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Heat and Light

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1968 transformed life in the U.S. forever. Join us as we go deep into six lesser-known stories from that year, guided by people who were so affected they devoted their lives to studying those events. From the students who rose up in protest to American TV's first interracial kiss, and from the roots… read more


Detroit is Burning

As 1968 began, the city of Detroit was dealing with the aftermath of some of the worst race riots the country had ever seen. That year, the Kerner Commission, appointed by president Lyndon Johnson, placed the blame squarely on the way the police and the city government had handled the response. In this episode, Jeffrey Horner, a professor of urban studies at Wayne State University, speaks with Phillip about how race and class divisions met with economic and social upheaval to shape the city as it tried to rebuild... and also how the city shaped them, as they themselves grew up in Detroit at the time.

Read more in this accompanying article from Jeffrey Horner: Police killings of 3 black men left a mark on Detroit’s history more than 50 years ago

Music on this episode: Something to save" by Komiku, found on, licensed under CC0 1

“This tuning is so dramatic” by Monplaisir, found on, licensed under CC0 1

Archival audio WKNR Contact News - Detroit 1967

Address to the Nation Regarding Civil Disorder, 7/27/67. MP594.

Racism in America Small Town 1950s Case Study Documentary Film

Misconduct allegations mount inside Detroit Police Department

Police misconduct costing Detroit millions of dollars

Ex-DPD officers charged with misconduct

Detroit police officer charged with assault and misconduct in rough arrest at Meijer

Police brutality at Detroit Meijer 8 mile and Woodward

The Detroit 1967 Riots: A Community Speaks

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