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Digital HR Leaders with David Green

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In this series, David Green will be speaking to a range of senior HR leaders who are pushing a data-driven and digital HR agenda. There is an increasing need for HR professionals to become more digitally and numerically literate – to acquire the skills necessary to process, produce and leverage digi… read more


30. How Arup uses Reward Data to Drive Behavioural Change with Katy Gray, Reward Manager

The case for diversity and inclusion in the workplace is compelling not just because it is the right thing to do, but because numerous studies suggest it can drive better business performance too. An increasing number of territories are also introducing legislation that requires companies to publish diversity statistics, but how do you shift from a mindset of compliance to using these types of analysis as a catalyst to drive behavioural change.

Our guest on today's episode is Katy Gray, who looks after Reward at Arup and who has been at the forefront of gender pay gap reporting at the company. She is using these insights to help shift what was a data centric to a people centric exercise.

In our conversation Katy and I discuss:

  • The role of reward in a people focused organisation 
  • The intricacies and challenges involved in gender pay gap reporting
  • Examples of how the insights from gender pay gap reporting has helped drive behavioural change at Arup
  • We also look into the crystal ball and ponder what the future of HR will be in 2025

This episode is a must listen for anyone in an HR leadership or people analytics role as well as HR and business professionals interested in how people data can drive business outcomes and support initiatives around gender and equal pay, as well as the wider diversity and inclusion area.

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