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Educated Guess :: A Liberal Arts School for the Future

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Educated Guess (EG) is a research and design organization concerned with humanity's relationship to machines, images, and cities. Conceived in 2018 as a "liberal arts school for everyday people", Educated Guess garnered attention initially through this public lecture series. Serving over 45,000 huma… read more

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Deciding Between Graphic Design and Illustration (ft. Jocelyn Tsaih) | Ep. 66

If you're a self-taught designer, the chances are very high that your path began with a torrented copy of Illustrator or Photoshop. And, even if you received formal training at an art school, graphic design is a frequent choice for it's relative practicality and market demand. However, as most people jump into the wonderful world of advertising and art direction, they mind find a different reality than they once imagined as a teenager. 

In order to demystify the grey area between the way projects are handled as an independent illustrator as opposed to a graphic designer, we bring in Jocelyn Tsaih to offer a first-person account of what she's experienced in both worlds. As a Taiwan-born, Shanghai-raised visual artist currently based out of Oakland, California, Jocelyn spent the early days of her career in New York as a graduate of SVA's graphic design program.

Now practicing illustration full-time, Jocelyn has secured work, commissions, jobs, and more from clients including: NYT, Airbnb, Facebook, Stanford Business School, Soho House, Nickelodeon, and more. For roughly an hour, Justin and Jocelyn tackle questions that include: 

  • Knowing whether to seek salary, cash, royalty, or licensing fees for commissioned work
  • Negotiating long-term deals
  • Prioritizing other goals alongside artistic pursuits
  • Developing a world view on what's harmful yet avoidable

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