to help individuals …

HR Tech Funding and M&A w/ Georgios Markakis

June 28th, 2023

29:56

Let’s look at a few trends going on in workforce tech right now: inflation, layoffs, lack of VC funding, tightening budgets, and technological …

Video is the Way w/Maury Hanigan

June 27th, 2023

34:01

This week we welcome Maury Hanigan of SparcStart


Long before anyone was connecting the dots between traditional marketing and recruitment, Maury saw the enormous potential of bring boring job descriptions to life using …

beqom's CPO Aisling Teillard on AI, Bias and (of Course) ChatGPT

June 26th, 2023

29:23

We talk about the impact AI might have on HR, legislation that touches AI, the realities of bias and, of course, ChatGPT.

Ep 531: Kindness, Data & The Candidate Experience

June 23rd, 2023

25:20

Many aspects of recruiting have changed significantly over the last two decades, with technology continuing to drive rapid leaps forward in …

Getting Inclusive AF with Maria Morukian

June 21st, 2023

49:41

In this episode, Katee talks to Maria Morukian. Maria is an organizational consultant, coach, and facilitator specializing in diversity, equity, …

3Sixty Insights' Brent Skinner on the Realities of Single Suite Solutions

June 21st, 2023

21:00

Different solutions for different needs, but it's all headed in one direction.

Ep 530: Workforce Resilience

June 21st, 2023

24:39

Despite the current economic issues, many businesses face a talent crisis. Skill shortages are part of the picture, but perhaps most worrying for business leaders are low levels of engagement and retention as …

Firing Squad: SHAZAMME's Rick Maré

June 19th, 2023

38:59

Landing pages? Wait, did I hear you correctly? A platform for landing pages?

That's correct and, in this Deja, vu moment Rick Maré and the team over at SHAZAMME are betting on a platform that helps hiring companies build …

ADP's Jack Berkowitz on Data and Social Good

June 16th, 2023

19:11

We talk with Jack Berkowitz, the chief data officer at ADP.

Ep 529: Developing Digital Skills

June 16th, 2023

27:12

The tech sector has been going through an unprecedented period of layoffs in the last few months. However, the demand for digital skills in the wider market will continue for years.


So what strategies are employers …

Peak Geezer Performance w/ Jason Cochran and Ira Wolfe

June 14th, 2023

48:20

Four podcasters walk into a German bar in downtown Indianapolis to discuss the state of recruitment and chaos ensues. You know (and love) two of the …

Traffic Guru w/Mark Parent

June 13th, 2023

31:57

Dedicating a career to helping job boards and businesses increase traffic, Mark, formerly the Performance Marketing brains behind Snag-a-job, set out …

Innovation to Integration w/ Bennett Sung

June 12th, 2023

19:58

Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Bennett Sung, co-founder at New Cherry and longtime industry know-it-all, joins the show to talk about everything from employer branding to the hottest takeaways from …

Bonusly's Raphael Crawford-Marks on the Challenges of Engagement

June 9th, 2023

22:05

We talk about engagement and what’s changing with it, the impact of new ways of work, and what employees think about it all.

Ep 528: Social Mobility Via Talent Engagement

June 9th, 2023

25:14

It's very encouraging that an increasing number of employers are committing to play their part in improving social mobility. It is becoming clear, though, that transactional and short term attempts at talent engagement …

Getting Inclusive AF with Lia Valencia Key

June 8th, 2023

52:41

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Lia Valencia Key about her life, her mom, and how to live your life to the fullest and share joy!


If you …

Ep 527: Culture As A Hiring Differentiator

June 7th, 2023

31:49

The employee/employer relationship is changing; employee engagement is at an all-time low, and countless research studies tell us that a significant proportion of the workforce is considering quitting their jobs. At the …

SAP SuccessFactors' Aaron Green Looks at HR and ChatGPT

June 7th, 2023

20:04

ChatGPT has people looking at new ways of working, and what impact AI may have on both business and HR.

HR Tech Noise w/ James Appleton

June 7th, 2023

18:02

Live from UNLEASH America in Las Vegas, James Appleton, director of talent acquisition at Harri, joins Chad & Cheese for a conversation about the other side of the coin … ya' know, life through the eyes of a …

F*CK INTERVIEWS w/ Stephane Rivard

June 5th, 2023

13:46

Interviews kinda suck. There’s got to be a better mousetrap, right? That’s why we brought Stephane Rivard, CEO & founder at Hiring Branch on the podcast. Proudly wearing a T-shirt that says “F*CK INTERVIEWS,” …

Ep 526: Building The Business Case for TA Technology

June 2nd, 2023

29:28

Effective technology is a critical pillar of any TA strategy, and with the current unprecedented pace of innovation, regularly reviewing the tech …

Ep 525: Using AI As A Co-Pilot

May 30th, 2023

25:52

The vast amount of hype, speculation, opinion, and hyperbole around generative AI can make it difficult to know how to start integrating it into the …

Julie Sowash w/Disability Solutions

May 30th, 2023

31:27

TRF feat Julie Sowash, Executive Director at Disability Solutions


We finally get to introduce you to Julie Sowash. Dedicating her career to helping …

Women Exit w/ Shannon Lucas & Tracey Lovejoy

May 29th, 2023

38:38

A new study says for every woman stepping into a director-level leadership role at work, two are choosing to leave. Forty-three percent of women …

Talent Acquisition's Elephants w/ Manjuri Sinha

May 22nd, 2023

37:03

This episode is a masterclass in understanding Talent Acquisition and Talent Management business strategy through the eyes of Manjuri Sinha, Global Director of Talent Acquisition at OLX, and Quincy "Queen of Chatbots" …

Cangrade's Gershon Goren on the Dynamics of AI and Talent Acquisition

May 19th, 2023

23:14

AI evolves -- and keeps gaining ground in talent acquisition.

Ep 521: Rebuilding Employer Brands

May 17th, 2023

26:48

There is a strong argument that Employer Branding has never been more relevant or important. The last few months have seen many employers making layoffs as they respond to market conditions and some sense of …

ChartHop's Ian White on Data, People Operations and Workforce Management

May 17th, 2023

18:21

The “action” aspects of data, why data matters to engagement, what it does for managers and the importance of organization-wide knowledge.

Getting Inclusive AF with Stefaa De Vreese

May 17th, 2023

42:28

In this episode, we talk with Stefaa DeVreese. Stefaan (he/him), born and raised in Belgium, is a true serial entrepreneur. He is the founder and CEO …

LIVE at iCIMS Inspire

May 15th, 2023

31:53

The LIVE onstage energy is back with this performance, complete with two amazing guests, Lauree Porter, Director of HR Systems at PENN Entertainment, and Christy Spilka, Global Head of TA at iCIMS who help the boys …

Ep 520: Human Storytelling

May 13th, 2023

24:00

Storytelling is one of the things that makes humans human. In recruitment marketing and employer branding, stories persuade, create empathy and drive the emotional connections that make people take action.


With the rise …

ELB Learning's Mark Zides on the Shifting Technology Landscape

May 12th, 2023

15:00

We talk about AI, video, virtual reality and ChatGPT, of course.

Catching Up with Jackye and Katee

May 11th, 2023

38:49

In this episode, Jackye and Katee catch up on current events and how we are doing after much travel and conference time.


If you like what you hear, we …

Working Data: Almas Insight CEO Rob Savette

May 10th, 2023

19:53

How data can change discussions about your workforce, and how to make it happens.

Turnover Contagion w/ Andrea Derler

May 10th, 2023

29:58

Did you know quitting a company is contagious? Yeah, us either. Luckily, there are really smart people looking at data and making such conclusions. That’s why we invited Andrea Derler, Ph.D., principal, research and …

Unleash Interviews: Mike Ehrle CEO Clickboarding

May 9th, 2023

16:58

As part of our Unleash interview series, we had the privilege of speaking with Clickboarding CEO Mike Ehrle.


  • Mike shared his fascinating journey in …

Build, Buy, or Partner with Chris Conrad

May 8th, 2023

30:55

Build, buy, or partner? Fewer questions have dogged mankind as much as this one, especially when it comes to HR tech. That’s why Chad & Cheese added Textkernel’s VP of sales in North America, Chris Conrad, to get to …

Ep 518: Talking About The Future

May 5th, 2023

35:14

At the beginning of May, I attended UNLEASH America as a podcaster and panel host. It was UNLEASH's biggest event to date in the US, and the content and conversations were excellent. As you can imagine, the implications …

Nava's Donald DeSantis on Healthcare Benefits and What Makes Them Work

May 3rd, 2023

24:59

The nuts and bolts of the business and the technology that supports it.

E5 - Pivots Happen

May 3rd, 2023

24:47

From a name change to another pivot, HourWork caught a wave that resulted in nearly 10,000 clients signing up. Additionally, more investments poured …

E4 - Calculated

May 3rd, 2023

15:51

We often hear about the inception of companies secondhand, but in this episode, you have the opportunity to hear it straight from the mouth of a co-founder. Rahkeem Morris, the CEO and founder of HourWork, shares his …

E3 - The Google Whiteboard

May 3rd, 2023

16:56

Have you ever imagined being in charge of managing more than $1 billion in corporate expenses, especially in your mid-twenties, and for a renowned Silicon Valley giant? Well, in this episode, we catch up with Rahkeem …

E2 - Riding the Bus

May 3rd, 2023

11:19

Prepare to gain a fresh perspective on Taco Bell. In this episode, we continue our conversation with HourWork's CEO and founder, Rahkeem Morris, as he shares his experiences of working demanding hourly jobs while …

E1 - Small Town Vibes

May 3rd, 2023

14:18

Do you believe your childhood was difficult? Well, think again. In this episode, we have a virtual chat with Rahkeem Morris, the CEO and founder of …

Unleash.ai CEO Marc Coleman

May 2nd, 2023

15:20

Recording from the media center at Ceasar’s Forum conference center, we talked to the man behind the vision of Unleash.ai CEO Marc Coleman


200 speakers

Getting The Pulse w/ Mike Woodrow

May 1st, 2023

35:20

It’s helpful to check the pulse of the recruitment industry from time-to-time. It’s especially useful when the company rep who comes on the show has …

Ep 517: Aligning Benefits To Values

April 27th, 2023

28:09

For many companies, remote and hybrid working has spotlighted compensation and benefits strategies. How do you determine pay levels for the same job across different national and international geographies, and how can …

Ep 516: The Changing Workforce

April 24th, 2023

19:44

The balance of the workforce is changing. Remote working, talent scarcity and evolving attitudes to jobs and careers are driving the increasing use …

iCIMS' Front Row Seat w/ Al Smith

April 24th, 2023

34:38

Al Smith, CTO at iCIMS, is back on the podcast recording from his front-row seat to the AI race, he talks ChatGPT, chatbots deciding to compete with applicant tracking systems like his, what we can expect from the …

Ep 515: AI And The Future Of Talent Acquisition

April 20th, 2023

20:36

The public launch of ChatGPT continues to drive enormous levels of hype about the impact of AI on life, the universe and everything. So what are the implications of generative AI on talent acquisition, how will it shape …

Oracle Cloud HCM's Chris Havrilla on Data, Experience and Putting Them to Use

April 19th, 2023

19:47

Chris Havrilla, vice president of Talent for Oracle Cloud HCM, thinks a lot about data and experience, how to use them for attracting new talent, and managing existing staff.

Ep 514: Build, Maintain & Leverage Your Network

April 19th, 2023

27:53

Talent Acquisition is changing, work is changing, and careers are changing. It has perhaps never been more critical to build and cultivate a …

Ep 513: Building Connection In A Hybrid World

April 14th, 2023

31:00

One of the biggest challenges of remote and hybrid working is the lack of face-to-face connection that humans need to be fully engaged and …

The Ins and Outs of Post-Pandemic Pay

April 12th, 2023

16:41

We talk about new ways to look at pay since the pandemic, how different employers take different approaches and what transparency means today.x

Ep 512: Being More Agile

April 11th, 2023

23:03

As we move through 2023, the pace of disruption continues to intensify. The complexities and implications of the economic and technological …

Employer Branding for Small Business w/James Ellis

April 11th, 2023

42:19

James Ellis Author of Employer Branding for Small Business


We are big fans of James and were pleased to have a preview of his new book. Employer Branding for Small Business : Your blueprint to compete for talent against …

Firing Squad: Compt's Amy Spurling

April 10th, 2023

32:25

People love perks. Employees love them even more. Unfortunately, startups looking to make employee perks easy, scalable, and tax-compliant have come and gone over the years. Compt.io thinks they have a better mousetrap. …

Encore: WorkMarket’s Bridget Quinn Kirchner on the Impact of Contingent Work

April 7th, 2023

17:10

In this encore edition, we talk with Bridget Quinn Kirchner, senior director of client experience at the ADP company Work Market.

Ep 511: How To Be A Global Employer Of Choice

April 6th, 2023

27:00

It's now three years since the pandemic changed many people's work trajectories. While some companies have returned to the office and others are desperately trying to, remote and hybrid work continue to be the norm for …

Getting Inclusive AF with Enrique Rubio

April 5th, 2023

46:10

In this episode Jackye and Katee talk to Enrique Rubiio. Enrique is an HR, Tech and Future of Work expert, keynote speaker and founder of Hacking HR, a global learning community at the intersection of future of work, …

Alex Murphy w/JobSync

April 4th, 2023

32:40

Alex Murphy of JobSync

As Co-Founder and CEO, Alex’s career in HR Tech led him to the creation of JobSync. Making the complex application process simple yet remaining compliant. Partnering with job boards and most ATSs, …

APR 03: Deel, Ramp Global Partner; CoachHub Releases AI-Powered Coaching

April 3rd, 2023

5:22

This week in HR Technology: Deel partners with RAMP Global; Coachhub releases AI-powered career coaching.

Co-Opting Recruiting A.I.

April 3rd, 2023

1:11:17

Thank heavens for tenue... How else would The Chad & Cheese's brash, challenging, and no-bullshit attitude get in the same room, hell the same …

Getting Inclusive AF with Eric Bailey #WHLIVE2023

March 29th, 2023

33:55

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Eric Bailey about all things Work Human Live! Eric is a speaker again this year and we discuss how he got …

Building a Talent Powerhouse with Tech, Automation & Revenue Growth

March 27th, 2023

38:12

Today we have a special edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast for you today. Cue the ABBA music, which can only mean one thing, a Swedish twist as Sara Dalsfelt, Head of Brand and Community, over at Adway invited …

Getting Inclusive AF with Shai Poulard

March 23rd, 2023

54:34

In this episode, Katee chats with Shai Poulard, the Head of Global Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging at NerdWallet. Shai has ten years of …

Ep 506: Changing Expectations Of Work

March 22nd, 2023

20:13

As we move through the third anniversary of the first lockdowns, it is a good time to reflect on how the pandemic has changed our attitudes and expectations towards work.


Employers now have to think very differently …

ServiceNow's Paul Davies on Data, Technology and HR

March 22nd, 2023

15:29

The changes he’s seen and the changes he’s seeing now.

Fixing Factory Job Gaps w/ Patrick O'Rahilly

March 20th, 2023

26:58

Over 7 million men in America have opted out of the workforce. That’s a big problem for a lot of employers, but it’s an 800 lb. gorilla kind of problem for manufacturing businesses. So what the hell is going on? …

Getting Inclusive AF with Andres Sigcha

March 16th, 2023

46:33

In this episode, Jackye and Katee talk to Andres SIgcha. Andres, a native Ecuadorian, earned his Master's degree in 2018 after a journey that took …

Ep 504: The Future Of Video Interviewing

March 15th, 2023

37:31

In 2013, I wrote a report on the future of asynchronous video interviewing; while a few employers were experimenting with it, there was widespread …

Leverage Your Culture for Talent Acquisition

March 15th, 2023

16:42

Viva HR CEO Ryan Naylor talks about how companies can nurture their culture and why transparency is an employer's friend.

MAR 13: Lattice Launches People Strategy Group

March 13th, 2023

4:54

This week in HR tech: Lattice launches a people strategy group; Crosschq adds support for French, German, Italian and other languages.

Firing Squad: Wilco's On Freund

March 13th, 2023

36:26

We are total suckers for the ‘80s. That’s why we love Wilco’s website so much. If you haven’t checked it out, do yourself a favor if you love Pac-Man, Galaga, and Donkey Kong … basically, all-things 8-bit. Anyway, back …

Ep 503: Climate Jobs

March 10th, 2023

20:06

The climate emergency is the greatest challenge humans have ever faced, and it affects all of us. In August of last year, as part of The Inflation Reduction Act, the US federal government pledged $365 Billion to fight …

Ep 502: Digital Talent One Year On

March 7th, 2023

32:50

Digital Talent, the second book co-authored by Mervyn Dinnen and myself, came out a year ago this month. We've been blown away by the response to the book and want to thank everyone who has bought, read and shared it.


”There is no single labour market” w/Andrew Flowers

March 7th, 2023

45:55

This week we welcome Andrew Flowers, Labour Economist at Appcast. We go through the key findings of the 2023 Appcast Recruitment Marketing Benchmark …

MAR 6: New Module From Betterworks; Limeade Integrates With Teams

March 6th, 2023

5:49

This week in HRTech: Betterworks makes meeting more productive; Limeade integrates with Microsoft to make employee productivity accessible.

The People MBA with Jeff Lackey

March 6th, 2023

34:40

You've heard it before: "HR deserves a seat at the table." It's far from reality for most organizations that see talent acquisition as a cost center …

Paycor's Gal Almog on Where AI Will Take Recruiting

March 3rd, 2023

16:27

We talk with Paycor's Gal Almog about AI and recruiting, and where recruiting technology may be headed.

Getting Inclusive AF with Pam Luk

March 2nd, 2023

51:00

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Pam Luk. Pam Luk is the founder of Ember & Ace, an athletic wear brand for plus size kids. Growing up playing sports, she learned firsthand the importance of finding …

Encore: Diversity, Technology and HR

March 1st, 2023

14:54

Improving diversity seems like a very human exercise, but our guest brings data and technology to the task. 

Recruitment Marketing Expertise w/Lori Sylvia

February 28th, 2023

40:37

This week we welcome return guest Lori Sylvia Founder of Rally


As the founder of Rally, it has been Lori’s mission to teach marketing to recruiters. True to her mission and why she founded Rally, Lori’s hand is extended …

FEB 27: G-P Moves on Contractor Pay; Struggles with Pay Equity

February 27th, 2023

4:58

G-P Integrates with Wise to help employers pay international freelancers and contractors.

Reunion Squad: BrightHire's Teddy Chestnut

February 27th, 2023

28:10

Reunited, and it feels so good. Last time we talked to Teddy Chestnut cofounder at Brighthire - the self-proclaimed “first interview intelligence platform” - they were cleaning on big applauses on Firing Squad. That was …

3Sixty Insights' Brent Skinner on HR, Technology and Change

February 24th, 2023

27:46

3Sixty Insights' Brent Skinner talks about technology and HR’s changing role.

Nicky Hancock of AMS on HCM Technology's Changing Landscape

February 22nd, 2023

19:00

The evolution of HR tech, how to tell when a vendor is serious and what to do with consultants

Getting Inclusive AF with Aurora Higgs

February 22nd, 2023

1:00:25

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Aurora Higgs. Aurora (she/they) is a Black queer visionary and activist from Richmond, Va. Aurora works …

Ep 499: Strategic Talent Acquisition

February 21st, 2023

24:57

TA Leaders are under tremendous pressure as we move through 2023. Many are dealing with acute talent shortages, others have to downsize their team, and everyone is attempting to make sense of the implications of rapidly …

hireEZ's Shannon Pritchett on AI and Recruiting

February 17th, 2023

14:20

We talk about AI in recruiting, the thinking behind their development, and the principles of AI.

Thriversity's Brianna Rooney on the Dynamics of Recruiting Today

February 15th, 2023

19:44

We talk about recruiting, recruiting in this economy, the Great Resignation and more.

Getting Inclusive AF with Eli Rigatuso, Part 2

February 15th, 2023

52:16

If you liked the first half of this episode, you will want to listen to part 2, where Katee and Jackye dig in even deeper with Eli. We could have …

The Promise of AI w/ Ryan Steelberg

February 15th, 2023

26:28

ChatGPT. Deep fakes. Avatars. Google's Bard. In case you haven't noticed, artificial intelligence is changing the game. That's why we have Ryan Steelberg, Veritone's CEO and President, back on the show to check-in on …

Communication is Hard w/David Bernstein

February 15th, 2023

35:29

David Bernstein at PivotCX.io


Return guest, David is valued friend of the show who has endorsed & connected us to some great contacts in the HR Tech world.


David is the SVP of Corporate Development & Strategy at …

Roe vs Wade's Corp Impact

February 13th, 2023

35:22

Roe v. Wade being overturned has caused a wave of political upheaval in the United States, and many employers are being impacted. It's a big deal, …

Sounding Board's Christine Tao on Coaching and Technology

February 10th, 2023

19:37

We talk about coaching and technology, the role of data, tailoring coaching to the individual, and more

Ep 496: Challenging A Narrow Definition Of Talent

February 9th, 2023

20:57

I always find it encouraging to see many employers focusing on social mobility to diversify their workforces. However, much more needs doing, and some seismic shifts are required to broaden the narrow definition of …

Getting Inclusive AF with Eli Rigatuso, Part I

February 8th, 2023

52:35

In the first half of this conversation, Jackye and Katee chat with Eli Rigatuso. It was so good, we kept recording for a part II right away. You'll get that episode next week!


So who is Eli? He identifies as a queer, …

Calendly's Head of Recruiting on TA, Scheduling and Their Fit

February 8th, 2023

15:00

Kelly Minella, Calendly head of recruiting has a unique view of talent acquisition – and scheduling. We look at both... and how they fit together.

The Job Board Doctor w/Jeff Dickey-Chasins

February 7th, 2023

33:36

 Welcome return guest the Job Board Doctor Jeff Dickey-Chasins


Jeff consults to 100’s of job boards from around the world, he brings a wealth of …

The Guild Effect

February 6th, 2023

34:09

Re-skilling and up-skilling were a common theme throughout 2022, and it shows no signs of slowing down as we head into 2023. Turns out, offering candidates and employees the opportunity to grow professionally is great …

Phenom VP Cliff Jurkiewicz on Video Assessments

February 3rd, 2023

25:25

We get into what they are, their impact on the user experience and more.

Ep 494: Confidence and Resilience

February 3rd, 2023

26:29

Whatever part of the industry you are in, you will be facing uncertain times as we start to move through 2023. On top of the obvious economic factors, Talent Acquisition is heading into a period of dramatic reinvention …

Ep 493: The Growing Value Of TA Operations

February 2nd, 2023

20:21

Talent Acquisition is continuing to grow in complexity. Technology is becoming more disruptive, recruiting methodologies are getting more …

CoderPad CEO Amanda Richardson on Developers, Interviews and Tech

February 1st, 2023

12:14

The challenges involved with interviewing developers, how candidates react to new technology tools and more,

Getting Inclusive AF with Dasha Dare

February 1st, 2023

49:19

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Dasha Dare. She is a NYC-based professional photographer and an ICF-certified executive life coach.

Her …

Moving on with Empathy w/Sarah Rodehorst

January 31st, 2023

31:11

Sarah brings personal experience and deep industry expertise in creating OnwardsHR.com, a severance automation platform. 


Highlight of our …

Firing Squad: JobPixel's Omar Khateeb

January 30th, 2023

31:35

Video. All the kids are doin' it. But how about employers? Start-up JobPixel is pretty confident TikTok-style video is the future of recruiting. That's why Omar Khateeb CEO & founder at JobPixel decided to come on …

Korn Ferry's Purbita Banerjee on the Dynamics of Tech's Workforce

January 27th, 2023

23:17

We talk to Korn Ferry's SVP about the dynamics of today’s workforce, labor shortages and HR tech and, of course, skills.

LumApps' Mary Kaplan on Secrets of the Employee Experience

January 25th, 2023

20:55

What employee experience is made of, the importance of communications and what employers think of it all.

Getting Inclusive AF with Leah Daniels

January 25th, 2023

47:18

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Leah Daniels. Leah’s experience in the Talent Acquisition space spans the recruiting funnel from top to bottom. Before JobSync, Leah was an executive with the programmatic job …

Reunion Squad: TalkPush's Max Armbruster

January 23rd, 2023

29:34

Back in 2018, we had a little competition called Death Match that pitted four startups against each other to win a coveted gold chain. It was New …

Filtered's Dan Finnigan on Today's Assessments

January 20th, 2023

24:13

The changing role of job simulations, and what candidates think about them.

Ep 491: Can TA Drive Internal Mobility?

January 19th, 2023

20:32

We're still only at the start of 2023, but it's already clear that it will be another challenging and complex year for talent acquisition. With so much disruption, TA Leaders must be able to prove their value to their …

Dad Dancing w/ Bill Boorman

January 18th, 2023

27:22

To say Bill Boorman has been around the recruitment block a time or two is like admitting fish and chips is a little heavy. Both are well-known facts. That’s why we had to grab Bill at UNLEASH World in Paris for his …

Simply Get Results' John Haines Talks About Skills

January 18th, 2023

17:25

We discuss skills, of course, and also people, data and decision-making.

Getting Inclusive AF with Alison Rapping

January 18th, 2023

54:48

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Alison Rapping, CEO of the Arouet Foundation, an organization dedicated to supporting, mentoring and …

Skills Based Talent Management w/Leah Carr

January 17th, 2023

34:48

We welcome another great Canadian HRtech start up. Although we didn't get to meet Leah in person at HRTech last fall, we were finally able to align …

HR Acuity Launches New Tool; Companies Look to Raise Headcounts

January 16th, 2023

5:10

HR Acuity unveiled a new maturity model, the Employee Relations Quotient or ER/Q; Companies plan to increase hiring work tech budgets.

Cliquify's Amit Parmar on What Platforms do forEmployer Branding

January 13th, 2023

17:06

Why employer branding comes with faster cycle times, cost savings and engagement.

Ep 490: Responsible Recruiting Strategies

January 13th, 2023

22:55

The only things certain about talent acquisition in 2023 are uncertainly and more disruption. As companies deal with these complex times, what can TA leaders do to ensure their teams give their businesses maximum value?


Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown

January 11th, 2023

54:21

In this episode, Katee and Jackye talk with Dr. Kerry Mitchell Brown. She is a highly sought-after equity strategist and cultural architect. Dr. …

Sterling's Taylor Liggett Talks About His Industry and Technology

January 11th, 2023

18:11

We talk with Taylor Liggett, the Head of Identity Services at Sterling.

The Realities of Contingent Work With Atrium's Nancy Miller

January 6th, 2023

19:01

We discuss contingent workers with Nancy Miller, director of talent technology solution design at the staffing firm Atrium.

KeepWol's Lauren Fitzpatrick Shanks on Connection and Engagement

January 4th, 2023

24:53

We talk about how the platform works and the theory behind it, plus the impact it can have on performance and retention.

New Year, New Brand w/James Ellis

January 3rd, 2023

40:46


Author of the best book ever written on the subject of employer brand, Talent Chooses You and the creative genius behind EmployerBrandLabs and our favourite guest, James Ellis joins us for an update on the world of what …

Ep 489: The Personalization Megatrend

December 30th, 2022

23:52

Anyone who has listened to the show, read any of my writing, or seen me present this year will know that I firmly believe that technology-driven …

Ep 488: The DE&I Journey

December 28th, 2022

23:18

One of the key lessons from 2022 is that implementing effective strategies for DE&I is always a long-term journey rather than a quick fix. Sharing insights to learn from the experiences of others is a critical part …

Creatio's Andie Dovgan on Why Low Code's in Your Future

December 21st, 2022

17:57

We’re going to talk about no-code development and why you should care about it, how Creatio goes about its work and more.

Ep 487: Focus

December 21st, 2022

27:11

As an end-of-year special, this week is productivity week on the podcast. 


With so much going on and so many competing pressures, I know that everyone listening will, at least at some point in 2022, have had challenges …

Ep 486: Building A Second Brain

December 19th, 2022

26:11

As an end-of-year special, this week is productivity week on the podcast. 


With so much going on and so many competing pressures, I know that everyone listening will, at least at some point in 2022, have had challenges …

Ep 485: What Will Replace Resumes?

December 17th, 2022

20:58

The death of the resume has long been predicted. It is widely acknowledged that they are ineffective and prone to promoting bias, but alternative approaches have yet to achieve universal adoption. However, with many …

Shifting Landscapes in Talent Acquisition

December 16th, 2022

17:02

Candidate’s model adds a human touch to talent acquisition by including personal referrals with each profile.

Ep 484: Innovation and Skills-Based Hiring

December 16th, 2022

35:07

The pace of business change is continuing to accelerate. According to a recent McKinsey Global Survey, business leaders expect that by 2026, half of their companies' revenues will come from products, services, or …

Getting Inclusive AF with Amy Spurling

December 14th, 2022

52:38

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Amy Spurling. Amy is the Founder and CEO of Compt, HR software that enables companies to offer truly …

Employ inc. SVP of People and Talent Corey Berkey

December 13th, 2022

30:10

Corey’s leadership at employ Inc. (Owner of Jobvite, JazzHR, Lever etc..) makes us all envious; their executive and hiring manager’s commitment to …

Firing Squad: Cliquify's Amit Parmar

December 12th, 2022

38:30

Share, share, share! Everyone's sharing everything on social media. Employers and recruiters who are sharing, however, aren't really doing it right most of the time. That's why Cliquify was founded. Think of them as …

Ep 482: The Fluid Workforce

December 9th, 2022

24:35

The debate around the office versus remote versus hybrid looks set to run and run as employers continue to experiment with different strategies. Despite the enormous advantages of remote working, there are many …

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Nika White

December 8th, 2022

1:02:11

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Dr. Nika White. She is a national authority and fearless advocate for diversity, equity, and inclusion. …

Job Search Guide w/Jan Tegze

December 6th, 2022

31:33

The world famous author of Full Stack Recruiter Jan Tegze has a new book out!  


Job Search Guide: Be your own Career Coach 


A great gift idea for the …

ServiceNow's Melanie Lougee on Service Delivery and Covid

December 2nd, 2022

22:46

What ServiceNow does for HR, how businesses navigated the turn toward remote work and what they’ve learned from the experience.

Ep 480: Are Job Boards Evolving?

December 1st, 2022

24:44

Job Boards still play a central role in talent attraction, but outside of the job board industry, there isn't much discussion or debate about their …

Getting Inclusive AF with Sabina Mehmood

November 30th, 2022

55:47

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Sabina Mehmood. Sabina is the Pay Equity Leader for Gapsquare, helping companies make data-enabled decisions around pay, people, and DEI efforts. She leads the company’s …

LDS's Mimi Brooks on Design, Experience and How They're Changing

November 30th, 2022

21:15

The challenges of creating effective experiences with technology, and new approaches to experience design

Fuel Your Workforce w/ Jo Mills

November 30th, 2022

14:17

Everyone is talkin' internal talent mobility and workforce agility these days ... and for good reason. Empowering your current talent pool to fill …

Ep 479: Neurodiversity Hiring At Microsoft

November 29th, 2022

19:13

I published three interviews in October to mark National Disability Employment Awareness month. What particularly struck me was the amount of work …

Data Rich, Information Poor with Tim Sackett. Brought to You by Fuel50

November 23rd, 2022

18:23

Live at the HR Tech 2022 conference, our guest Tim Sackett, President of HRU Technical Resources and creator of the Tim Sackett Project, speaks with Mark Feffer about building an inventory of skills, enhancing learning …

Globalizing Your Employer Brand w/ Oana Iordachescu

November 23rd, 2022

18:54

Hiring globally is all the rage, thanks to a pandemic that supported the growth of an anywhere workforce. To compliment this growth, many organizations are looking to grow their footprint of products and services all …

Ep 478: Developing Talent Intelligence

November 23rd, 2022

28:38

Talent Intelligence is on the rise, with an increasing number of TA teams putting data at the core of their strategy. However, do employers genuinely …

Ep 477: Innovation In Hourly Hiring

November 21st, 2022

31:07

Hourly hiring remains challenging for many employers, and despite the worsening economic outlook, it will likely remain a huge challenge for several years to come.


So what innovations are we seeing in how employers …

Buy, Transition, and Grow w/ Gerard Mulder

November 21st, 2022

19:55

It’s been a year since Textkernel acquired Sovren, creating a Wonder Twin-style deal that brought the two most well-known resume parsing solutions …

Ep 476: Digital Talent At PepsiCo

November 18th, 2022

22:15

With high-profile layoffs in some large technology companies, it is perhaps easy to forget that digital transformation is still driving a massive …

Ep 475: Defining Talent

November 16th, 2022

22:13

Skills based hiring continues to be a growing trend as employers rethink how they attract and assess talent. So how do you define what good looks like and identify the right hires for your organisation?


My guest this …

Getting Inclusive AF with Brandolon Barnett

November 16th, 2022

58:13

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Brandolon Barnett. Brandolon is the author of Dreams Deferred: Recession, Struggle, And The Quest For A …

Talent Mobility and Skills with Sarah White of Aspect 43. Brought to You by Fuel50

November 16th, 2022

15:00

Live at the HR Tech 2022 conference, our guest Sarah White, CEO of Aspect 43, speaks with Mark Feffer about what skills *are* and looks at the bigger …

VR Recruiting with Heather Jackson

November 14th, 2022

35:38

Turn down the lights and turn up the Marvin Gaye, because we're talking about VR in recruiting on this episode. Turns out, there's a really cool …

Ep 474: Talent In Tech

November 11th, 2022

26:54

With the news cycle currently dominated by significant layoffs in large tech companies, it is essential to take a step back and consider the longer-term picture. Many employers are still struggling to find the right …

Ep 473: The Power Of Difference

November 9th, 2022

29:40

DE&I remains a major priority for employers, but progress is slow and sometimes completely stuck. So how should companies be thinking about …

A Commitment to Learning with Robin Schooling. Brought to You by Fuel50!

November 2nd, 2022

19:42

Live at the HR tech 2022 conference, our guest Robin Schooling (VP of Growth and Innovation at Cielo) speaks with Mark Feffer about rethinking …

Ep 471: Employer Brand Challenges

November 2nd, 2022

19:40

A volatile talent acquisition market and the immense disruption we are seeing to traditional ways of working our driving significant changes in …

HR Tech Interviews: Dave Deitering Mitratech

November 1st, 2022

14:40

Recorded at HRTech we welcomed Dave Deitering, GM HR & Immigration from Mitratech.


Mitratech is waiting with their hand stretched out towards us …

Need Indeed? Indeed, You Don't w/ Jim Durbin

October 31st, 2022

33:29

To say Indeed has made changes this year would be a gross understatement.

Here's a roundup:

1) changes to bid optimizer,

2) changes to their resume …

Ep 469: TA Technology Transformation

October 26th, 2022

18:43

With recruiting challenges so acute and talent acquisition technology developing at such a great pace, tech stack adoption and transformation …

UNLEASH the FOMO w/ Marc Coleman

October 26th, 2022

22:28

If you attended UNLEASH in Paris earlier this month, you know what a must-attend event it is.

If you didn’t attend, well, we’d better see you there …

Catching the VONQ w/ Arno Schäfer

October 24th, 2022

25:12

We joke about VONQ sounding like an STD our "roommate" caught in college, as well as saying their executive teams look like the bad guys from the …

Ep 468: Embracing Neurodiversity

October 21st, 2022

20:38

One of the most encouraging aspects of our changing world work has been the number of employers actively seeking to recruit neurodiverse talent. …

Ep 467: Automation & Personalization

October 20th, 2022

19:37

Anyone who has seen me speak this year knows that I consider personalization the next big trend in talent acquisition. If they get their strategies …

Live at HR Tech '22: Mary Faulkner Principal at IA. Brought to you by Fuel50

October 19th, 2022

16:35

Mary Faulkner talks to Mark Feffer about the drive to learn: Many organizations seem to lose sight of the learning experience, and then they wonder …

Round Peg, Square Cho w/ Richard Cho

October 19th, 2022

31:31

How often do you hear an interview with a recruiter who’s done time at Cisco, Facebook, Docusign, eBay, Robinhood and now Gem? Well, today’s your lucky day. Chad & Cheese has a chat with Richard Cho, Chief …

The Resume Killer? w/Maya Huber

October 18th, 2022

26:25

Maya Huber, CoFounder and CEO of TaTiO.io joins The Recruitment Flex.


With a Phd in Occupational Therapy and 15 years in HR, Maya knows exactly where the problem is. Resumes are a one dimensional piece of paper with your …

Firing Squad: Hireproof's Nick Barth

October 17th, 2022

30:53

An American and a Finn meetup on Reddit and a startup is born. Finland-based Hireproof promises to make anyone a world-class interviewer just by clicking a link. Really? Yeah, really. Cofounder Nick Barth joins Chad …

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Kimberly Young-McLear

October 12th, 2022

52:22

Wow! Wow! Wow! In this episode, Katee and Jackye get to speak with Dr. Kimberly Young-McLear. She is a Black, queer, scholar, activist, strategist, …

Stop Pinkwashing Already

October 10th, 2022

38:58

Over 8 million workers in the U.S. identify as LGBT. Spoiler alert: That's a lot! Yet, corporate America isn't very hospitable to this influential demo when it comes to work. In fact, a recent UCLA survey found 50 …

Ep 465: Curiosity At Work

October 7th, 2022

28:26

Albert Einstein once said, "I have no special talent; I am only passionately curious". I like this quote so much that I use the phrase "Passionately …

Getting Inclusive AF with Maya Huber

October 5th, 2022

50:29

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Maya Huber, the CEO & co-founder of TaTiO. She holds a PhD in occupational therapy, with main …

TikTok is Glassdoor Gone Wild

October 3rd, 2022

41:26

The winds of change isn’t just a killer Scorpions' tune from the ‘80s. It also defines recruitment marketing in 2022. Pay transparency is trending, TikTok is on the top of every employers’ lips and CEOs actually stand …

Benepass's Jaclyn Chen on Benefits, Retention and Covid

September 30th, 2022

19:26

Covid’s impact, how companies can use benefits to keep employees on board and how they evolve to meet the times.

Ep 464: Optimization, Automation and Augmentation

September 30th, 2022

29:09

As talent acquisition rapidly adapts to disruptive times, innovative ways of working and new technologies are being adopted at an unprecedented pace. …

Inclusive AF with Mo Berkner Boyt

September 28th, 2022

54:54

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Maureen “Mo” Berkner Boyt. Mo is the Founder and CEO of The Moxie Exchange. She’s spent over 30 years helping organizations grow by creating inclusive workplaces where …

Female Founding, Google Accelerating, and Whiskey!

September 28th, 2022

44:29

The boys recently held a private event at HR Tech for around 40 people with ThisWay founder and CEO Angela Hood. Luckily for you, the mics were on, …

What Drove The Great Resignation W/Laura Darrell

September 27th, 2022

28:34

This week we welcome Laura Darrell, author of The Great Resignation: How coaching and leadership can help you win war for talent.

Bringing the credibility of real life experience and impressive credentials, Laura’s new …

Ep 463: Fractional Hiring

September 23rd, 2022

22:56

With continuing skills shortages and massive disruption to how and where work is done, it is not surprising to see innovation as employers start to think differently about talent. Fractional hiring is rising and has …

Ep 462: What's New In Candidate Experience

September 22nd, 2022

30:51

This is a special cross-over episode with The Talent Savvy Podcast hosted by Bas van de Haterd and Marlies Farrill. It was a pleasure to join them for a conversation about the latest thinking in candidate experience, …

ADP DataCloud's Brent Weiss on Innovation in Analytics

September 21st, 2022

32:28

How data’s used today, the role of innovation in analytics and user-friendly data.

Daily Pay's Jeanniey Walden on New Products, Vision and Integration

September 21st, 2022

18:04

DailyPay's global chief innovation and marketing officer looks at the business and its future.

State of Tech Workforce

September 20th, 2022

30:05

Colin Yasukochi from CBRE Tech Insights Centre joins us to discuss the state of Tech hiring.


Let’s unpack all 140 pages of the 2022 Tech Talent …

Firing Squad: Confirm's Josh Merrill

September 17th, 2022

34:24

Ever feel like your performance reviews are stuck in the 1940s? Well, you're not alone, but it's probably time to join the party and jump into the 21st Century. That's why we invited Confirm.com on Firing Squad. This …

Ep 461: Talent Acquisition Realities

September 16th, 2022

22:44

I've never known a more disruptive, uncertain and confusing time in talent acquisition. With so much complexity in the market, it can be challenging for TA talent to get a clear picture of what is happening outside of …

Ep 460: Equity & Inclusion

September 14th, 2022

33:12

Many employers are focusing hard on diversifying their talent pools at the moment. It has been encouraging to bring so many stories to the podcast …

European Talent Intelligence 2022

September 12th, 2022

33:05

Europe is largely an aging, over-regulated, polarized economy with immigration challenges and a war on its doorstep. That's the bad news. Now to the …

What HR Should Know About Cybersecurity

September 9th, 2022

21:03

Security issues employers are concerned about, how HR should stay on top and, of course, data.

Harver's Scott Landers on Mergers, Quality and Recruiting

September 7th, 2022

17:16

We talk with Harver CEO Scott Landers, who recently made a notable move with the acquisition of pymetrics..

Firing Squad: Sense's Pankaj Jindal

September 5th, 2022

32:25

The battle to be the Swiss Army Knife for all things hiring is real. While many vendors may serve as your pocket scissors, can opener or toothpick, few can promise every feature while also delivering the goods. Sense (

Ep 457: Employability and Social Mobility

September 3rd, 2022

27:03

Some of my favourite discussions on this show have been with employers driving diversity, equity, and inclusion, not just because it is the right …

Kudos CEO Muni Boga on Culture, Rewards and Data

September 2nd, 2022

18:16

The importance of culture, the real need for cultural solutions, and how analytics contributes to it all.

Getting Inclusive AF with Tara Turk-Haynes

August 31st, 2022

52:17

In this episode, Katee and Jackye check in with T. Tara Turk-Haynes, the VP of DEI and Talent Management at Leaf Group where she oversees Leaf Group’s diversity, equity, and inclusion as well as hiring efforts. They …

Workplace Changes Don't Happen the Way You Think

August 31st, 2022

30:28

He’s seen the world of work from all its angles, and now he's going to help us put its changes in perspective.

Ep 456: Soft Skills

August 31st, 2022

22:51

Work and jobs are changing, and the way companies select and hire people needs to keep up with this pace of change. We've always talked a lot about soft skills in talent acquisition, but what are they in the context of …

Upgraded Robot-Proof Recruiter

August 31st, 2022

22:23

Katrina Collier, author of "The Robot-Proof Recruiter" is one of our favorite guests to have on. Aside from being a proud Gen X’er and sharing a …

Robot Proof Recruiter w/Katrina Collier

August 30th, 2022

35:15

The 2nd Edition of The Robot Proof Recruiter will be available in North America on August 30.


With relentless passion, Katrina has over 2 decades in the recruitment industry, spoken on 5 continents and now has version 2 …

Should You Repel Candidates?

August 29th, 2022

37:01

The U.S. Marines have made a career out of recruiting based on letting 18-year-olds know how tough and challenging becoming a Marine actually is. …

Ep 455: Talent Rediscovery

August 26th, 2022

27:09

Reaching out to past applicants about new roles has always been a challenge in talent acquisition. Poor technology, tight timescales and inflexible …

How to Leveraging Culture for Talent Acquisition

August 26th, 2022

17:39

How companies can nurture their culture, and why transparency is an employer’s friend.

Ep 454: Effective Employer Branding Strategies

August 25th, 2022

22:26

To say that the talent acquisition market in the tech sector is complex and fast-changing at the moment would perhaps be a bit of an understatement. …

Getting Inclusive AF with Kieran Snyder

August 24th, 2022

45:36

In this episode, we talk to Jackye's boss and co-founder of Textio, Kieran Snyder!


The Textio platform helps with inclusive and equitable communications. After earning her PhD in linguistics at Penn, Kieran spent a …

Using Data to Advance Diversity

August 24th, 2022

21:54

Fom helping determine where a company’s at to initiating new programs, data grows in importance to DEI efforts.

A Change in the World w/ Steve Pemberton

August 23rd, 2022

27:35

Steve Pemberton is Best Selling Author, Philanthropist, Acclaimed Speaker, and Senior Level Executive. He wasn't given a chance in the world; he proved them wrong. Steve's chance is now focused on change. In this …

Cheapening the Job W/Lou Adler

August 23rd, 2022

40:24

If there was only one interview question you could ask, what would it be? 

 As an industry legend and innovator, Lou has the best stories about …

How ADP Works Diversity Into Its Software

August 19th, 2022

21:22

ADP's chief of product inclusion on how software can be inclusive and how the industry works to achieve make it happen. .

Ep 453: Onboarding Evolved

August 19th, 2022

20:50

The pandemic changed many aspects of talent acquisition and perhaps none more so than onboarding. With many people spending less time in their …

Getting Inclusive AF with Michelle Ngome

August 17th, 2022

54:10

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Michelle Ngome about inclusive marketing. Michelle is the founder of Line 25 Consulting, an agency that …

Chatbot Evolution w/ Sumit Gupta

August 17th, 2022

31:26

Your life really isn't complete until you've gotten a complete breakdown of the past, present, and future of recruiting chatbots. That's why we asked PandoLogic CTO Sumit Gupta on the podcast to get a breakdown. Turns …

It's Not a Labor Shortage w/ Sean Behr

August 15th, 2022

30:46

There is no labor shortage. At least that's the position taken by Sean Behr, CEO at Fountain, a solution for industries with high turnover. Nope. …

WorkMarket's Bridget Quinn Kirchner Talks Contingent Work, Technology and the Future

August 12th, 2022

18:07

We talk about the dynamics of contingent work, the mindset of contingent workers and how their experience shapes up.

Turn Technologies CEO Rahier Rahman on Standing Out, AI and Onboarding

August 10th, 2022

15:49

What Turn does, how it tries to rise above industry buzz, and the role AI plays in its product plans.

Getting Inclusive AF with Wendy Goldberg

August 10th, 2022

53:26

This is a reflective episode where Jackye and Katee discuss diversity in faith with Wendy Goldberg. Wendy is a founding board member and the …

Story Time w/ Tim "Magic Man" Dineen

August 8th, 2022

27:29

Make yourself comfortable, boys and girls, because it's story time. On this episode, the boys bring Tim Dineen, co-founder, and chief innovation officer at Recruitics on the show. For those who don't know Tim, he was …

Marcus Buckingham's Amy Leschke-Kahle Talks Performance and Engagement

August 5th, 2022

16:41

Empowering organizations to improve engagement and performance

Getting Inclusive AF with Ericka Hines, Part 2!

August 4th, 2022

52:23

In this episode, we dig into the research that Ericka and her team have done! And it's good!! Can't wait for you to hear all about it!

If you like …

Modo Labs Navigates the Post-Covid Workplace with No-Code

August 3rd, 2022

27:50

Modo Labs CEO Andrew Yu on how employers can put no-code development to use.

Turing.com CEO talks Remote First

August 2nd, 2022

32:17

Don't believe the headlines. Hiring competent developers is still really, really challenging. One start-up that's helping solve the quandary for …

Hidden Talent Pool w/Ilya Brotzky CEO of VanHack

August 2nd, 2022

26:14

Global mobility is on everyone’s radar, but who is doing it well? VanHack 


  • Ilya, CEO and co-founder was another happy accident of landing into the …

Technology Challenges Facing Global Business

July 29th, 2022

19:15

Safeguard Global CTO Duri Chitayat explains how he helps companies do business on distant shores.

Reunion Squad: Honeit's Nick Livingston

July 29th, 2022

31:02

Most reunions suck.

You have to pretend to look younger, more successful, and skinnier than you really are. And then there are those stupid name tags …

Getting Inclusive AF with Ericka Hines, Part 1

July 27th, 2022

58:56

In this episode, Katee and Jackye meet with Ericka Hines, who is the Principal of Every Level Leadership. Ericka is an advisor and strategist who works with organizations to align their commitment to inclusion and …

ReacHIRE's Addie Swartz on Leveling the Playing Field for Women

July 27th, 2022

20:20

Women returning to work, the challenges they face and how they can continue to develop their careers.

How Artificial Intelligence Speeds Healthcare Hiring

July 22nd, 2022

19:22

Grant Messick, vice president of customer success at Akasa, looks at how staffing challenges get in the way of healthcare.

Livestorm Seeks to Beat Zoom at its Own Game

July 20th, 2022

17:29

Video technology and where it’s going, redefining use cases to strengthen what users can get done, and more.

Getting Inclusive AF with Ryanne Fox

July 20th, 2022

51:14

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak to Ryanne Fox, a former colleague of Katee's. She shares her personal journey of transitioning at work. It is …

Smoke Bomb w/ Dr. John Sullivan

July 20th, 2022

35:17

Prepare for a glass of cold water in your face! Dr Sullivan challenges our point of view on just about everything.


In this episode


  • A first for us, Dr …

Reunion Squad: Honeit's Nick Livingston

July 20th, 2022

31:02

Most reunions suck.

You have to pretend to look younger, more successful, and skinnier than you really are. And then there are those stupid name tags …

Cornerstone's Himanshu Palsule on Transitions

July 13th, 2022

20:02

We talk about Cornerstone OnDemand’s acquisitions of EdCast and SumTotal, it’s leveraging of content, and more

Assessment Witchcraft w/ Caitlin MacGregor

July 13th, 2022

28:19

For as long as employee assessments have been around, they're still largely a mystery to most employers. Sort of like witchcraft or a pagan ritual from the Middle Ages, most companies enter the assessment game with a …

Secret Weapon: Storytelling w/ Patrick Hodgdon

July 11th, 2022

34:42

Humans have been telling stories for as long as we've been around. So, it's no surprise employers who tell the best stories are typically the ones who get the best workers. It matters. That's why we invited Patrick …

Accurate Background's CHRO Looks at Hybrid Work, HR's Evolution

July 8th, 2022

19:24

Looking at the changing workforce, how employers addressed Covid and how HR has evolved.

Cadient CEO Jim Buchanan Talks About Diversity and High-Volume Hiring

July 6th, 2022

34:54

Jim Buchanan talks about diversity, today’s labor market, and more, on this edition of PeopleTech,

Ep 448: Proving The Business Value Of Talent Marketing

June 29th, 2022

34:09

Measuring the impact of talent marking in a way that aligns with the rest of the business and demonstrates value for the c-suite has always been challenging. TA leaders often find themselves judged by measures and …

How DEI Works on the Ground

June 29th, 2022

19:53

. What’s it like to be a diversity officer? That’s what we talk about, on this edition of PeopleTech.

Robert Kerbeck, "Ruse: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street"

June 29th, 2022

33:11

If you heard a B-list actor, but an A-list corporate spy was on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, would you listen? Well, today's your lucky day. The …

Firing Squad: Visage's Joss Leufrancois

June 28th, 2022

36:17

Is the future of recruiting entirely automated? Is it more of the same? Some think it's a hybrid. That's why we invited Joss Leufrancois, CEO of …

Engagement, Performance and Development in a Skill-Based World

June 24th, 2022

15:22

Data, performance and technology and what they mean for employees.

Learn In's David Blake on Skills, Learning and What They Mean Together

June 22nd, 2022

19:56

Partnering with employers to identify and prepare employees for better-fitting roles.

Fill, Equip, & Win w/ Chloe and Allison

June 21st, 2022

39:00

Okay people, aren't we asking way too much of recruiters? Source, outreach, schedule, interview, provide a white glove experience and don't forget …

Performance Management and Today's Tech with Betterworks' Arnaud Grunwald

June 17th, 2022

21:51

Bringing performance management into technology’s modern world, and the role tech plays in today’s solutions.

Simply's James Peter-Jones on Improving the Recruiting Process

June 15th, 2022

21:14

Simply pays a lot of attention to things like the Great Resignation and the attitude of the workforce.

Firing Squad: Amplio's Trung Tran

June 13th, 2022

35:04

Life is getting pretty stressful for workers. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt have us all on edge. That's why the health and well-being of your …

When Data Plays With Talent Acquisition

June 10th, 2022

14:15

Findem's Danny Wen talks about strategy, data and talent acquisition

Polly's CEO Bilal Aijazi Looks at Powerful Products that Stay Under the Radar

June 9th, 2022

17:55

Polly’s CEO Bilal Aijazi is our guest. He talks about why competing firms can be a market opportunity, engagement and how fluid software changes …

Ep 443: The Nowhere Office

June 9th, 2022

31:27

All around the world, debates about hybrid and remote working rumble on as employers and employees experiment to find mutually agreeable and effective ways of working. There is a lot of noise in the debate around the …

Getting Inclusive AF with Wendy Dailey and Jon Thurmond

June 8th, 2022

49:25

In this episode, Jackye and Katee are joined by the dynamic duo from the HR Social Hour- Wendy Dailey and Jon Thurmond. We get personal about fat-shaming, why we love HR (even when we don't somedays), and why everyone …

Ep 442: Lessons From Elite Cycling

June 8th, 2022

22:47

I'm a firm believer in looking outside the talent acquisition universe to see what lessons we can learn from other disciplines and areas. Elite sport is always an interesting parallel as selecting and developing talent …

Super Pumped Hiring

June 6th, 2022

32:41

Imagine being behind the scenes during brand crisis hiring situations at Uber and WeWork. Literally the basis for "We Crashed" or "Super Pumped" …

Employee Benefits Across Generations, with Juno's Ally Fekaiki

June 5th, 2022

17:49

Juno CEO Ally Fekaiki talks about keeping the company on track during the pandemic, and what the future looks like as move on

Ep 441: Human-Centered Talent Acquisition

June 3rd, 2022

29:17

Everything is changing very quickly in talent acquisition, and many employers are struggling to keep up with the ever evolving best practices that …

Where People Data's Been, and Where It's Going

June 1st, 2022

24:20

We talk about analytics and bias, AI (of course) their new book, called Decoding Talent.

Getting Inclusive AF with Savina Perez

June 1st, 2022

51:32

In this episode, we start the conversation with a little bit of current events and the ongoing trauma. We share resources for this episode on our Instagram page.


Then we get to dig in with Savina Perez, who is the Chief …

Events Are Unleashed

June 1st, 2022

19:34

Oh, how we’ve missed in-person events. Being at Unleash in Vegas last week, rubbing elbows and sharing smiles after nearly 3 years was such a joy. That’s why we had to get the guy who made it all happen on the show. …

Are Bootcamps THE Answer?

May 30th, 2022

32:48

Coding bootcamps are gaining in popularity. The combination of rising in remote learning, a serious talent crunch for coders, and a lack of …

What Burnout, Turnover and Time Off Have in Common

May 27th, 2022

18:18

We look at what employers are most concerned about, the consequences of employee burnout and the dynamics of PTO.

Glean CEO Arvind Jain on Unearthing Hidden Knowledge

May 25th, 2022

26:46

Hidden data may be critical to a business by giving people access to information they need to be more effective.

Ep 437: Improving Speed & Quality

May 23rd, 2022

22:10

The one theme that has come over very clearly in the conversations I've had with talent acquisition professionals in the last 12 months is the relationship between speed and quality in the hiring process.


Speed is …

Firing Squad: Lluna's Jess Podgajny

May 23rd, 2022

37:32

Empowering your team with flexibility and choice just got a whole lot easier. That's the promise of startup Philly-based Lluna, who offers …

Ep 436: Diversifying Talent Pools

May 20th, 2022

26:44

Diversity in hiring is a critical issue for all employers, but many are still struggling with it. So who is doing it well, and how much of a role can …

Ep 435: Personalization (Part Two)

May 19th, 2022

29:01

This is part two of my mini-series on personalization. So to recap, I feel very strongly that personalization is the new Megatrend in Talent Acquisition. Offering personalized recruitment marketing, candidate journies, …

CollegeRecruiter.com on Widening the Pipeline & Growing the Business

May 19th, 2022

18:47

We talk about how recruiting’s changed in recent years, and look at some dynamics of the workforce. .

Greenhouse's Jon Stross Looks at the New Talent Market

May 18th, 2022

18:07

How the talent market’s changed over the last few years, how companies approach diversity, and the joys of product integration.

Getting Inclusive AF with Elena Joy Thurston- Part 2!

May 18th, 2022

55:07

Jackye and Katee welcome Elena Joy Thurston back to the show to discuss some new tools she is developing for companies as they navigate non-binary …

It's a Job Seeker Nation!

May 16th, 2022

35:03

There are a lot of surveys out there. But very few of them have a track record going back 13 years. That's why we invited Employ, the new parent company of Jobvite, JazzHR, and NXTThing RPO and their CMO Allie Kelly to …

Podcast: ADP’s UX Leader on Data-Driven Design

May 13th, 2022

22:57

We talk about making use of tens of millions of records, and whether analytics in HR deserves all the attention it gets.

Ep 434: Personalization (Part One)

May 13th, 2022

32:13

Those of you who have read my book Digital Talent (available wherever you get your books!) will know that I feel very strongly that personalization is the new megatrend in talent acquisition.


Offering personalized …

Ep 433: Global Employer Branding

May 12th, 2022

18:51

Employer branding has always been important, but it is now absolutely critical to employers if they want to connect, engage and influence in demand …

uFlexReward's Sean Luitjens Talks About Benefits in a Changing Economy

May 11th, 2022

17:12

We talk about the Great Resignation and its impact, how employers are reacting, and more.

Getting Inclusive AF with Zach Nunn

May 11th, 2022

48:50

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Zach Nunn about his podcast, the work he is passionate about and how to be better. Zach is a respected DEI expert, with a deep understanding of the challenges employees …

Finding the Goldilocks Zone with Leah Daniels

May 10th, 2022

30:57

How to Increase the Quality of Your Applicants


Leah Daniels, Chief Commercial Officer at JobSync shares how complicated problems, like getting your …

ChartHop's Ian White on Data, End Users and Business Growth

May 6th, 2022

19:58

We talk about the movement of analytics into HR, the notion of providing access to end users, and some recent moves the company’s made,

Talview's Sanjoe Jose on How Data Fits With Hiring

May 4th, 2022

16:51

We discuss the challenges of incorporating data into hiring , how that impacts recruiters and what’s doing with Talview’s roadmap.

Ep 432: Long Term Trends

April 30th, 2022

30:52

After over two years of unprecedented disruption, it has become evident that things have changed forever. However, many employers are still attempting to stick with the talent acquisition and employee experience …

Retrain.ai's Shay David on the Future of Skills

April 29th, 2022

18:55

We talk with Shay David about the labor market, automation and the changes in store for business,

Ep 431: Talent Density

April 28th, 2022

27:32

The challenges of 2022 are causing many organisations to think very differently about talent. The employers who are getting it right are looking …

TaskHuman's Ravi Swaminathan on the Joys of Coaching Through Video

April 27th, 2022

16:47

We talk about the past and future of on-demand, virtual coaching.

Firing Squad: Bryq's Markellos Diorinos

April 27th, 2022

35:19

What's your favorite brick-related song? (She's a) "Brick House? "Another Brick in the Wall"? Maybe Ben Folds' simply titled "Brick"? Anyway, startup …

Beyond the Clickbait Labour Insights with Cary Sparrow

April 26th, 2022

30:18

So what are Recruiters getting paid?


  • Greenwich.HR collects real-time data on jobs from 59 countries around the world. Their advanced analytics will …

Recipe for Acquisition

April 25th, 2022

28:49

Coming down from the high of the recent iCIMS acquisition of CandidateID, former CEO Adam Gordon of CandidateID and Mike Wilczak, chief product & development officer at iCIMS, join Chad & Cheese for the …

Ep 430: Developing People Analytics

April 22nd, 2022

19:24

With a growing number of use cases, people analytics continues to develop both in sophistication and the amount of value it drives for employers. …

Skuid's Ryan Niemann on Low Code, HR and What's Ahead

April 22nd, 2022

17:29

Skuid CEO Ryan Niemann talks about the impact of low-code development on HR and technology.

Ep 429: Open Hiring

April 21st, 2022

27:24

Some of my favourite conversations in the last six months have been around inclusive hiring. Many people are doing brilliant work to support people from marginalised groups into the workforce, and I've learnt a lot from …

isolved's Geoff Webb on People, Data and the State of the Market

April 20th, 2022

22:37

We discuss the craziness of today’s labor market, as well the adaptive employee experience and the company’s approach to people analytics,

HR Manifesto

April 18th, 2022

28:20

What happens when you get HR's most dangerous podcast together with the industry's most popular TikTok celebrity?

Yup, insanity!

The boys bring on …

Fama CEO Ben Mones on the Technology of Background Checks

April 15th, 2022

21:50

Background screen keeps getting more complex. And so does the technology behind it.

Ep 428: Strategies For The Great Resignation

April 15th, 2022

24:03

Whether it's the Great Resignation or the Great Reset, whatever you choose to call it, it is undeniable that employers are currently finding it extremely challenging to attract and retain talent.

So which strategies …

Ep 427: The Job Board Market

April 13th, 2022

38:35

I've been a keen follower of the Job Board market for several decades. It's been a market that has often been very slow to evolve, but the pace of …

Getting Inclusive AF with Julien LeFort

April 13th, 2022

39:25

In this episode, Jackye and Katee get to talk to Julien LeFort. Julien has a passion for developing people and for empowering them to learn, grow and …

Workhuman's Rosette Cataldo on Performance Management's New Dynamics

April 13th, 2022

25:31

What performance management's changes mean for managers, employees. and performance.

If Jarvis was HRTech with Angela Hood

April 12th, 2022

32:29

If Ironman’s Jarvis has a baby, is what the newest announcement from This Way Global has coming down.


  • Their partnership with IBM’s Watson is about to …

Can the DEI Easy Button Exist?

April 11th, 2022

29:42

Diversity, equity and inclusion are still on the tip of many employers' tongues. However, things like a global pandemic and a world on the edge of …

Ep 426: AI Driven Talent Intelligence

April 9th, 2022

23:51

Expanding candidate pools, speeding up the recruiting process and diversity hiring are all key talent acquisition challenges in 2022. While …

Gen Z, Covid and the New Rules of Work

April 8th, 2022

21:08

The changes in today’s workplace and the challenges of getting workers what they want.

Ep 425: Building A High Performing Talent Acquisition Team

April 8th, 2022

24:33

I know that many TA Leaders who listen to the podcast are currently scaling or rebuilding their talent acquisition teams. Market challenges and rapid …

Round Up March 2022

April 7th, 2022

11:44

Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.


Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:


High-Volume Hiring in the Age of Covid

April 6th, 2022

17:50

Since the pandemic began, Grayscale CEO Ty Abernethy's seen some interesting shifts in the way candidates and employers approach hiring, and getting hired.

Kill The Resume?

April 5th, 2022

30:52

Resumes are dead. Sourcing is pointless. Applicant tracking systems have failed us. At least that's the opinion of Maya Huber, co-founder, and CEO of Skillset, an Israeli-based job skills test platform. Is she right? …

Ep 424: The Future Of Work

April 1st, 2022

29:19

It's now an obvious thing to say that the pandemic has created an inflection point in the future of work. However, understanding which of the current trends we are seeing will become the long term trends that shape this …

Ep 423: Perfecting The Candidate Experience

March 31st, 2022

22:21

Delivering a high-quality candidate experience isn't easy, but it has arguably never been more critical with the recruiting challenges employers are now experiencing. Over all the years that candidate experience has …

How Technology Makes SMB HR Work Amid Covid's Challenges

March 31st, 2022

24:04

We talk with Josh Cohen, digital marketing director for the SMB services platform Upnetic.

Virti CEO Alex Young on Using Technology to Improve Learning

March 30th, 2022

19:52

We talk about how learning is evolving, what works and what might not, and Virti’s approach to it all.

Getting Inclusive AF with Maia Ervin

March 30th, 2022

50:26

In this episode, Jackye and Katee have a conversation with Maia Ervin, Chief People Officer for JUV Consulting. Maia leads social impact, human …

Gamify the Quit

March 30th, 2022

32:26

Quit rates have reached record levels and employees are making their voices heard. But how can a company change the narrative and retain employees through empowering their people?  

The lived experience of an employee …

Ep 422: Digital Talent

March 29th, 2022

42:43

So today is the international publication date for Digital Talent, the book I've spent the last couple of years writing with Mervyn Dinnen. We're incredibly excited that everyone can finally get to read it and wanted to …

Rob Boersma from Talent.com

March 29th, 2022

30:51

With a bank account bursting at the seams, how do you wisely spend $120 million? Talent.com is a job aggregator, much like Indeed. Can they really …

Firing Squad: Qualifi's Darrian Mikell

March 28th, 2022

32:21

Automation in the interview space is smokin' hot, and Indianapolis-based Qualifi is hoping the profit off the trend by providing automated phone …

Ep 421: The Purpose Gap

March 26th, 2022

22:23

As we all know, recruiting and retention are tough at the moment, and employers need to work harder than ever to acquire and keep the talent they need. Purpose is often talked about as a critical differentiator in …

Cappfinity's Nicki Garcea on Technology, Covid and the Workforce

March 25th, 2022

16:38

Technology and Covid-19, how the pandemic’s changed candidate and employee behavior, and the challenges employers face in today’s labor market.

Ep 420: The Project Economy

March 23rd, 2022

21:51

The world of work has changed in many ways, and one fascinating area is the adoption of a more agile approach to talent. Project-based contracting is on the rise employers work to ensure they have the right skills at …

How niikiis Pursues HR Technology for Smaller Businesses

March 23rd, 2022

16:26

We discuss the dynamics of their market, the competitive landscape and their vision of the future,

The World of Work has Changed with Ira Wolfe

March 22nd, 2022

42:04

In 2017 Ira released a book called Recruiting in the age of Googlisation and was pretty bang on what was going to happen to the world of work and …

iCIMS' Mark Brandau on Internal Opportunities in the New World of Work

March 18th, 2022

15:49

Reducing "mobility friction" at a time went simplifying internal movement is a key to retention.

Yello's Dan Bartfield on Early-Stage Recruiting, DEI and Technology’s Role

March 16th, 2022

9:43

We talk with Dan Bartfield about about early-stage recruiting, DEI and technology’s role in it all, What's Covid done, and how are recruiters lining …

Digital Talent with Matt Alder

March 15th, 2022

27:36

The charming podcaster from Edinborough has just published his 2nd book, Digital Talent and we got an exclusive scoop. Or at least it felt like an exclusive!

Digital Talent is available on this side of the pond March 29, …

Ghosting Busters w/ Jeff Shapiro

March 14th, 2022

35:07

Tired of hearing about "ghosting" yet? Too bad! It's a serious issue, and employers who engage in the practice are really screwing things up in a wide variety of ways for the company. That's why we brought Jeff Shapiro, …

Jobvite CEO Peter Clare on the Company's Next Chapter

March 11th, 2022

17:01

We talk about consolidating three businesses into one, the impact on product development and customers, and what it all means.

Diversely CEO Helen McGuire on Diversity and Technology

March 9th, 2022

17:02

Improving diversity seems like a very human exercise. But our guest today brings data and technology to the task.

PHD in Recruiting with Katrina Kibben

March 8th, 2022

29:52

We weren't able to record an interview last week so we're replaying one of our favourites!

Shelley fly's solo this weeks and welcomes a recruitment …

Firing Squad: Intervue.io's Rahul Arora

March 7th, 2022

32:44

Software promising to screen and test the world's best tech talent tend to fall into two camps: Those who can actually do it and those who are …

Data, Talent Acquisition and the Good Hire

March 4th, 2022

18:41

We talk about data and talent acquisition with Crosschq CEO Michael Fitzsimmons,

vArmour's Tim Eades Looks Beneath the Surface of Ransomware

March 2nd, 2022

13:46

vArmour CEO Tim Eades looks at the 2021 ransomware attack on Kronos, and the lessons we can draw from it.

Ep. 24: Jess Von Bank: See Me, Protect Me, Respect Me!

March 2nd, 2022

34:45
Employer: See Me, Protect Me, Respect Me!

Reading Jess Von Bank's post, “Stop filling reqs and start providing safety. Address the toll of fear and …

Ep 415: LinkedIn & Career Breaks

March 1st, 2022

21:52

Destigmatizing career breaks is something that I feel very strongly about and something that talent acquisition needs to take very seriously. With so much lip service paid to diversity and inclusion and the current …

Employee Stories with Eric Ayers

March 1st, 2022

28:07

This week we welcome the CEO of GoodSeekers Eric Ayers

Even in a WFH setup, most everyone can think of a great story about something at work. The …

The Inflation Boogeyman

February 28th, 2022

29:36

Inflation is on everyone's mind right now. How will it impact wages? Are bloated margins to blame? How about immigration? How will it impact the cost of doing business? What's going to happen with energy prices? …

How the Pandemic Changed High-Volume Hiring

February 25th, 2022

23:38

On this edition we talk with Cadient CEO Jim Buchanan about how high-volume hiring has changed over the last two years, and the challenges employers …

Getting Inclusive AF with George LaRoque

February 25th, 2022

49:35

In this episode, we talk to a friend of the podcast, George LaRocque about all things technology. George is the Founder of WorkTech. The source of …

Ep 413: Into The Metaverse

February 23rd, 2022

33:42

For over a decade now, I've been flagging up the development of virtual reality as something talent acquisition should have on their radar. It's …

Globalization Partners on Managing International Workers

February 23rd, 2022

15:41

Today, we talk with Sherrie Fernandes, vIce president of product management and user experience at Globalization Partners. Their platform makes it easier for businesses to hire and manage international talent.

The C-Suite is Listening

February 23rd, 2022

31:34

Strike while the iron is hot! 

Lisa Zone, managing director at Dix & Eaton joins us to talk about how recruiting, hiring, engagement, and talent management is at the center of every board room conversation. But who …

Chats with Smart People Featuring Maury Hanigan with SparcStart

February 23rd, 2022

39:23

The dreaded application form process.

Do you remember a time in which you applied for a job? Do you remember how much time it took to fill out a paper application or electronic one? I do, it mentally time consuming it is …

Unicorn Status w/ Anoop Gupta

February 21st, 2022

33:31

There seems to be a new $1B unicorn born every day in the employment industry, but only one has the distinction of being a Chad & Cheese 'Death Match' winner. Enter SeekOut and its CEO and cofounder Anoop Gupta, who …

Chats with Smart People Featuring Jeanne Achille

February 17th, 2022

42:35

Chats with Smart People Featuring Jeanne Achille.

Tremendous amounts of talent are being lost to our society just because that talent wears a skirt. …

Ep 412: Scaling Recruiting

February 17th, 2022

24:40

This year, scale and speed are an essential focus for many talent acquisition teams. But how do you scale recruiting and speed up hiring in an environment where recruiting recruiters is as tough as it is right now?


My …

The CATK Interview: Andre Blackman

February 17th, 2022

44:05

André is the Founder and CEO of Onboard Health, a specialized executive search and advisory firm focused on creating a more inclusive future of health. A pioneering strategist with deep ties across the healthcare …

Enboarder's Laura Lee Gentry on Understanding the Employee Journey

February 16th, 2022

13:22

We explore the importance of connection, communication and how businesses succeed in the age of Covid, with Laura Lee Gentry, Enboarder's chief people officer.

Getting Inclusive AF with Laura Close

February 16th, 2022

53:21

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Laura Close. And she brought the heat! As a twenty-year veteran of the DEI space, Laura Close started at a time before the term DEI was coined and has spent a career both …

Crimes Against Talent Pipelines

February 16th, 2022

38:15

You have questions....

What is RM automation?

What does candidate nurture really mean?

What is a true talent pipeline?

Are you and your company committing crimes against talent pipelines?

All great questions for any …

Ep. 23: Molly Johnson-Jones - Choosing How To Work

February 16th, 2022

34:54

Molly Johnson-Jones shared a post on LinkedIn that stated '“By removing the need to have a ‘reason’ to request flexibility and giving everyone the …

Full Stack Recruiter with Jan Tegze

February 15th, 2022

23:31

If you're a new recruiter or an experienced recruiter there's really one great book to read and use as a daily reference and that is the Full Stack …

Firing Squad: TechScreen's Mark Knowlton

February 14th, 2022

27:21

Screening tech talent is smokin' hot right now. You know the names: HackerRank, Byteboard, Woven, Triplebyte and others. But do you know Tech Screen? If the answer is NO, then you owe it to yourself to checkout this …

How mpathic AI melds Empathy and Technology

February 11th, 2022

20:04

mpathic AI's technology analyzes text and voice communication to strengthen a company’s culture and improve performance.

Ep 411: EVP In A Hyper Competitive Market

February 11th, 2022

23:01

Over the last few months, as I've been researching the practical effects of the Great Resignation, we've heard the stories of talent acquisition …

Think Like a Marketer with Thad Price

February 8th, 2022

30:52

How can we get Recruiters to think more like sales & marketing without making them feel like the poor 3rd cousin? Especially when we start naming …

Deep Fake Recruiting

February 7th, 2022

38:52

Remember seeing and hearing your first Deep Fake? Synthesized voices that sound like your favorite movie star. Not a great impressionist, on the contrary, algorithmically cloned voices where even the subtlest of nuances …

Clovers AI CEO Doug Leonard on Recruiting in Pressured Times

February 4th, 2022

21:53

We talk about how recruiters can operate successfully in today’s market, the impact technology’s had on recruiting’s evolution and movement toward …

ADP Chief Anthropologist Martha Bird Looks at Hybrid Work

February 2nd, 2022

25:23

Hybrid work and its impact on how work gets done, on people and on managing a workforce under strange circumstances.

Ep. 22: Mark Gilroy - Averting Loss Aversion In Hiring

February 2nd, 2022

34:01

After seeing Mark Gilroy’s fabulous YouTube video about change, (not the one where he’s singing that song ;) ), I wanted to know more and how …

Employer Brand Evolution

February 2nd, 2022

40:01

The world has changed and so has the employment branding game. That's why Chad & Cheese have relaunched the Cult Brand series with the help of

Dancing Elephants with James Ellis

February 1st, 2022

36:20

We are counting ourselves as part of some exclusive club to have James Ellis, author of Talent Chooses You, joining us for the show. 


Prepare to be …

When They Become Us

January 31st, 2022

35:29

To say we were giddy about interviewing someone connected to the movie "Wolf of Wall Street" would be the understatement of the year. Yet, here we …

Ep 408: Hiring Revolution

January 28th, 2022

34:26

DE&I continues, thankfully, to be an extremely high profile issue for employers. However, the needle is still not moving quickly enough, and some …

PayActiv and the Impact of Earned Wage Access

January 28th, 2022

19:57

We discuss about PayActiv’s products, how it sees the market and where it hopes to go.

Getting Inclusive AF with Nancy Murphy

January 27th, 2022

42:36

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak to Nancy Murphy. Nancy’s spent her career saying what others are afraid to – and learning to say it in ways that others will listen. She’s the founder and president of CSR …

Modern Hire's Eric Sydell on Data, Science and Recruiting

January 26th, 2022

30:20

We talk with Eric Sydell, EVP of innovation at Modern Hire, a science-based platform with tools that touch multiple steps in the hiring process.

WorkTech with George LaRocque

January 25th, 2022

26:43


Coming from some good Canadian heritage, we loved talking to an industry legend and the Founder of WorkTech, George Larocque. He brings an optimistic …

Firing Squad: BeRemote's Vivek Nigam

January 24th, 2022

31:17

Work from home is a thing. Maybe you've heard. This means vendors hoping to support employers with a remote workforce have a lot of tailwinds going in the right direction. However, like most things, there are going to …

Ep 406: A CEO's Perspective On Remote Work

January 21st, 2022

30:16

Whatever form it eventually takes, remote working is here to stay. In the previous episode of the show, we explored the challenges and opportunities of building a global remote team; in this episode, I wanted to get the …

Pymetrics' Frida Polli on Data, AI and Predictive Behavior

January 21st, 2022

17:53

We talk about the pymetrics platform and the science behind it with founder and CEO Frida Polli.

Ep 405: Global Remote Teams

January 19th, 2022

24:31

One of the early discussion points in the pandemic was the access to global talent pools that the move to remote working could open up. Two years on, …

Getting Inclusive AF with Vivian Acquah

January 19th, 2022

52:52

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Vivian Acquah, an inclusive Workplace Wellness Advocate. Vivian advises managers on how to keep their team members engaged, energized, and safe in a sustainable manner.

Vivian …

Hiring in 2022 with Jason Putnam

January 18th, 2022

32:23

What does someone do for an encore after winning the Global Executive of the Year award? 

  1. Politely decline several offers
  2. Soul search 
  3. Meet …

Modern Recruiter Tech Stack w/ Madeline Laurano

January 17th, 2022

23:28

At first glance, I didn't think this report would be very eye-opening.

I. WAS. WRONG.

The report stirs discussion around hard questions many HR and TA …

Modern Recruiter Tech Stack w/ Madeline Laurano

January 17th, 2022

23:28

At first glance, I didn't think this report would be very eye-opening.

I. WAS. WRONG.

The report stirs discussion around hard questions many HR and TA …

Orion Talent CEO Sarah Peiker on Veterans Returning to Work

January 14th, 2022

16:04

Recruiting veterans to adapt their skills and take on jobs across a variety of industries.

Ep 404: The Great Opportunity

January 14th, 2022

24:49

It's only January, and it's already clear that the Great resignation will continue to be a huge talking point in 2022 as companies fight for the talent and skills they need. However, some employers are already reframing …

CodeSignal CEO Tigran Sloyan on Raising Money for Growth

January 12th, 2022

11:31

We talk with CodeSignal CEO Tigran Sloyan about raising venture money, then putting it to work.

Job Board Geeks

January 11th, 2022

39:33

The Job Board Geeks Steven Rothberg and Jeff Dickey-Chasins join Serge and Shelley to give us their lowdown on what will be happening in Recruitment …

GREEN ROOM w/ Tim Sackett

January 10th, 2022

15:16

What's better than three middle-aged white guys yelling at kids to get off the lawn? How about three middle-aged white guys talking about …

Front-Line Technology in the Age of Covid

January 7th, 2022

14:41

We discuss the challenges of serving deskless workers, as well as the impact of Covid on front-line technology solutions.

Software, Analytics and Compliance

January 5th, 2022

24:23

How software helps businesses reduce their risks, maximize opportunities and keep up with constantly changing regulatory requirements.

Firing Squad: Grayscale's Ty Abernethy

January 5th, 2022

34:06

You're probably texting right now, aren't you? And if you're not texting now, you will be soon.

That's why text recruiting remains such a hot …

Ep. 20: Suzanne Lucas - The Great January Exodus

January 5th, 2022

37:08

When Suzanne Lucas‘s post, If You Think The Great Resignation Is Bad, Just Wait Until January, popped up in my feed, I knew I had to invite her onto the podcast.

You may know Suzanne as The Evil HR Lady but she’s not at …

What Women Want w/ Romy Newman

January 3rd, 2022

20:49

What are the best companies to work for if you're a woman in 2021? Female-focused employee review site Fairygodboss is a good place to start. Co-founder and president Romy Newman join the boys and dives into the survey, …

The CATK Interview: Gina Alito

December 30th, 2021

33:40

Join us in wrapping up 2021 with CATK and Symphony Talent's Gina Alito. 

The CATK Interview: Meg O'Connell

December 30th, 2021

39:36

Join Torin and Julie in welcoming Disability and Inclusion guru, Meg O'Connell

The CATK Interview: Joann Lockwood and Jennings Wynn

December 30th, 2021

48:54

Join Torin and Julie in welcoming LGBTQ+ leaders, Joann and Jennings as our end of year interview series wraps us up with some of the brightest and …

The CATK Interview: Plantation Theory Author, John Graham, Part Two

December 30th, 2021

28:49

Join Torin and Julie in welcoming HBCU grad, author, and employer brand guru, John Graham to the show in part one of a two part interview you will …

The CATK Interview: Plantation Theory Author, John Graham, Part One

December 30th, 2021

31:20

Join Torin and Julie in welcoming HBCU grad, author, and employer brand guru, John Graham to the show in part one of a two part interview you will …

The CATK Interview: Joann Lublin

December 30th, 2021

42:34

Joann S. Lublin was management news editor for The Wall Street Journal, working with reporters in the U.S. and abroad, until she retired in April …

The CATK Interview: Baltimore Artist Kim Rice

December 30th, 2021

42:41

Join Torin and Julie in welcoming creator of Being White, Redlining, and The Inheritance on a must listen interview.

Kim Rice creates large-scale …

The Death of Engracia Figueroa, United Airlines, and All Wheels Up

December 30th, 2021

53:09

This week, Torin and Julie discuss United Airlines ableism and the death of Engracia Figueroa and joined by special guests CEO, Michele Irwin, and …

The CATK Interview: Gina Alito

December 30th, 2021

33:40

Join us in wrapping up 2021 with CATK and Symphony Talent's Gina Alito. 

Dec. 27: Paradox Raises $200M, Korn Ferry Launches Intelligence Platform

December 27th, 2021

14:48

This week: Paradox raises $200 million in Series C funding, Korn Ferry launches intelligence platform and more.

Ep 400: Future Forces

December 16th, 2021

33:35

When I launched this podcast almost six years ago, I had an expectation that I was in it for the long haul, but I couldn't have imagined that 400 …

Getting Inclusive AF with Joshua Gilbert

December 16th, 2021

48:44

During this episode, Jackye and Katee talk to Joshua Gilbert. Joshua Gilbert, CEO, and Founder, Circle Search, LLC. He has championed over 19 years …

Careerbeacon.com gets Acquired

December 15th, 2021

30:16

Yves Boudreau, CEO of AlongSide and All On Board has some huge news to share. And he’s excited!


  • When the CEO of ZipRecruiters says your ATS is one of …

The Great Awakening w/ Andrew Flowers

December 13th, 2021

30:59

The pandemic, labor shortages, and a supply chain debacle have opened our eyes to many subjects like immigration, wages, retirement, remote work, working conditions, and many other factors that impact our everyday …

Talking Strategy With Cornerstone's Heidi Spirgi

December 10th, 2021

14:51

Cornerstone’s acquisition by Clearlake Capital, the pandemic’s impact on the company’s approach and its commitment to content.

HelloTeam CEO Tanya Bakalov on Covid and the Importance of Culture

December 9th, 2021

14:30

We're thinking that entire employee experience encompasses so much more, and the pressure is that much higher on all of us.

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Omolara Uwemedimo

December 8th, 2021

57:18

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Dr. Olomara Uwedimo. Dr. Omolara Thomas Uwemedimo is an empowerment coach, business development & …

Diversity Hiring Report 2021

December 6th, 2021

30:42

Have you read SmartRecruiters' "Diversity Hiring Report"? aka The path to Hell is paved with good intentions...

Ya' should, even if it is a little …

Clovers AI's CEO Doug Leonard on How Tech Improves Hiring

December 3rd, 2021

17:24

Managers often pursue ineffective lines of questioning that push a search off-track.

Ep 396: Talent Acquisition Revolution

December 3rd, 2021

30:01

We often talk about evolution in talent acquisition. That has always seemed appropriate in an area where the pace of change has been relatively slow …

Firing Squad: Turazo's Pete Cipollone

December 1st, 2021

34:12

Video remains one of the hottest technologies around when it comes to recruiting, and one company, Turazo, approaches it in a whole new way, bringing …

Ep 395: The Challenges Of Recruiting Recruiters

November 30th, 2021

27:10

We've been talking continuously about challenging talent markets on this podcast since March. However, we've not so far mentioned the one specific skill shortage which is affecting everyone. The pressure on many …

Ep 394: Lessons From Startups

November 28th, 2021

29:01

Although I've tended to work with very large enterprise businesses as a consultant, I've always been fascinated by startups and the lessons larger, …

Ep 393: Hiring From Marginalised Groups

November 26th, 2021

22:40

For many years I've been reading about the work UK retailer Timpson does to hire ex-offenders and other marginalised groups. What they do is a win win win situation. It's a win for the ex-offenders who get a job, it's a …

The Future is Here and It's Utopia with Angela Hood

November 23rd, 2021

34:22

Angela Hood, CEO and founder of This Way Global who is in the Google Accelerator program. No half hearted efforts allowed. We talked about what it takes to be brought along in this program and it's nothing short of …

High Volume Hiring Report w/ Madeline Laurano

November 22nd, 2021

20:08

What exactly is High Volume Hiring? 

Is high volume different than a gig? 

Do I need a different system or will my ATS adapt?

Why are applicants …

Aaron Smith, ADP's SVP of Product Development

November 19th, 2021

19:30

Patterns are changing, especially when so many workers feel empowered to jump from their current jobs.

Aaron Smith, ADP's SVP of Product Development

November 19th, 2021

19:30

Patterns are changing, especially when so many workers feel empowered to jump from their current jobs.

Getting Inclusive AF with Jes and Jessica

November 18th, 2021

1:08:34

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Jes and Jessica, co-founders of the Rise Journey, a DEI Consultancy. They share their thoughts on a number …

The CATK Interview: Baltimore Artist Kim Rice

November 18th, 2021

42:41

Join Torin and Julie in welcoming creator of Being White, Redlining, and The Inheritance on a must listen interview.

Kim Rice creates large-scale …

It's Mr. ATS

November 17th, 2021

31:16

The world knows Mr. Rogers. Mr. T. And even Mr. Mister if you're of a certain age. But Mr. ATS? Yes, industry veteran Peter Gold has taken up a …

No one Loves or Hates Vanilla with Bas Van de Haterd

November 16th, 2021

31:52

Bas Van de Haterd, Mr. Netherlands and host of Talent Savvy Podcast


  • Did you ever think we would see a good case for assessments in the hiring process? 

DecuSoft's Bob Laurenzo on What Customers Want from Compensation Software

November 12th, 2021

13:30

He talks about talk about integrations, the impact of Covid and the Great Resignation, and the industry challenges he's keeping an eye on.

Getting Inclusive AF with Tara Robertson and Alexandra Samuel

November 10th, 2021

59:04

Jackye and Katee had more fun with Tara Robertson and she brought a friend! Alexandra Samuel and Tara recently published an article in the Harvard Business Review entitled "Don't Let Hybrid Work Set Back Your DEI …

Rare Breed w/ Sunny Bonnell

November 10th, 2021

31:50

Every company is looking to discover rare breeds, whether they be in the company already, or roaming the pastures of commerce externally. But the HOW tends to be elusive. That's why Chad & Cheese brings Rare Breed …

COVID Mandates - Get your Facts Straight

November 9th, 2021

27:58

Every company needs to have a great employment lawyer on speed dial! Rick brings over 30 years as an Employment Lawyer to this episode. We tackle a very controversial topic vaccines mandates, Bit of feelings, bit of …

Firing Squad: Worqdrive's Tracey Parsons

November 8th, 2021

35:33

The Great Resignation. Heard of it? Of course you have, and that's why you're hoping you can find a way to keep your best employees from jumping ship and going to your competition. Never fear, WorqDrive from industry …

Ep 388: Candidates In Control

November 8th, 2021

33:59

Challenging talent markets and the increasing adoption of AI-driven technology are driving a revolution in recruiting. We now see recruiting …

Ep 387: Assessment Innovation

November 5th, 2021

34:25

Over the last couple of years, I've become fascinated by the innovation in the tools available to assess candidates in the recruiting process. While …

The Ecosystem of QuickBooks Time

November 5th, 2021

18:32

Intuit's Danielle Price talks about Quickbooks Time and the partnerships behind it.

The Ecosystem of QuickBooks Time

November 5th, 2021

18:32

Intuit's Danielle Price talks about Quickbooks Time and the partnerships behind it.

Ep. 19: Girish Jain & Josh Goldstien - Hiring The People You Really Want

November 4th, 2021

28:21

When the fabulous Ed Han suggests you interview two of his favourite hiring managers, you know it'll be a brilliant conversation!

And it would seem I …

Modern Hire's Eric Sydell on Science and Talent Acquisition

November 3rd, 2021

16:17

Modern Hire's executive vice president of innovation discusses tools and research in talent acquisition.

Chats with Smart People - Coby Schneider, Workforce Strategy Intel Corporation

November 2nd, 2021

35:43

Allyn & Tracey have a fascinating conversation with Coby Schneider from Intel. Coby has a an intriguing career path from TA operations and recruitment marketing focus to embedding within the business to drive …

Fuel50's Anne Fulton on Talent and New Marketplaces

October 29th, 2021

17:19

We talk about the dynamics of internal mobility and get into some nuts and bolts,

Ep 385: Aligning Talent Acquisition & Talent Management

October 29th, 2021

19:40

As external talent markets get ever more challenging, internal mobility is becoming a more significant issue. Unsurprisingly then, one of the major themes of the past year has been the ever closer relationship between …

SAP Fieldglass's Vish Baliga on Contingent Work and the Future

October 27th, 2021

16:46

Not surprisingly, SAP Fieldglass's CTO spends a lot of time thinking about contingent workers and contractors.

Ep 384: Diversity In Action

October 27th, 2021

23:28

There is a lot of talk about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in talent acquisition, but when you dig below the surface, the amount of practical action happening doesn't live up to the promises made.


A few weeks ago long …

Christian Forman - CEO of Appcast

October 26th, 2021

32:59

Exciting to bring one of the most influential leaders in the Talent Acquisition space Christian Forman - CEO of Appcast.

  • We find out how Appcast …

EEOC Talks A.I. w/ Commissioner Keith Sonderling

October 25th, 2021

46:51

Technology has been a great thing for recruiting, but there's a dark side. Namely, artificial intelligence. A.I. has made companies more efficient …

Fountain CEO Sean Behr Looks at the Labor Market

October 22nd, 2021

16:39

We talk with Sean Behr, the CEO of high-volume recruiting firm Fountain, about Covid-19’s impact on hiring and the dynamics of the labor market in …

Ep 383: Recruitonomics

October 22nd, 2021

30:40

Talent markets are crazy, recruiting is tough, and it can be challenging to get any sort of perspective on what is going on. So how can we make sense …

Ep. 18: David Allen Moss - Evergreen Is Not On Mute!

October 21st, 2021

36:35

After The Chad, introduced me to the fabulous people at Evergreen Podcasts, who now host this very podcast, and we got chatting about hiring …

Ep 382: HR's Impact On Talent Brand

October 20th, 2021

38:22

With everything that is going on in the market, it is more important than ever to understand the factors that make people feel positive enough to want to advocate for their employer or feel negative enough to want to …

Getting Inclusive AF with Amanda Young

October 20th, 2021

48:04

Amanda Young has just authorized an amazing children's book and she is here to share what drove her to write the book, "Jumo the Unicorn". Amanda is so transparent about her journey about how to drive inclusion and …

Class in Session with Steven Rothberg

October 19th, 2021

36:14

Recruiting grads or recent grads? This is a must listen episode as Steven Rothberg Founder and Chief Visionary at CollegeRecruiter.com joins Serge …

Sexing Up Trade Jobs w/ Megan Kacvinsky

October 18th, 2021

23:50

Believe it or not, a lot of ad agencies that don't target recruitment do recruiting marketing work. One such agency is Point to Point out of …

Trakstar's Julie Rieken on Experience and the Great Resignation

October 15th, 2021

17:05

We talk about candidates, employees and their behavior during the Great Resignation.

Getting Inclusive AF with Joseph Ifiegbu

October 14th, 2021

49:39

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Joseph Ifiegbu about futbol, dream jobs and the tool he co-founded that can help HR teams by analyzing …

Ep 381: People First Automation

October 14th, 2021

23:54

Recruiting automation via conversational AI is proving to be an effective way to help solve some of the unique challenges in today's talent …

Ep 380: Transformational Hiring

October 13th, 2021

35:40

Digital transformation is currently one of the fundamental drivers of talent strategy for many organizations. Ensuring your company has the right …

Started from the bottom w/ Larry Dunivan

October 13th, 2021

36:11

The boys welcome Namely CEO Larry Dunivan to the show to talk industry history, leadership, issues of diversity and inclusion, as well as a growth strategy and whether or not an IPO is in the offing.  


It's rare to find …

Coming up for Air with Adam Gordon

October 12th, 2021

27:26

Our favourite Scots! Adam Gordon joins The Recruitment Flex. Adam's knowledge and passion on recruitment marketing shines through in this episode.

Strivr CEO Derek Belch on How VR Learning is Becoming Real

October 8th, 2021

20:44

Strivr CEO Derek Belch discusses how VR learning works and where it’s going.

Ep 379: The Right To Remain Human

October 8th, 2021

22:10

As our working lives become ever more focused on digital screens and devices, how can employers ensure that they support their employees' mental wellness? Also, with the growth of digital tracking and surveillance in …

Ep 378: Values Driven Retention and Recruiting

October 7th, 2021

19:37

Keeping employees is as difficult as attracting employees at the moment, and, as ever, it is particularly tough in the tech sector. The relationship …

Marcus Buckingham and ADP's New HR XPerience Score

October 1st, 2021

20:06

We talk with the ADP Research Institute's head of people and performance research.

The CATK Interview: Frantz Berthaud

October 1st, 2021

51:06

The CATK Interview with Frantz M. Berthaud Administrative Director, Disease Center Operations of the Lowe Center for Thoracic Oncology and the Center …

The CATK Interview: Gerard Charlot

October 1st, 2021

32:20

Gerard Charlot is passionate about helping the BIPOC community by addressing systemic challenges in the health care system by educating people of …

Ep 377: Strategic AI

October 1st, 2021

25:45

Talent Acquisition is uniquely challenging at the moment. Impossible talent markets, virtual recruiting, and evolving EVPs are just a small selection …

Katrina Kibben - Writer's Block

September 28th, 2021

29:52

Shelley fly's solo this weeks and welcomes a recruitment industry powerhouse! Katrina Kibben, CEO of Three Ears Media We found the cure for …

Lori Sylvia - Rally Recruitment Marketing

September 28th, 2021

33:44

With a solid track record as a CMO who introduces new concepts to consumers; she made the leap over to HR & Recruitment where Lori has been …

Dr. Leeno Karumanchery - Simple Truths about DE&I

September 28th, 2021

41:34

If you want to hear the simple truth about DE&I in the workplace - you have come to the right place. Dr. Leeno Karumamchery from Mesh/Diversity breaks it down it down for us. Let's begin with the simple facts of the …

Recruitment Truth Tellin' w/ Julia Levy

September 27th, 2021

35:24

Think your pandemic policies and practices were a lot to deal with? Try cat-herding a 30,000-person company. That's just what Commscope faced and …

Ep 375: The Magic Of Behavioural Science

September 22nd, 2021

45:50

Over the last couple of years, I've developed an increasing interest in the use of behavioural science in advertising and marketing and its growing …

Firing Squad: Resume Sieve's Michael Yinger

September 20th, 2021

37:08

Matching is hot, but no one has cracked the SMB market. Enter The Sieve.

Yeah, we know, horrible name, but how's the tech, strategy, and team? COO and co-founder Michael Yinger, an industry veteran who's done time at …

Ep 374: The Whole Person Workplace

September 17th, 2021

26:32

The relationship between employees and employers is fundamentally changing. The integration of work and life has never been more in focus. Making work better for employees is no longer a wish list item; it is imperative …

Ep 373: Filling The Talent Gap

September 16th, 2021

24:01

Talent markets continue to be challenging globally, and employers have to think differently to fill the talent gaps within their organisations. So what strategies are working, and what might the future look like?


My …

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Aysha Khoury

September 15th, 2021

1:01:27

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Dr. Aysha Khoury, an esteemed professor who lost her job after being asked to talk about inequities in …

Marketing Owns Employer Brand

September 13th, 2021

26:51

Who should own the employer brand?

HR?

Talent Acquisition?

or maybe, oh I don't know... MARKETING!?!?

Brandon Linn oversees employer brand marketing and …

Ep 372: Workforce Agility

September 10th, 2021

26:11

Employee experience, hybrid working, DE&I, workforce fluidity, and workplace technology. These are just a few of the challenges employers face as …

Getting Inclusive AF with Helvetikah Blak

September 9th, 2021

58:07

In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Helvetikah Blak @helvetikahblak , an amazing drag queen! She shares a lot about her journey and how she has finally come into her identity as non-binary and the work she is …

Ep 371: Work Tech Acceleration

September 8th, 2021

29:11

2021 has seen mindblowing levels of investment in HR and Talent Acquisition technology. Work Tech, as it is now becoming known, is strategically …

Hung Lee from Recruiting Brainfood

September 7th, 2021

33:26

Hung Lee Chief Curator at the Recruiting Brainfood rejoins The Recruitment Flex to try to give some clarity with what's going on in this crazy recruitment world right now. We always get incredible insights from Hung and …

Ep5 --- Moving Fast & Breaking Shit w/ Amy Butchko

September 6th, 2021

24:20

Welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is the final episode of this 5 part binge-able series. We …

Ep4 -- Treat AI like a Puppy w/ Amy Butchko

September 6th, 2021

25:02

welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is episode 4 or a 5 part binge-able series. You're gonna …

Ep3 -- Last Sourcer Standing w/ Amy Butchko

September 6th, 2021

25:17

Welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is episode 3 or a 5 part binge-able series. We pick up …

Ep2 -- Win Friends & Influence Budget w/ Amy Butchko

September 6th, 2021

22:24

Welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is episode 2 or a 5 part binge-able series. We pick up …

Ep 1 -- The Struggle is Real w/ Amy Butchko

September 6th, 2021

21:09

Hey it's Chad, it's been a minute since we've had a deep dive VOICES series and after speaking with Amy Butchko, SAIC's Director of Talent Solutions …

Ep 370: The Future Of Candidate Experience

September 1st, 2021

26:00

It is an absolute delight to be back after a slightly longer summer podcasting break than I was anticipating. I've nearly finished my book and, most …

Burn, Build, Rinse & Repeat w/ JCK

August 18th, 2021

38:57

When Indeed goes from $33-per to $300-per-applicant it's time to burn it down, build up something new, and then look to the future to rinse and repeat.

Seriously, can imagine discovering your cost-per-applicant on Indeed …

Social Media Background Checks w/ Bianca Lager

August 15th, 2021

33:37

Social media is hotter than ever!

Okay put your phone down it's not time to check Tiktok for pet videos and NBA highlights! You'll want to hear all the latest background check trends with social media with the president …

Getting Inclusive AF with Wil Shelton

August 11th, 2021

44:15

In this episode, Katee flies solo to talk to Wil Shelton, author of "Silent Agreement" which relates the corporate experience for people of color to …

Ep 368: Employee Engagement & Disability

July 30th, 2021

28:15

People with disabilities represent 15% of the global population but are often left out of diversity initiatives, programs, surveys, and even basic …

Chats with Smart People - Lauryn Sargent, Partner at Stories Incorporated

July 28th, 2021

34:07

Buckle up everyone you are in for a deep and thought provoking podcast. Allyn Bailey & Tracey Parsons explore the topics of what it takes to be an entrepreneur and especially a woman entrepreneur with Lauryn Sargent …

Ep. 17: Steve Norman - It's All About The Stand-Up!

July 22nd, 2021

32:26

It's hard to believe that this was Steve Norman's first ever podcast interview! The conversation flowed effortlessly and it was so interesting hearing how VIOOH's Head of Engineering went about hiring 13 Java Developers …

Chats with Smart People - Tyler Weeks, Head of Partnership and Strategy at Hiredscore

July 14th, 2021

50:12

Welcome to our first episode of our new podcast series Chats with Smart People. This month we are joined by Tyler Weeks, Head of partnership and …

Ep 365: Engagement In Executive Recruiting

July 9th, 2021

30:34

One of the topics I get asked to cover frequently is the growth of the corporate executive recruiting function. So with that in mind, I've partnered with ESIX, The Executive Search Information Exchange, to bring you a …

Ep. 16: Bennett Sung - Unlocking The Interview Enigma

July 8th, 2021

33:46

Bennett Sung is one of my favourite HR tech marketers, who also happens to be a hiring manager. I have been lucky to know Bennett for around 8 years …

Ep 364: Diversity In Executive Hiring

July 2nd, 2021

35:41

One of the topics I get asked to cover frequently is the growth of the corporate executive recruiting function. So with that in mind, I've partnered with ESIX, The Executive Search Information Exchange, to bring you a …

Ep 361: Scaling Up Recruiting

June 21st, 2021

36:22

The corporate focus on Talent Acquisition is significant at the moment as companies across the world deal with the challenges of getting the right talent into their organisations. But what strategies do talent …

Ep. 15: Adam Gibson - Hiring For Workforce Planning

June 17th, 2021

34:45

Great to chat to Adam Gibson, global leader in Workforce Planning, People Analytics, & Orghanisational Design, and Author of Agile Workforce Planning, about the impact of the pandemic on workforce planning and more! 

Ep. 14: Sukhvinder Pabial - The Joy Of Hiring Without A CV

June 10th, 2021

33:03

When I saw Sukhvinder Pabial's blog about the freedom he found recruiting without an applicant's CV, I had to know more. Sukh runs his own company,

Ep. 13: Sara Burgess - Insights: Managing Disappointment

June 3rd, 2021

33:42

Welcome to the second insights interview with Sara Burgess, Senior L&D Professional, Business Psychologist, Executive Coach and my friend, all …

Ep. 12: Tracey Parsons: Don't Make Me Write It Down!

May 27th, 2021

35:22

Chatting to Tracey Parson is always a joy and her new company, WORQDRIVE, supports this very podcast but she's also a hiring manager. So I couldn't …

Ep. 11: Zuzanna Santos - The Secret Sauce

May 20th, 2021

26:39

After seeing an empathetic post from Zuzanna Santos, assisting the people coming in to interview with her, I asked Lisa Scales to connect us. You'll soon get why Lisa was super excited that I chat to Zuzanna. 


We chatted …

Getting Inclusive AF with Ashten Fizer

May 19th, 2021

1:09:30

In this episode, Katee and Jackye talk to Ashten Fizer about music, hair, Employee Resources Groups, and what companies can do to not just SAY they're inclusive but actually BE inclusive AF. Katee gets awkward and cries …

Getting Inclusive AF with Tara Robertson

April 30th, 2021

57:35

We should probably just call this part 1 of the Tara Robertson episode because we did not give enough time to talk about everything we wanted to …

Getting Inclusive AF with Jess Von Bank

April 22nd, 2021

52:55

In this episode, we are joined by Jess Von Bank, Storyteller, President of Diverse Daisies, Head of Marketing for Leapgen, promoter of women, #GirlMom and all-around bada$$. We talk about ALL THE THINGS in this episode …

Ep. 9: Ch'ien Chan - Challenging The Status Quo

April 15th, 2021

36:04

It took only a few moments to understand why Heidi Wassini said that I must speak interview Ch'ien Chan. He's the Head of Design at Vivino, the world's largest online wine marketplace, and you'll soon hear their high …

Getting Inclusive AF With Goolie Alvarez

April 14th, 2021

46:02

This episode will make you smile! We were fortunate to have Goolie Alvarez come and share a bit about Goolie, fashion, Tejano culture and so much …

Ep. 8: Anna Boyarkina - The Honour In Hiring

April 8th, 2021

25:00

Snooping around Anna Boyarkina's profile had me super curious to hear about her career to date; from studying economics & business to starting an …

Ep. 7: Iris Kroonstuiver - Balancing Inner Gender Roles

April 1st, 2021

33:18

As soon as I was introduced to Iris Kroonstuiver, I knew it was going to be an amazing conversation and it sure is, grab pen and paper.


Of course, Iris is an exceptional hiring leader (referred by Alla Pavlova, thank …

Ep. 6: Kay Epps - Shared Responsibility

March 25th, 2021

36:44

At the end of this conversation, you'll know why I was excited to speak to Operations Director, Kay Epps, after Michael Goldberg kindly made the …

Ep. 5: Joshua Hoffman - Integrity And No A*holes

March 18th, 2021

33:46

Without hesitation, Alla Pavlova said, "Joshua Hoffman!" when I asked for a fabulous hiring leader to interview and in 30 minutes you'll understand …

Ep. 4: Suzanne Wolko - Mind The Gap Bias

March 11th, 2021

34:14

Suzanne Wolko is a fabulous Financial Services Executive with experience in Finance, HR and Operations, and a slayer of "this is how we've always …

Let's Talk About it with Tamara Rasberry

March 4th, 2021

57:44

You are seeing more people talk about how, there needs to be more mental health, resources, and communities. It starts from these small, one-on-one conversations to these larger like workplace conversations to these …

Ep. 3: Peter B Nichol - Hire For Learning Intelligence

March 4th, 2021

32:28

By the end of this interview with CIO & CTO, Peter Nichol, two of his books were in my shopping basket (but don't tell him I was multi-tasking!).


Ep. 2: Jennifer Zaborowski - Wide-Angled vs. Laser Focused

February 25th, 2021

35:21

What a joy to interview Jennifer Zaborowski, PhD Associate Director, IT Business Operations about leadership, recruiting and mentoring.


Cartoon and playground references, the importance of building women up, the book

Getting Inclusive AF with Rowdy Duncan

February 18th, 2021

1:12:22

Jackye and Katee have a great conversation with Rowdy Duncan, as part of a cross-over from his podcast, Inclusive Activism. Rowdy is a Communications Professor and advocate for Inclusion.

Rowdy has great insights on …

Ep. 1: Glenn Elliott - Hiring With Context & Vulnerability

February 18th, 2021

34:34

There was never going to be anyone else but Glenn Elliott as the first guest on The Hiring Partner Perspective (Unedited) and why will become very …

Getting Inclusive AF With Elena Valentine

February 10th, 2021

1:02:21

Elena is an expert in leveraging video stories in the workplace. With the motto “you cannot be what you cannot see” Elena started filming jobs as a way to get young people excited about the world of work. Since then, …

Getting Inclusive AF with Elena Joy Thurston

February 3rd, 2021

58:01

What does fly-fishing have to do with gay conversion therapy? Elena Joy tells us that and so much more. Like, what it is like being an ex-Mormon, out lesbian, marathon runner, mom of 3 who runs her own foundation! 

If …

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