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Art of Boring

117 EpisodesProduced by Mawer Investment Management Ltd.Website

Listen as Mawer Investment Management Ltd. takes a deeper dive into the investment philosophy and strategies that have helped put the odds in their clients’ favour for over 45 years.

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Playing the plan: Mawer U.S. mid cap equity portfolio | EP117

September 7th, 2022

32:31

What makes the U.S. mid cap investable universe unique, some key learnings since the strategy’s launch, and how inflation can be a “positive” for wealth-creating companies.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global small cap portfolio | EP116

August 24th, 2022

20:54

Why small caps may zig while large caps zag, the advantage of businesses that sell scarce skills (CBIZ, Insperity, RS Group), and why eyewear retail is harder than it…looks.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s international equity portfolio | EP115

August 3rd, 2022

28:39

The impacts of inflation, interest rates, and sharp currency movements on the portfolio, and the importance of leaning in to process and keeping a …

An energy-fuelled debate: Are renewables actually becoming cheaper? | EP114

July 20th, 2022

38:08

The team debates the thesis that renewables are becoming “cheaper” than traditional energy sources, unpacks why the ultimate cost to the end consumer …

Quarterly Update | Q2 2022 | EP113

July 13th, 2022

24:59

Inflation, interest rates, the valuation correction, bias creep, and “sticking to our knitting.” A full dive into Q2.

How to make (good) decisions | EP112

June 29th, 2022

38:27

CIO Paul Moroz unpacks the foundational components to better decision making for investing, business, and life.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian bond portfolio | EP111

June 22nd, 2022

21:15

Lead Portfolio Manager, Crista Caughlin, on what’s happening in bond markets, a look at inflation and interest rates, and the key scenarios we’re …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP110

June 8th, 2022

31:07

Opportunities and risks we’re seeing in energy, rail, and financials; why we exited Shopify; and a few team learnings.

Deep dive: DevOps | EP109

May 25th, 2022

37:13

What DevOps is and why it’s a theme with investment potential.

Creativity vs. Frameworks: How to build a better decision-making environment | EP108

May 11th, 2022

29:31

On building a “global investment franchise” and balancing the trade-offs between creativity, efficiency, and process to build a consistent environment for better investment decisions.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s emerging markets equity portfolio | EP107

April 27th, 2022

21:23

Russia, the potential parallels to Taiwan and China, and macro to micro portfolio considerations in an inflationary environment.

Quarterly Update | Q1 2022 | EP106

April 20th, 2022

23:16

iTunes: CIO Paul Moroz shares his take on what’s happening in the markets, some of the underlying factors behind recent performance, and a reminder …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s U.S. equity portfolio | EP105

April 13th, 2022

22:12

Portfolio Managers Grayson Witcher and Colin Wong share market observations, industries where fundamentals are shifting, and a few recent additions …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s EAFE large cap portfolio | EP104

March 16th, 2022

39:37

Jim Hall (chair, head of our risk management process, and portfolio manager) shares his overall observations on prevailing macroeconomic risks—and …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global equity portfolio | EP103

February 23rd, 2022

28:10

How we achieve balance in the portfolio, manage hubris, and have accounted for inflation risk in our investment process.

Post-mortem: Learnings from 2021 | EP102

February 9th, 2022

41:07

Chief Investment Officer, Paul Moroz, reflects on notable learnings from 2021 and how time and experience still clarify the most in investing—and …

The quest for “holy compounders” | EP101

January 26th, 2022

43:10

Our systematic assessment framework to narrow the probabilities in analysing fast-growing technology companies in an effort to improve our odds of …

Quarterly update | Q4 2021 | EP100

January 19th, 2022

20:00

The major themes of Q4 and a look ahead to 2022.

Deep dive: Inflation | EP99

January 5th, 2022

32:54

Inflation cycles throughout history, Keynes vs. monetarists, and why the enemy is…still us.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian bond portfolio | EP98

December 8th, 2021

18:44

Global debt, China’s credit cycle, shifting monetary and fiscal policy objectives, and the three scenarios we are thinking about this year

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP97

November 24th, 2021

29:40

Impacts of higher inflation and interest rates and the benefits of an integrated research team.

Quarterly update | Q3 2021 | EP96

October 19th, 2021

22:13

Inflation risk, slowing global growth, and the un-globalization trend—a review of Q3.

Introducing the Mawer U.S. mid cap equity strategy | EP95

September 29th, 2021

40:01

Why we launched—our interest and history in U.S. mid cap stocks—potential benefits of the asset class, and a few holding examples.

Prepare instead of predict: Integrating an engineering discipline to improve risk management | EP94

September 22nd, 2021

22:06

John Kay’s “simplicity, modularity, redundancy” risk framework elements and our ongoing risk management process improvements.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global small cap portfolio | EP93

September 8th, 2021

23:13

Mispricing patterns we’re seeing in the market; where we’re finding an edge; improving our management team assessment techniques.

Intensifying regulatory risk in China | EP92

August 23rd, 2021

20:57

A real time risk management discussion addressing the increasing regulatory pressures currently impacting a wide range of businesses in China.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian small cap portfolio | EP91

August 11th, 2021

30:55

The tremendous IPO activity led by tech companies; our evaluation process for a company prior to it becoming public; and recent matrix meeting …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s emerging markets equity portfolio | EP90

July 28th, 2021

22:05

Philip Fisher’s continuous relevance; determining fair value ranges for blitzscalers; and potentially overlooked opportunities in Russia and Kazakhstan.

Quarterly update | Q2 2021 | EP89

July 14th, 2021

20:13

A review of the quarter: the high-level themes have continued.

1/Ntelligence™: Our take on portfolio construction | EP88

July 7th, 2021

27:17

CIO Paul Moroz walks us through his “best practices” portfolio construction checklist.

Why investors really need to understand the mechanics of Bitcoin | EP87

June 16th, 2021

49:35

Opening the Pandora’s box of Bitcoin, societal trust, and why investors might not, but need to, fully understand the technology.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s U.S. equity portfolio | EP86

May 19th, 2021

35:01

“Making the macro micro” around demand trends, inflation concerns, valuations, and earnings. We discuss Comcast, Visa, Dollar General, Alphabet, and …

Deep dive: The pharmaceutical industry | EP85

May 5th, 2021

37:49

 

 

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A close look at our research methods to understand trends, opportunities, and challenges in the pharmaceutical industry.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP84

April 21st, 2021

23:35

How thinking like a deer in the forest (situational awareness) and other risk management process tinkering has helped the team. In addition, thoughts on the potential CP Rail and Kansas City Southern deal and Telus …

Quarterly update | Q1 2021 | EP83

March 31st, 2021

32:13

One year since lockdown: CIO Paul Moroz summarizes the major market themes of the past four quarters and how it has (and hasn’t) affected our process …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s EAFE large cap portfolio | EP82

March 24th, 2021

20:19

How the EAFE LC team is improving the overall process and a deeper look at holdings DSV, Kuehne+Nagel, and Anglo American.

 

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global equity portfolio | EP81

February 24th, 2021

20:39

Deputy CIO Christian Deckart discusses market performance in a “story of three quarters” and some new holdings we added to the portfolio—Admiral …

Post-mortem: Learnings from 2020 | EP80

February 16th, 2021

25:27

CIO Paul Moroz discusses some of the Research team’s 2020 learnings—highlights include the challenge of using the market as a feedback system and the …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s international equity portfolio | EP79

January 27th, 2021

28:08

Lead portfolio manager, David Ragan, discusses how the portfolio did over the past year, why some companies were more resilient than others, and what …

Quarterly update | Q4 2020 | EP78

January 20th, 2021

21:39

A look back on the major investment themes of 2020, and a look ahead at some of the risks and opportunities on our radar.

Holiday Special: Mawer's Annual Poem | EP77

December 18th, 2020

4:56

Our three hosts narrate Mawer's timely variation of "'Twas the week before Christmas"—an annual review of the year. Stay for the bloopers!

 

Game on: A deep-dive into the gaming industry | EP76

December 9th, 2020

48:11

Front-of-mind investment learnings from equity analysts Justin Anderson and Joshua Samuel on the dynamic, evolving gaming universe.

Nuances to portfolio construction | EP75

November 25th, 2020

33:12

Mawer U.S. Equity Portfolio Manager, Grayson Witcher, takes us through how the team approaches portfolio construction; assessing themes, offsets, and …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP74

October 21st, 2020

31:04

A deep dive into three new holdings: Stella-Jones, Ritchie Bros., and Granite REIT, and what we mean when we say “winning by not losing.”

Quarterly update | Q3 2020 | EP73

October 12th, 2020

17:36

A review of the quarter: the ongoing impacts of COVID-19 on economic activity, continuing fiscal and monetary stimulus, and the run-up to the U.S. …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian bond portfolio | EP72

September 30th, 2020

19:20

Crista Caughlin, lead portfolio manager of Mawer’s fixed income strategies, discusses potential impacts of increasing global debt in a low interest …

Playing the plan: Mawer's global equity portfolio | EP71

September 9th, 2020

25:28

CIO Paul Moroz discusses resilience, global monetary policy, and current themes such as TikTok and a potential “technological iron curtain.”

Playing the plan: Mawer's emerging markets equity portfolio | EP70

August 19th, 2020

21:36

Building resiliency while finding opportunities in emerging markets.

Investment potential within the payments industry | EP69

August 12th, 2020

36:41

A deep dive into the themes, fundamentals, and opportunity sets in the payments industry.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian small cap portfolio | EP68

July 29th, 2020

22:41

The impacts, risks, and potential opportunities from the COVID-19 crisis fallout on the Canadian small cap universe, and why valuations are …

Quarterly update | Q2 2020 | EP67

July 15th, 2020

20:17

A review of the quarter: a significant rebound in markets, the potential impacts of continuous monetary and fiscal stimulus, and deglobalization.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP66

July 3rd, 2020

27:51

Why the current market environment “feels like 2030 is happening in 2020,” our perspective on the recent market recovery, and more.

Capitalizing on cloud migration | EP65

June 17th, 2020

26:44

The implications of cloud migration for enterprises, investors, and business models.

Introducing the new Mawer EAFE large cap strategy | EP64

June 2nd, 2020

25:44

Why the strategy was created, how it was launched, and some holding examples.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global small cap portfolio | EP63

May 21st, 2020

24:53

Deputy CIO Christian Deckart discusses natural contradictions in the portfolio and how the team plays “intellectual best ball.”

What the FAANG is going on? | EP62

May 13th, 2020

27:18

Exploring the why behind the FAANG’s outsized stock returns and the overall challenges of valuating tech companies.

CIO update | April 29, 2020 | EP61

April 29th, 2020

25:30

CIO Paul Moroz weighs in on recent movements in the market and how we may have “crossed the Rubicon” with respect to direct fiscal stimulus and are …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s U.S. equity portfolio | EP60

April 15th, 2020

29:53

Lead portfolio manager, Grayson Witcher, discusses how the team is positioning the portfolio amidst the current uncertainty.

Quarterly update | Q1 2020 | EP59

April 9th, 2020

25:21

A review of the quarter: how we’re positioning our portfolios and what investors should keep in mind during these volatile times.

Q&A with CIO: The top questions being asked right now | EP58

April 2nd, 2020

24:11

CIO, Paul Moroz, answers clients’ most frequently asked questions during these extraordinary times.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP57

March 25th, 2020

22:49

What we’re doing to mitigate potential sharp edges in the portfolio, as well as position for medium and long-term risks and opportunities.

Mawer market update March 20, 2020 | EP56

March 20th, 2020

22:41

Fractals, raining money, and making decisions under uncertainty. CIO Paul Moroz continues the discussion of the current economic environment.

Mawer market update March 2020 | EP55

March 13th, 2020

19:44

CIO Paul Moroz discusses our strategy and thoughts during this time of significant market volatility. 

The reverse roadshow | EP54

March 11th, 2020

36:57

Why our team locks themselves in a room for a week to speak with over 30 management teams: to drive focus and attention on the companies that are going to have the best chance of meeting our investment criteria.

Playing the plan: Mawer's international equity portfolio | EP53

March 4th, 2020

31:49

Lead portfolio manager, David Ragan, on how the team strategizes in the wake of a market shake-up (e.g., coronavirus). Also included: updates on …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global equity portfolio | EP52

February 5th, 2020

29:05

CIO Paul Moroz discusses how we’ve approach building resilient global portfolios over the years, the new “Cold War” between China and the U.S. and …

Negative interest rates in an unprecedented time| EP51

January 22nd, 2020

32:59

This episode, our CIO Paul Moroz considers the potential themes and catalysts that are driving negative interest rates, what that may mean for …

Quarterly update | Q4 2019 | EP50

January 15th, 2020

19:14

Featuring insights from the fourth quarter from Balanced and Global Balanced Fund co-manager and Asset Mix Chair, Greg Peterson.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP49

December 4th, 2019

27:01

Director of Research and Canadian equity lead manager, Vijay Viswanathan, discusses risks and opportunities in Canada, the cannabis industry’s value chain, and potential transformations to the food retailer business …

Technical debt | EP48

November 20th, 2019

33:37

This episode, we interview our Head of Information Security and Infrastructure, Dwight Pratt, and Equity Analyst, Karan Phadke, on the ramifications of technical debt to businesses and investors.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s emerging markets equity portfolio | EP47

November 6th, 2019

23:21

Lead portfolio manager, Peter Lampert, discusses the current environment for emerging markets and what opportunities and challenges we’re seeing for …

Sustainable Development Goals: What they are and how Canada measures up | EP46

October 16th, 2019

21:07

Vice President of the Community Foundations of Canada, JP Bervoets, explains the UN’s sustainable development goals—and how individuals and corporations can get on board to make a difference.

Quarterly update | 3Q 2019 | EP45

October 14th, 2019

15:29

Featuring insights from the third quarter from Balanced and Global Balanced Fund co-manager and Asset Mix Chair, Greg Peterson.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global small cap portfolio | EP44

October 2nd, 2019

22:37

Equity analyst, John Wilson, shares how the team approaches separating signal from noise, why defensive business models make for a resilient …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s U.S. equity portfolio | EP43

September 4th, 2019

44:20

U.S. equity co-manager, Colin Wong, discusses the big picture backdrop (interest rates, U.S.-China trade war) and then dives deep into the investment …

Making a difference: Impact investing | EP42

August 21st, 2019

46:01

Calgary Foundation Board and Impact Investing Committee Chair, Bob Gibson, and Director, Investments, Lauren Frosst, discuss the Foundation’s …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s international equity portfolio | EP41

August 7th, 2019

23:43

Lead portfolio manager, David Ragan, discusses some big picture risks (Brexit and U.S.-China trade wars) and then dives deep into the investment …

Lessons from 33 years of investing | EP40

July 24th, 2019

39:47

Investing legend Martin Ferguson, pioneer of the award-winning Mawer Canadian small-cap strategy shares the lessons he learned over his 33-year career.

Trader talk: Every BEEP matters | EP39

July 18th, 2019

33:28

Equity trader, Jeff Wilson, delves into the in-house “B-E-E-P” framework the trading team has built: Best Execution, Education, and Process. “To achieve the most consistent amount of positive outcomes, you can't …

Quarterly update | 2Q 2019 | EP38

July 11th, 2019

14:44

Featuring insights from the second quarter from Balanced and Global Balanced Fund co-manager and Asset Mix Chair, Greg Peterson.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global equity portfolio | EP37

June 12th, 2019

14:56

Deputy CIO, Christian Deckart, discusses everything from big picture risks to company specifics on this global equity portfolio episode.

Mawer Insight: Q&A with CIO | EP36

May 29th, 2019

35:20

CIO, Paul Moroz, answers clients’ questions about the current economic environment and how Mawer is positioning its portfolios.

Deep dive: The U.S. healthcare industry | EP35

May 22nd, 2019

19:05

Equity analyst and previous biomedical researcher, Amit Shah, discusses the healthcare industry in the U.S.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian small cap portfolio | EP34

May 8th, 2019

25:02

Lead manager Jeff Mo discusses the psychology that drove the Canadian economy over the past 6 months, the correlation between Canadian and emerging …

Quarterly update | 1Q 2019 | EP33

April 9th, 2019

17:25

Featuring insights from the first quarter from Balanced and Global Balanced Fund co-manager and Asset Mix Chair, Greg Peterson.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP32

April 3rd, 2019

40:43

Director of Research and Canadian equity lead manager Vijay Viswanathan discusses the overall Canadian economy, cozy oligopolies, and the amount of …

Decentralized structures: a competitive advantage | EP31

March 13th, 2019

25:11

Equity analyst John Wilson discusses how decentralized organizations can maintain agility and operational excellence as a defense to the negative aspects of change.

 

Playing the plan: Mawer's emerging markets equity portfolio | EP30

March 6th, 2019

18:29

Lead portfolio manager, Peter Lampert, discusses the investment thesis behind two Emerging Markets banks, the risk of shadow banking in China, …

Good travels: The many business models found in the travel industry | EP29

February 20th, 2019

24:08

On this episode, institutional portfolio manager, Rob Campbell, explores a few different types of business models in the travel industry and their …

Defining intrinsic value in a stochastic world | EP28

February 6th, 2019

26:27

Equity analyst, Justin Anderson, walks us through the definition of intrinsic value, how we model it, and some of the ways it might be influenced by …

Trader Talk | EP27

January 23rd, 2019

32:26

Equity traders Merv Mendes and Peter Dmytruk discuss the evolution of the trading desk at Mawer, the difference between quantitative and qualitative …

Quarterly update | 4Q 2018 | EP26

January 14th, 2019

21:01

Featuring insights from the fourth quarter from Balanced and Global Balanced Fund co-manager and Asset Mix Chair, Greg Peterson.

Brick by brick - constructing a resilient global balanced portfolio starts from the bottom up | EP25

January 9th, 2019

19:12

CIO, Paul Moroz, walks listeners through the reasons why going global is optimal in today’s environment. He discusses the paradigm shift from a …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s U.S. equity portfolio | EP24

December 17th, 2018

32:39

U.S. portfolio manager, Grayson Witcher, discusses the sustainability of U.S. earnings, some of the major position changes over the past two years, …

On leadership and decision-making: lessons from our president | EP23

December 5th, 2018

27:11

In light of our president Michael Mezei’s upcoming retirement, he sits down to reflect on the many lessons in leadership he’s gained over the course of his career. 

Managing investments for foundations and not-for-profits | EP22

November 28th, 2018

33:07

Institutional Portfolio Manager, Andrew Johnson, discusses key investment issues foundations and not-for-profits are facing in today's environment.

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global small cap portfolio | EP21

November 21st, 2018

24:46

Deputy CIO, Christian Deckart, discusses global small-cap portfolio holdings to demonstrate the small-cap life cycle, how M&As present a …

The art of the management team interview | EP20

November 7th, 2018

27:24

Global small cap equity analyst, Karan Phadke, discusses his experience interviewing management teams. He reveals why assessing a management team’s strength is so important to our investment philosophy, the …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s international equity portfolio | EP19

October 24th, 2018

34:35

David Ragan, co-manager of Mawer’s international equity strategies, discusses the current economic environment, what changes have been made to the …

Quarterly update | 3Q 2018 | EP18

October 10th, 2018

18:58

Featuring third quarter insights from Greg Peterson, portfolio manager of Mawer’s balanced and global balanced strategies. Greg provides perspective …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s global balanced portfolio | EP17

September 26th, 2018

27:00

CIO and co-manager, Paul Moroz, discusses how to build the most resilient global portfolio possible and reveals Mawer’s four building blocks to risk …

Language Matters in investing | EP16

September 12th, 2018

33:12

Institutional portfolio manager, Rob Campbell, explains the concept of suitcase words: words into which people attribute—or pack—multiple meanings. …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Emerging Markets Equity portfolio | EP15

August 29th, 2018

19:00

Lead portfolio manager, Peter Lampert, discusses the current investing environment for emerging markets, the importance of resilience, and reviews …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s U.S. equity portfolio | EP14

August 15th, 2018

31:18

Co-manager of Mawer’s U.S. equity portfolio, Grayson Witcher, discusses the impact of rising corporate debt levels, the importance of relationship …

Playing the plan: Mawer’s Canadian equity portfolio | EP13

August 8th, 2018

28:50

Director of Research and Canadian equity co-manager, Vijay Viswanathan, discusses potential trade war impacts to the portfolio, Canada’s opportunity …

Investing with your eyes: CIO insights from South America | EP12

July 25th, 2018

29:55

CIO Paul Moroz continues to travel the world doing fundamental research for the global equity and the global small cap strategies. This episode …

Quarterly update | 2Q 2018 | EP11

July 12th, 2018

24:09

This episode features insights from the past quarter by Greg Peterson, Portfolio Manager of Mawer’s balanced and global balanced strategies. Greg …

Scuttlebutt and its dramatic effect on long-term investing | John Wilson | EP10

July 4th, 2018

19:55

John Wilson, analyst on Mawer’s global small cap strategy, discusses scuttlebutt’s valued place in Mawer’s investment process and its competitive advantage for long-term investors. Learn how just two phone calls can …

Underweight: our take on Japan | EP09

June 20th, 2018

21:34

David Ragan, portfolio manager of Mawer’s international equity strategies, discusses his—perhaps surprising—views on investing in Japan. While Dave …

Getting in alignment: Why investors need to pay attention to executive compensation | EP08

June 7th, 2018

35:43

Jeff Mo, portfolio manager of Mawer’s Canadian small cap strategies, discusses the significant importance of executive compensation to long-term …

Playing the plan: Mawer's equity philosophy in action| EP07

May 23rd, 2018

35:17

Deputy CIO, Christian Deckart, takes listeners on a journey through Mawer’s equity investment philosophy by walking through the investment thesis of …

The competitive advantage of high performing teams | EP06

May 9th, 2018

32:24

Vijay Viswanathan, Mawer’s Director of Research, on the key characteristics of high performing investment teams. The discussion includes why …

Supersize me: Province of Alberta goes large and issues first time benchmark euro-denominated bond | EP05

April 25th, 2018

15:30

James Redpath (JR), Mawer fixed Income portfolio manager, answers why the Alberta government issued a benchmark euro-denominated bond—four to …

Quarterly Update | 1Q 2018 | EP04

April 11th, 2018

18:25

This episode features insights from the past quarter (1Q18) by Greg Peterson, Portfolio Manager of Mawer’s Balanced and Global Balanced strategies. …

Moneyball and Automation: Introducing “The Lab” | Justin Anderson | EP03

April 4th, 2018

32:01

Features the investment insights of Justin Anderson, Canadian equity analyst and leader of Mawer’s zone of experimentation known as The Lab. The Lab …

China observations | Peter Lampert | EP02

March 21st, 2018

30:21

Features the investment insights of Peter Lampert, Mawer Emerging Markets and International Equity portfolio manager, from his research trip to …

India observations | Paul Moroz | EP01

February 16th, 2018

32:00

Features the investment insights of Mawer’s Deputy Chief Investment Officer, Paul Moroz, from his research trip to India. Paul is also co-manager of …

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