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Futurized - thought leadership on the future

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The Futurized podcast goes beneath the trends, tracking the underlying forces of disruption in tech, policy, business models, social dynamics, and the environment. Futurist Trond Arne Undheim, PhD, author, investor, and serial entrepreneur, interviews smart people with a soul. Every week, founders, … read more


The Future of Peer-to-Peer

Michel Bauwens, Founder of the P2P Foundation and co-author of Peer-to-Peer: The Commons Manifesto, interviewed by futurist Trond Arne Undheim. 

In this conversation, we talked about how the world may have reached a tipping point where the balance between centralized and distributed activity as well as for profit and not for profit activity have overreached its boundaries. In Bauwens’ analysis, historically when this happens, with civilizations such as the Mayans, or the Chinese, a reversal of polarity happens, and society moves into healing mode. The difference this time, is that the system is global, and that we have nowhere else to go. Our challenge now is, whether we are capable of living within planetary boundaries. Bauwens, in this respect, subscribes to a functionalist pulse-wave theory of cyclical change.

My takeaway is that the commons is indeed an interesting seemingly growing sentiment and a reaction to both big capitalism and libertarianism, a third way, if you will. I wrote about this phenomenon in my 2008 book Leadership From Below. Arguably, an increased focus on developing the commons, would help foster a more egalitarian, just and sustainable world. I found Bauwens critique of the crypto-anarchic divide between commoners and libertarians, the latter underlying blockchain quite interesting, as I had earlier perhaps put that effort more in the commons camp than it deserves, because at the surface, they are both about getting rid of the middleman. 

After listening to the episode, check out Michel's most recent book, the P2P Foundation, as well as his social media profile:

The show is hosted by Podbean and can be found at Additional context about the show, the topics, and our guests, including show notes and a full list of podcast players that syndicate the show can be found at Music: Electricity by Ian Post from the album Magnetism. 

For more about the host, including media coverage, books and more, see Trond Arne Undheim's personal website ( as well as the Yegii Insights blog ( Undheim has published two books this year, Pandemic Aftermath and Disruption Games. To advertise or become a guest on the show, contact the podcast host here. If you like the show, please subscribe and consider rating it five stars.


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