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Digital HR Leaders with David Green

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In this series, David Green will be speaking to a range of senior HR leaders who are pushing a data-driven and digital HR agenda. There is an increasing need for HR professionals to become more digitally and numerically literate – to acquire the skills necessary to process, produce and leverage digi… read more


82. Why Companies Need to Interrupt Bias to Truly Create Inclusion (Interview with Joan C. Williams)

This week’s podcast guest is Joan C. Williams, distinguished Law Professor at the University of California, Hastings College of Law, and Director for the Centre of WorkLife Law, and author of a brilliant new book, Bias Interrupted: Creating Inclusion for Real and for Good.

Joan is dedicated to propagating an approach to Diversity and Inclusion that delivers real impact for the business and ensures real change is made.

Throughout this episode, Joan and I discuss:

  • How to connect D&I initiatives to business metrics that matter, with case studies from companies around the world
  • The five patterns of bias that repeatedly emerge across organisations and industries
  • The concept of bias interrupters, what they are and how to use them in everyday scenarios, to reduce the impact of bias
  • The ethical and legal challenges of measuring diversity data and why these challenges are not a good enough excuse for not doing the work

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