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Digital HR Leaders with David Green

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In this series, David Green will be speaking to a range of senior HR leaders who are pushing a data-driven and digital HR agenda. There is an increasing need for HR professionals to become more digitally and numerically literate – to acquire the skills necessary to process, produce and leverage digi… read more


73. What are the Benefits of Measuring Employee Skills Data? (Interview with Rick van Echtelt)

By 2025, 50% of all employees will need to be re-skilled, according to the World Economic Forum's future of jobs 2020 research. The same study predicts 97 million new jobs will emerge and 85 million will be displaced by a shift in labour between humans and machines. Most commentators believe that the pandemic has only accelerated this progress. It is not surprising, therefore, that skill availability is high on the CEO’s agenda. Recent research by McKinsey highlights that 79% of CEOs are concerned about skill availability impacting, innovation, cost, quality and growth.

My guest on this week's podcast is Rick Van Echtelt, The Founder and CEO at AG5. Through their software AG5’s mission is simple, to visualise and close skills gaps. Rick and his team do this by essentially providing an accounting system for skills, which aggregates data from multiple systems, maps current skills, tracks progress towards learning new skills and identifies some missing skills needed to future-proof the organisation.

In our conversation, Rick and I discuss:

  • The challenges involved in getting a handle on skills data
  • The value of measuring skills data and how companies should approach it
  • How having a skills based view provides multiple benefits
  • How AG5 helps clients visualise and close skills gaps

This episode is a must listen for anyone interested or involved in creating a workforce planning, learning and recruiting tool. So that is CHROs and anyone in a people analytics, learning, workforce planning, talent acquisition or HR business partner role.

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