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Find The Outside

79 EpisodesProduced by Tim Merry & Tuesday Ryan-HartWebsite

A lively, off-the-cuff conversation hosted by Tuesday Ryan-Hart and Tim Merry on large-scale systems change and equity. Together, Tim and Tuesday are THE OUTSIDE - systems change and equity facilitators who bring the fresh air necessary to organize movements, organizations, and collaborators forward… read more


4.04: Outside Conversations with Margaret Wheatley

Tuesday and Tim are joined by friend and mentor, Margaret (Meg) Wheatley, co-founder and president of The Berkana Institute, where she talks about the journey of her new work - a multi-sensory experience - The Warrior’s Songline, the natural world, and the recognition that memories, history, and information that we need are in the land.

Tim, Tuesday and Meg discuss the foundations of friendship, warrior training, the cultural appropriation pushback The Warrior’s Songline has received, anthropocentrism, the work and joy of surrendering and opening to what is possible, the distinction between using confusion as a defence strategy and not knowing as a life stance, and what humans are capable of creating when we work together with a good spirit, good listening, and generosity.

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