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Boundaryless Conversations Podcast

44 EpisodesProduced by boundarylessWebsite

Boundaryless Conversations Podcast is an ongoing exploration of the future of Platforms & Ecosystems. Here we explore new perspectives about how we organise at scale in a rapidly changing world.From Boundaryless (

44 Episodes | 2020 - 2021

S3 Ep. 2 Annette Dhami and Indy Johar – Dark Matter Labs: rethinking organizing #BeyondTheRules

November 23rd, 2021


Dark Matter Labs is a multidisciplinary design team developing new working methods for system change. Today we’re joined by Indy Johar and Annette …

S3 Ep. 1 Aron Fischer and Jack du Rose – Colony: distributed organizations that actually work

November 9th, 2021


In this first episode of Season 3, we talk to Jack du Rose and Aron Fischer from — an infrastructure for internet native companies and a …

S2 Ep. 21 Tim O’Reilly – How Software is Infusing the World and What it Means

July 12th, 2021


If you’ve heard any of the terms “open source software”, “web 2.0”, or “government as a platform”, you’ll be familiar with today’s guest – Tim …

S2 Ep. 20 Matthew Skelton – On the Convergence between Software and Organizations

June 28th, 2021


It’s undeniable that the role of software in any modern organisation is essential – untangling software from the organization is almost impossible …

S2 Ep. 19 Nathan Schneider – From Platform Coops to Exit to Community

June 14th, 2021


We explore how entrepreneurship within cooperative movements help to drive community ownership in the online economy. We’re excited to be joined by Nathan Schneider, a professor of media studies at the University of …

S2 Ep.18 B. Peters, R. Solomon, S. Kellert: Software and Protocols for a new way of Organizing

May 31st, 2021


In our research at Boundaryless on the concept of the Entrepreneurial Ecosystem Enabling Organisation, aka EEEO or 3EO, we’ve been wondering if a common approach to organizational development is emerging from the …

S2 Ep. 17 Gregory Landua – Platform for Ecological Regeneration

May 17th, 2021


Today we’re joined by co-founder and co-Chief Regeneration Officer of Regen Network, Gregory Landua. Regen Network is a land ecological commons …

S2 Ep.16 Jabe Bloom – Platforming inside and between organizations: differentiation, scale, and scope

May 3rd, 2021


Today’s guest is Jabe Bloom, in conversation with Simone and Emanuele Quintarelli, Boundaryless’ EEEO Micro Enterprise Lead. 


With Jabe, we look …

S2 Ep. 15 Archna Haylock and Steve Helvie – Open Ecosystem Strategies: Catalyzing Change in Industries

April 19th, 2021


Creating Ecosystems around open source standards and the Commons is a challenging task that has been taken strategically by many of the dominating brands of our times - such as Google with Android. 


For this reason, …

S2 Ep. 14 Bill Baue and Ralph Thurm – Bottom-Up and Top-Down Transformation

April 5th, 2021


Today we explore an initiative that looks into transformation and the micro-macro dynamics of organizing from a thresholds and allocations …

S2 Ep. 13 Nora Bateson – Trans-contextual Organizing: Shifting Perceptions

March 22nd, 2021


Today’s guest, Nora Bateson, is a unique thinker that as a company we’ve been following for a while now. From invisible assumptions, to entanglement …

S2 Ep. 12 Aaron Dignan – Leadership and Legitimacy through Consent and Coherence

March 9th, 2021


We often view leadership as such an individual role, but does it have to be? Today’s guest, Aaron Dignan, shares a radically different approach to …

S2 Ep. 11 Simon Wardley – Mapping, Doctrine, and Culture in the Future of Organizing

February 23rd, 2021


Wardley Mapping is a method used to help generate a shared understanding of strategic landscapes and their evolution. From all levels – individual …

S2 Ep. 10 Rita McGrath – Control and Coherence in the New Strategy Playbook

February 9th, 2021


Today we’re joined by a true legend in the space of strategy, innovation and management: Rita Gunther McGrath. Rita is widely recognized as a premier expert on leading innovation and growth during times of uncertainty. …

S2 Ep. 9 Laëtitia Vitaud and Albert Cañigueral – The Present (Future) of Work: Beyond Platforms

January 26th, 2021


Today we have a fabulous duo of Future of Work experts with us, Albert Canigueral and Laetitia Vitaud. We chat about some of the key evolutions in …

S2 Ep. 8 Adrien Nussenbaum – Becoming Anything you want in the Platform Value Chain

January 12th, 2021


In this episode we are speaking Adrien Nussenbaum, co-founder and U.S. CEO of Mirakl, a global leader in online marketplace solutions. Since …

S2 Ep. 7 Robyn Scott – Enabling an Ecosystem of Civil Servants in the Age of Platforms

December 29th, 2020


Today we’re talking to Robyn Scott, co-founder and CEO of Apolitical, a global learning network for public servants. The Apolitical Academy, …

S2 Ep. 6 Juho Makkonen – Democratizing the Platform Economy through Marketplace as a Service

December 15th, 2020


Today we have the great pleasure of speaking to Juho Makkonen, CEO and co-founder of Sharetribe – and a common friend from the heydays of the onset of the sharing economy. 


Sharetribe builds software that helps …

S2 Ep. 5 Dave Snowden – Building Scalable Organizations that can Deal with Uncertainty

December 1st, 2020


Today we’re talking to Professor Dave Snowden, the founder and Chief Scientific Officer at Cognitive Edge and Director of the Cynefin Centre Wales. His internationally acclaimed work covers government and industry, and …

S2 Ep. 4 B. Joseph Pine II – Experience Platforms: Staging Experiences through an Ecosystem

November 17th, 2020


In this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking to Joe Pine, an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and management advisor.

Joe has addressed the World Economic Forum in Davos, the original TED conference in …

S2 Ep. 3 Peter C. Evans – Platform Talent: Jobs & Skills for the Age of Networks

November 3rd, 2020


In this episode, we speak to Dr Peter C. Evans, Managing Partner at the Platform Strategy Institute and co-founder of the advisory firm Enterprise …

S2 Ep. 2 Alicia Hennig - Embeddedness: Exploring the Roots of the Eastern idea of Organizing

October 19th, 2020


In this episode we have the pleasure of introducing a very interesting academic voice, Alicia Hennig, Associate Professor of Business Ethics.  

Her research focuses on Chinese philosophy and its application in …

S2 Ep. 1 Sangeet Paul Choudary - Re-bundling the Firm around Problems to Be Solved

October 5th, 2020


In this episode, we’re excited to have a legend from the platform thinking space Sangeet Paul Choudary, where we explore his fascinating journey from …

A Beacon for Future Explorations - Wrapping up Season 1 with Bill Fischer and Lisa Gansky

July 20th, 2020


In this episode, we have our two dear guests Lisa Gansky — the eternal entrepreneur, great thinker and our long term advisor — and Bill Fischer, professor at IMD in Lausanne with whom we’ve developed the very first

Ep. 18 John Bunch - Building Complex Organizations through simple constraints: Zappos

July 13th, 2020


In this episode, we have a conversation with John Bunch, Lead Organizational Designer and Adviser to the CEO Tony Hsieh at Zappos. John joined in 2009 as a Software Developer and moved on to lead the Public …

Ep. 17 Jeremiah Owyang - The Future of Platforms in the midst of Silicon Valley's moral reckoning

July 6th, 2020


Today we’re speaking to Jeremiah Owyang, founding partner of the San Francisco based research firm Kaleido Insights, where he focuses on how …

Ep.16 Marshall Van Alstyne and Geoffrey Parker - Human Value as the North Star: Regulating pervasive platforms

June 29th, 2020


In this episode we have two leading platform thinkers on the show: Marshall Van Alstyne, Questrom Chair Professor at Boston University and Geoffrey …

Ep.15 Nicolas Colin - The Entrepreneurial Age: Networks and a fragmenting world

June 22nd, 2020


In this episode, we’re speaking to Nicolas Colin, co-founder & director of The Family, a pan-European investment firm founded in 2013 and …

Ep. 14 Joe Norman - Organizations as Architectures for Complexity

June 15th, 2020


In this episode, we’re having a boundaryless conversation with Joe Norman, a complex systems scientist researching systemic risk and precaution in large-scale systems. Joe explores strategies for uncertainty, complex …

Ep.13 Martin Revees - Remaking the Case for Strategy in an Interdependent World

June 8th, 2020


In this episode, Simone Cicero is again joined by a special co-host and former guest on the podcast — Bill Fischer — Professor of Innovation …

Ep 12. Alex Osterwalder - Unleashing thoughtful Innovation at Scale

June 1st, 2020


In this episode, Simone Cicero is joined by a special co-host and former guest on the podcast - Bill Fischer - Professor of Innovation Management at …

Ep. 11 Joost Minnar - Tackling the Fundamental Problems of Organising at Scale

May 25th, 2020


In this episode, we talk to Joost Minnaar, co-founder of the blog in 2015. Joost travels the world researching progressive organisations, blogs about the discoveries he makes and advises on …

Ep. 10 Indy Johar - Redrawing the Human Development thesis for the 21st Century

May 18th, 2020


In this boundaryless conversation we speak with Indy Johar, architect and co-founder of Project 00 and most recently Dark Matter Labs (see his full …

Ep. 09 Daniel Wahl - Organizing in Nested Systems: Re-regionalisation, Landscape and Global Solidarity

May 11th, 2020


In our conversation with Daniel, we talk about the interplays between technology and landscape, between the virtual and the analogue world, and we …

Checkpoint episode with Lisa Gansky - Ecosystems: between the "no more" and the "not yet"

May 7th, 2020


This is a “checkpoint” episode where we talk to Lisa about what we’ve been discovering so far in the research for the Whitepaper and get her valuable …

Ep. 08 Stowe Boyd - Ecosystemic Organizations and the Future of Work

May 4th, 2020


Stowe describes his calling as “the ecology of work and the anthropology of the future”. He’s founder of Work Futures, where he explores critical …

Ep. 07 Bill Fischer - Leadership as Architecting: Transforming Organisations into Thriving Ecosystems

April 27th, 2020


In this Boundaryless Conversation, we talk with Bill Fischer, Professor of Innovation Management at IMD Business School in Lausanne. Bill co-founded …

Ep. 06 Michel Bauwens - Commons-based peer production at the edge of a chaotic transition

April 20th, 2020


In this with Michel Bauwens, we explore both the Epistemological and Political/Regulatory layers of the transition from the “old” to the “new” ways …

Ep. 05 Ana Andjelic - Brands in transition: the sociology of ecosystems

April 13th, 2020


In this episode, we talk to Ana Andjelic, a Strategy Executive and Doctor of Sociology working on business strategy, marketing, and organizational …

Ep. 04 John Robb - Beyond markets: sense-making and organising, in a world of open networks

April 5th, 2020


In this episode, we have a Boundaryless Conversation with John Robb, the owner and principal analyst for the monthly Global Guerrillas Report, that …

Ep. 03 Tomas Diez - From Fab Cities to Fab Citizens: remaking organising

April 5th, 2020


In this episode, we have a boundaryless conversation with Tomas Diez, a Venezuelan Urbanist specialized in digital fabrication and its implications on the future of cities and society. He is the co-founder and director …

Ep. 02 James Currier - Unveiling the math behind society and what to do about it

March 30th, 2020


In this episode, we have a boundaryless conversation with James Currier one of Silicon Valley’s foremost experts in growth and network effects. James is a four-time CEO of VC backed companies and a pioneer of …

Ep. 01 Arthur Brock - Rewiring the technology to rewire the way we organise

March 30th, 2020


In this episode, we have a boundaryless conversation with Arthur Brock, chief architect of Holochain. Holochain is an alternative to blockchain for …

Opening episode: Exploring the future of organising at scale with Boundaryless conversations

March 30th, 2020


This episode frames the Boundaryless Conversation podcast: Simone Cicero, the original creator of the Platform Design Toolkit, and co-host and …

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