Copper & Heat

10 EpisodesProduced by Copper & Heat

James Beard Award-winning podcast exploring the unspoken rules and traditions of restaurant kitchens through the stories of people that work in them.The restaurant industry is at a point where a lot of groundwork has been laid for change. But in order for change to happen, more conversations about g… read more

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Season 1 Trailer: Be A Girl - Women in Fine Dining Kitchens

July 5th, 2018


Copper & Heat explores the unspoken rules and traditions of the kitchen. Our first season, Be A Girl, follows host Katy Osuna's experience as a …

Be A Girl Episode 1: Brigade

July 17th, 2018


Why are restaurant kitchens organized the way they are? What is a kitchen brigade? What does a typical day of a cook look like? How does someone move up the ranks? And what do women do to work their way up the ranks in …

Be A Girl Episode 2: Oddity

July 17th, 2018


How does traditional masculinity affect the culture of a restaurant kitchen? As a woman, how do you gain respect? Why are women cooks so rare? How do …

Be A Girl Episode 3: Strength

July 31st, 2018


What kind of strength does it take to make it in a kitchen? Why is it that weakness is gendered as female (“stop being a little girl”)? How does the pressure to be tough affect cooks? How do cooks and chefs deal with …

Be A Girl Episode 4: Balance

August 16th, 2018


What kind of pressures do cooks face to always be at work? How do you find balance while working in kitchens? Why is being a mother seen as the biggest barrier for women working in the industry? What options exist for …

Be A Girl Episode 5: Chef

September 10th, 2018


What makes a Chef? What’s the difference between a home cook and a professional one? Why is cooking at home seen as work for women and cooking professionally seen as work for men? How do food media and awards reinforce …

Be a Girl Episode 6: Chef David Kinch

October 16th, 2018


In this episode, Katy sits down with Chef David Kinch, the chef-owner of Manresa Restaurant, a 3-star Michelin restaurant in Los Gatos California. …

Be A Girl Episode 7 :The View From the Kitchen w/ Kim Severson, Chef Reem Assil, Chef Dominique Crenn & Chef Tanya Holland

December 4th, 2018


This episode is an excerpt from The View From The Kitchen panel event hosted by the New York Times and Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in the summer of 2018. Kim Severson, a New York Times correspondent that was on the …

Be A Girl Episode 8 : Changes

March 27th, 2019


This is the last episode in the Be A Girl season. Over the last 7 episodes, we’ve talked about a lot of the challenges facing women working in restaurant kitchens - from the hierarchical structure of the kitchen, to the …

Awards & Imposter Syndrome w/ Geraldine DeRuiter

July 8th, 2019


It’s been a wild few months for us at Copper & Heat! Back in April we won a James Beard Broadcast Media Award and we’re still reeling. In this episode, Katy talks to Geraldine DeRuiter, another James Beard Media …

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