Everybody's Talking at Once

45 EpisodesProduced by Drew Messinger-Michaels and Lucio Valentino

Trying to make sense of things, and sometimes even succeeding. A podcast about videogames, music, books, movies, television, theater, gallery art, and life as (mostly) proud citizens of the Internet.

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What We Played and ‘Casted (and What We Didn’t) in 2018

December 15th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 45. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/etao-podcast-45.mp3

As 2018 winds down, esteemed ETAO Podcast producer Frances Michelle Lopez sits down to talk about what we played in 2018, what …

The Perfidy of THE SUN, with Heather Flowers

December 1st, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 44. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/etao-podcast-44.mp3

Heather Flowers talks EXTREME MEATPUNKS FOREVER: Powered by Blood (and the MEATPUNKS material beyond). We talk about body horror, …

This Is a Call (Back) to ARMS

November 17th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 43. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/etao-podcast-43.mp3

ARMS got announced with the Switch, and it launched with the Switch, and it’s been both passionately loved and broadly ignored. …

Be a Part of the World You’re Changing, with Jakub Kasztalski

November 3rd, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 42. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/etao-podcast-42.mp3

Headliner: NoviNews puts you in the shoes of he/she/xe who curates the news in a country that is rapidly going strange, and just as …

Something Wicked This Way Apples, with Bobby Fowler and Brenda Noiseux

October 31st, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 41. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/etao-podcast-41.mp3

Bobby Fowler and Brenda Noiseux (collectively known as Almost …

The Persistence of (Stories about) Memory, with Henrik Pettersson

October 20th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 40. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/etao-podcast-40.mp3

Henrik Pettersson introduces us to The Gardens Between, a wordless narrative puzzle game in which you play as time itself. We talk …

Let’s Be Bards, with Greg Lobanov

October 6th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 39.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/etao-podcast-39.mp3
Greg Lobanov swings by to walk about Wandersong, with its happy-go-lucky approach to world-in-the-balance storytelling, its massive …

This Is MEATPUNK and I’m Telling Everyone, with Josie Brechner (a.k.a. Visager)

September 22nd, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 38. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/etao-podcast-38.mp3

Josie Brechner (a.k.a. Visager) talks about her OST work in EXTREME MEATPUNKS FOREVER, Blossom Tales, Spice of Life, Gay Monster …

Singing Dunes and Wandering Creatures, with Max Arocena

September 8th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 37. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/etao-podcast-37.mp3

Max Arocena (a.k.a. Colorfiction) hangs out on his porch, amid …

REPL PUNK, with Zach Barth

August 25th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 36. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/etao-podcast-36.mp3

Zach Barth is back to talk about EXAPUNKS, and the cyber-lanche (always create new hyphenate words, in accordance with the WIRED

Co-Op Hath Four Furies, with Kenny Lee

April 18th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 35. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/etao-podcast-351.mp3

Kenny Lee is the less-frequently-interviewed half of the two-brother team that founded Cellar Door Games, the studio behind (most …

You Can Feel Great All The Time Solving Problems, with Zach Barth

March 21st, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 34. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/etao-podcast-34.mp3

Zach Barth is back to talk about Opus Magnum and SHENZHEN I/O, the latest in each of Zachtronics’ semi-distinct trademark genres: …

Thumbprints and Thunder, with Joel Corelitz

February 15th, 2018

ETAO Podcast, Episode 33. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/etao-podcast-33.mp3

Joel Corelitz drops in to discuss his work on GOROGOA, TumbleSeed, The Unfinished Swan, and Eastward, along with the broader design …

On Orcs and Orchestras, with Garry Schyman

October 10th, 2017

ETAO Podcast, Episode 32. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/etao-podcast-32.mp3

Garry Schyman scored all three Bioshocks, all three Destroy …

Pyre, Purgatories, Prison Dramas, and Talking Dogs, with Greg Kasavin

July 24th, 2017

ETAO Podcast, Episode 31. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/etao-podcast-31.mp3

Greg Kasavin stops by to discuss Supergiant’s latest, the party-based purgatory-escape-’em-up Pyre. We also find some time to …

Persona 5 and the Punk of Pope Joan, with Adam Osborn

June 9th, 2017

ETAO Podcast, Episode 30. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/etao-podcast-30.mp3

Medievalist, archnerd, and outspoken Persona-enjoyer Adam Osborn returns to discuss Persona 5—as well as visual novels, waifus, and …

A Seminar (Just Bearly) on Persona 3 and 4, with Adam Osborn

March 28th, 2017

ETAO Podcast, Episode 29. https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/etao-podcast-29.mp3

Drew’s good buddy Adam Osborn, PhD-pursuer and self-described archnerd, stops by the discuss the Persona games in anticipation of

Criticizing Videogame Critique, Part 2, with Richard Terrell

November 22nd, 2016

ETAO Podcast, Episode 28.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/etao-podcast-28.mp3
Last week, Richard Terrell outlined his framework for taxonomizing and evaluating game criticism, and we spent some time using that …

Criticizing Videogame Critique, Part 1, with Richard Terrell

November 15th, 2016

ETAO Podcast, Episode 27.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/etao-podcast-27.mp3
Richard Terrell returns to talk about Design Oriented, his attempt to categorize, catalog, and (here’s where things get interesting)

The Dark Souls of Increasingly Unhelpful Analogies

November 8th, 2016

Gem Fusions and Fandom Fissions in the Universe of Steven Universe

November 1st, 2016

ETAO Podcast, Episode 25.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/etao-podcast-25.mp3
Lucio and I are both fans of Steven Universe, but we’re not exactly members of the Steven Universe fandom—or fandoms, plural, each …

Virtual Realities and Pretend Robots, with Dan Teasdale (and Cassie)

October 25th, 2016

ETAO Podcast, Episode 24.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/etao-podcast-24.mp3
Dan Teasdale returns to discuss No Goblin’s sophomore effort,

Node-Crawling and Puzzle-Fighting, with Chris McQuinn

October 20th, 2016

ETAO Podcast, Episode 23.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/etao-podcast-23-201610201.mp3
Chris McQuinn stops by to discuss DrinkBox Studios’ latest, the touch-based first-person dungeon-crawling amputate-’em-up

Squaring The Magic Circle, with Jordan Thomas, Kain Shin, and Stephen Alexander

August 3rd, 2015

A Pseudo-Instruction That Has No Effect, with Zach Barth

July 14th, 2015

Toys in Games, Games as Toys, and Action Henk as Both, with Roel Ezendam

May 11th, 2015

ETAO Podcast, Episode 20.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/etao-podcast-20-20150511.ogg
Action Henk is out (of Steam Early Access) today, and to celebrate, here’s my conversation with Roel Ezendam of RageSquid …

On the Semi-Unspoilability of Infinifactory, with Zach Barth

May 4th, 2015

Games That Don’t Exclude and Foxes That Don’t Talk, with Erin Robinson

March 2nd, 2015

On the Art of the Anti-Puzzle, with Zach Barth

January 29th, 2015

ETAO Podcast, Episode 17.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/etao-podcast-17-20150129.ogg
Infinifactory feels like SpaceChem for the world that Minecraft hath wrought—which makes sense, given that it’s the latest …

All That Glitters Is Not Goblin, with Dan Teasdale

January 27th, 2015

ETAO Podcast, Episode 16.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/etao-podcast-16-20150127.ogg
Dan Teasdale stops by to talk about Roundabout, the debut game from his newly-founded two-person indie studio No Goblin. We …

Work-of-Art-as-Gateway-Drug (and How the Internet Will Hopefully Solve Everything), with Jack Lawrence Mayer

October 3rd, 2014

Making a Sequel to Chess and Making Sense of IP Law, with Zac Burns

August 19th, 2014

ETAO Podcast, Episode 14.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/etao-podcast-14-201408192.ogg
Zac Burns of Ludeme Games joins me to discuss his studio’s digital adaptation of Chess 2, which is out on OUYA, and as of …

Lizardry, Technology, and What to Call Roguelikes, with Geoff Blair and Matt Hackett

July 15th, 2014

ETAO Podcast, Episode 13.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/etao-podcast-13-20140715.ogg
At first glance, A Wizard’s Lizard doesn’t seem like a roguelike-alike, but more specifically like a Binding of Isaac-alike

The Oddness of Art and the Forgotten History of Sound, with Lila Newman

July 8th, 2014

ETAO Podcast, Episode 12.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/etao-podcast-12-20140708.ogg
Self-described Actor/Writer/Comedian/Musician/Plant-Owner Lila Newman stops by to discuss her piece-in-progress about Ora …

Evaluating Transistor

June 27th, 2014

It’s a Dad, Dad, Dad, Dad World, with Phil Tibitoski

March 11th, 2014

ETAO Podcast, Episode 10.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/etao-podcast-10-201403113.ogg
Phil Tibitoski stops by to talk about Octodad: Dadliest Catch, the upcoming update and PS4 release thereof, and what’s …

Making Sense of the Macklemore Backlash, Part 2

February 11th, 2014

ETAO Podcast, Episode 09.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/etao-podcast-09-201402112.ogg
Unproductively hating Macklemore: It’s not just for Kendrick Lamar fans anymore! Last week, we talked about the backlash …

Making Sense of the Macklemore Backlash, Part 1

February 4th, 2014

ETAO Podcast, Episode 08.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/etao-podcast-08-20140204.ogg
The Heist is a really good album. good kid, m.A.A.d. city is a really good album. How did we get to the point where those …

Defining Games (But Not Art) with Richard Terrell

January 14th, 2014

Enthusing and Kvetching with Alex Preston

December 26th, 2013

ETAO Podcast, Episode 06.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/etao-podcast-06-201312261.ogg
Alex Preston, Lead Designer of Hyper Light Drifter, stops by to discuss how limitations foster and enable creativity, how …

How Steam Became the Most/Only Acceptable DRM

December 10th, 2013

ETAO Podcast, Episode 05.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/etao-podcast-05-201312101.ogg
When last we left the saga of SteamOS, Lucio and I were envisioning a future owned and operated by Valve, and for the most …

Will SteamOS Kill Consoles and/or Save Christmas?

December 3rd, 2013

Unpacking the Indie Custom Cube

November 26th, 2013

What Happens After Success, with Davey Wreden

November 9th, 2013

On Weirdness and Geek Culture, with Jake Kazdal

August 27th, 2013

ETAO Podcast, Episode 01.

https://etao.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/etao-podcast-01-jake-kazdal.ogg
Game developer and graphic artist Jake Kazdal, who you might know from his work on Rez and Space Channel 5 Part 2, joins …

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