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Above Ground Podcast

102 EpisodesProduced by Will Foley, Tim ParentWebsite

Every Wednesday, Will Foley and TPP have open, raw conversations on mental health, mental illness and everything on its spectrum. Stomping the stigma’s one conversation at a time. Two not so ordinary dudes sharing their stories, opinions and tools to be well, be safe and be Above.

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Do No Harm w/Garra Lloyd-Lester

May 12th, 2021


"In waiting for the right words, we might be silent awhile", says Garra Lloyd-Lester, about starting the conversation on suicide. You don't need to …

21st Century Boys

May 5th, 2021


Hard to believe this is our one hundredth episode. When we started this in the June of '19, I just wanted to have the first seven in the can. I figure if we build that momentum I will find it easy to bring the best of …

Forgive Yourself First

April 28th, 2021


Forgiveness is the releasing of anger and resentment. A vital importance in propelling you forward past traumas, grief or victimization. It is beneficial to your healing and mental health. It can enhance optimism and …

The Joshua Tree w/Jeff Brisbin

April 21st, 2021


"We don't get drunk in the moment or get waterlogged in the ocean, of it." says Jeff Brisbin about his son Josh. Jeff's family lost Josh ten years ago to suicide. Josh lives on in their memory and under the Joshua Tree. …

Shadow Days

April 14th, 2021


It sucks to be honest and it hurts to be real. Shadow Days are never behind us. They are quietly waiting under the water like a great white, waiting to attack it’s next meal and leaving our psyche in tatters on the …

Symptoms of the Universe w/Hannah Stainer

April 7th, 2021


Everyone experiences the Symptoms of the Universe. Hannah Stainer realized that depression is an electrifying enemy, but standing up for yourself is swimming into a magic ocean. 

Hannah is the creator of Psykhe Mental …

Reluctant Hero

March 31st, 2021


When you’re tired of having to be strong  for strength’s sake and feeling overwhelmed, we can become reluctant to hear the calling of the hero in our story. 


Heroes don’t all wear capes and come from every where. …

Uncomfortably Numb

March 24th, 2021


Silence only strengthens stigma, but Rob Leathen  is here to dowse that fire with a hose full of truth and experience. He speaks openly and honestly …

The Space Between

March 17th, 2021


It's not always about you. Holding space is not judging, fixing, or adding your experience. The Space Between is making it about someone else, …


March 17th, 2021


Are you ready for real conversations about mental wellness, mental illness and everything in between? We are Will & TPP! Welcome to Above Ground Podcast.

A weekly conversation between two not so normal dudes, …

Falling Back to See What Kelly Found

March 10th, 2021


Victoria, B.C.'s Kelly Conrad is a blogger, BeachBody enthusiast and complex PTSD 'thriver'. The universe dumped the trash bin of her life, forcing her to pick up and examine every piece. We hear her story of overcoming …

Hold the Line

March 3rd, 2021


This week Will & TPP hold the line and discuss boundaries. Boundaries are lines that are created by you for you. Guidelines or limits we create …

She Has Been to Venus and Back

February 24th, 2021


'Tori', our guest this week. has lost a daughter, only after a few weeks of life. Survived cancer. With her son, humor, community and love of life helping her tread and fight her way back to shore. 

 Tori talks openly …

The Sound of Silence

February 17th, 2021


The art of active listening is open, direct attention to what a speaker is saying. Guiding the conversation, opening it up for connection. Stop, pause, listen. Then breathe and respond. The needs will be revealed, in …

Am I Safe with Russell Kennedy the Anxiety MD

February 10th, 2021


“Feel it, to heal it. You can’t just talk about it!” Says             Russell Kennedy, MD. The Anxiety MD, has lots of credentials, street cred, incite and a sense of humor. He shares it in his new book,  The Anxiety Rx

A Sense of Purpose

February 3rd, 2021


Resilience is the tool to overcome life’s undertow. Building the muscle to tread and stay above takes repetition and patience. If you’re reading …

In the Blood with Valéry Brosseau

January 27th, 2021


Strength and struggle form the plasma, while pain and perseverance hold the platelets. For Toronto, Ontario based, Valéry Brosseau it won’t wash out …

Self Destruction Blues

January 20th, 2021


 Old records are often warped and will not play properly on the turntable of the limbic jukebox. Do we set ourselves up for failure by letting old …

Shut Up and Listen with Sean Wellington

January 13th, 2021


Sean Wellington has learned that the best thing we can do for others is to...SHUT UP and LISTEN! As a crisis counselor, podcaster, storyteller and trainer, Sean has heard many stories of survival, strength and loss. 

What's In the Sauce?

January 6th, 2021


Validation is getting in touch with someones emotions. Acknowledgement is hearing the words without putting any emotional value in the macaroni. What's in the sauce? We discover that making sauce takes a lot of …

Epic. It is.

December 30th, 2020


A pad of butter will not cover an entire loaf of bread. Spreading yourself too thin leads to a ride on the overwhelming color wheel. Getting off the …

It's Okay, Let's Talk

December 23rd, 2020


People don't see the fight when someone dies by suicide, they only see the ending. Depression is the voice that says you're not good enough. Anxiety is the voice that says everyone else can see it too. Suicide is …

Eyes of a Stranger

December 16th, 2020


Into the eyes of a stranger, the mirror never lies. Masks only hold our true authenticity hostage and we cannot always afford the ransom. In the game …

Right Now

December 9th, 2020


Anxiety disorders are the most common mental illness in the States. They affect over forty million adults per year. Highly treatable, yet so many …

Rock Bottom

December 2nd, 2020


In the darkness it's hard to tell where you're at. Rock Bottom is as much a state of mind as it is a place of despair. There is comfort in our dark places. Our friend, Jordan joins us this week for a #realconvo about …

Do it for Jonny

November 25th, 2020


Debbie and Rich Straight share the story of losing their youngest  of 3 children to suicide.  Jonathan Richard Straight died at age 20. He never showed any signs of depression or anxiety until 2 months before he died. …


November 18th, 2020


Persistent depressive disorder, also called dysthymia (dis-THIE-me-uh), is a continuous long-term (chronic) form of depression. Described to us as the 'blue screen of death'. The concept was coined by Robert Spitzer as …

Nobody Puts Katie in a Corner

November 11th, 2020


We lose 22 Vets a day to suicide. The numbers don't lie. Our #RealConvo today is with,Katie Fisher-McVeigh, a retired Air Force Veteran with five years active duty and fifteen as a Reservist. She was also the Board …


November 4th, 2020


Blueprints are technical drawings used for architecture. We need schematics to build our best selves. Our structures (physical, mental, emotional, spiritual) need a diagram in order to stay ABOVE

You will notice that …

Killed By Death

October 28th, 2020


What is assisted dying?  The Netherlands could probably explain it better, they were the first to legalize it in 2002. Many debates have been had …

Pushing Forward Back

October 21st, 2020


Matthew Shapiro is the Associate Director of Public Affairs for NAMI NYS. Mental health fell onto him not the other way around. From Ritalin to …

Rage for (DIS)order

October 14th, 2020


What happens when two individuals, who are also 1 in 5, talk about rage? Listen to Will & Tim rage for (dis)order, the mic, the podium and the space to have their opinions be heard. Tempers were a flare as the raw …

Grounded On Glen St. w/Yoga Kayla

October 7th, 2020


Kayla Kraft (Yoga Kayla) is the creator of Grounded on Glen St. A place to pause, connect with your body, nourish your soul and calm your mind. The …

Toxic Waltz

September 30th, 2020


 We can find ourselves in the "Toxic Waltz" if we deny too much that we can explain. Denial is a byproduct of toxic positivity. The state of being overly positive at the expense of your emotions. Telling yourself you …

All Shook Up

September 23rd, 2020


The floor is lava and the bridge is eggshells when you have a mentally ill parent. When it's the only normal you have, you normalize the abnormal. We …

Communication Breakdown

September 16th, 2020


Communication is an art we have lost. In the age of one minute sound bytes, magic pills and willful ignorance. We have become uninterested in others …

A New Version of Groundskeeping

September 9th, 2020


When our foundation is weak and cracked, it can lead to emotional storms, physical torment and mental collapse. Trauma is the leading earthquake that …

Mind to Make a New Start with Tearle Ashby

September 2nd, 2020


From Fear of Flying to making a difference in the urban school landscape. Artists and musicians often make the best social workers.Tearle Ashby, (ask …

You Down with P.T.G.?!

August 26th, 2020


"You down with P.T.G? Yea, you know me! Wait, what?!? W.T.F. is P.T.G.? Post Traumatic Growth is the idea that we can be fundamentally changed in a …

Under the Mask of Happening

August 19th, 2020


When we think of masks we often think of Halloween and not our emotions or persona. So many of us are hiding our true face. Behind a false covering of ourselves. So many negative emotions fill in the spaces between the …

Domesticated Animals

August 12th, 2020


Somewhere between childhood and adulting our dreams, hopes and fantasies, are replaced by dread, fear, and anger. Adding up to a despair often left …

He Won't Back Down

August 5th, 2020


Jordan won't back down from life. It takes strength, solutions and stamina. A member of some distinguished clubs, like the club of divorced parents, …

How Much Grief Can You Take

July 29th, 2020


Grief takes over the entire body. We can spend many years grieving and not realize we are grieving. Grief is an emotional response to loss. We have …

Strength in the Struggle

July 22nd, 2020


From addiction and despair to founder of a non-profit and helper of many. This week we have Jacque Ecuyer. He is the founder of, a life coach and he has been to hell and back. 

He considers himself a phoenix …

The Wheels of the Struggle Bus Go Round N' Round

July 15th, 2020


Has the struggle bus been making stops at your house? Do you find yourself heading out to catch it, or are you waving as it drives by? We all find ourselves at the corner of Grey St and the end of the world.

This week …

Not Just Another Self-Love Song

July 8th, 2020


Self-love is an often misunderstood experience. We could be full of a sort of self absorbed confidence. But, it is in our darkness that we learn if …

Rattlesnake Snake

July 1st, 2020


The shedding process won't begin until an item cracks us wide open. A rattlesnake doesn't get its rattle until the first layer is gone. With every layer the snake leaves behind, that snake becomes more of its true self. …

Black Eyed Todd

June 24th, 2020


Being on both sides of a counselor's desk provides a perspective of services rendered like no other. It's a glimpse behind the Wizard's curtain. It's a trip wire waiting to set off an explosion of relapse. A slow burn, …


June 17th, 2020


We all have a story to tell. Some say it with fabric or color. Others with numbers, motion, words. Then, there are the sound makers. Will Foley is a …

Falling On Black Days

June 10th, 2020


Tim sheds his leathers and opens the door of emotion. This is his autobiography, Falling On Black Days.


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Can't Always Get, What Your Craving Wants

June 3rd, 2020


The Four Noble Truths of Buddhism are 1)the truth of suffering, 2) the cause of suffering, 3)the cessation of suffering, 4)the path to the cessation of suffering.

Buddhism speaks to me differently than the other world …

Hope Makes Your Garden Grow

May 27th, 2020


This week's guest is Sandra Goldmeer. She is the Area Director of the Capital Region NY Chapter of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. In …

Bless This Black Label Society

May 20th, 2020


Amanda Matteson is an MSW, PhD student, researcher and a Veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom (2008-2009) from the NY Army National Guard. Her main …

Four Horsemen of PTSD

May 13th, 2020


PTSD is a condition triggered by experiencing or witnessing a terrifying event. Flashbacks, nightmares, severe anxiety, as well as uncontrollable …

Rise Above

May 6th, 2020


Covid-19 is proving how fragile our health care system is. A federal government blatantly not responding. States locked and broke with huge deficits. Hospitals over capacity with a workforce faced with immeasurable pain …

Meditate and Destroy...Your Misconceptions

April 29th, 2020


This week we are talking meditation. You know that thing you say you should start doing, but when you try, your mind is flooded with to dos, to nots, …

Lockdown 2020

April 22nd, 2020


This week Tim and Will discuss some stuff they are digging during this new normal. We can find strength in books, songs, movies, shows or anything that helps you get through. Escape at your risk.


So much time home. …

The Distancing...

April 15th, 2020


As we navigate the world of social distancing and get used to a new view of the world and ourselves, we have a great awakening going on. It can be terrifying and feel lonely. The Distancing... doesn't have to. 

This …

I Dub Thee Unforgiven...Or Do i

April 8th, 2020


Gandhi is quoted with saying that the weak can never forgive, forgiveness is an attribute of the strong. Carrying the weight of holding on to past …

Trip at the Brain

April 1st, 2020


This week we are talking about the brain. Brainwaves to be exact. We talk about one of my favorite tools, binaural beats. Brainwave entrainment …

Disease, Disease {STOP} Spreading the Disease

March 25th, 2020


Pandemics, natural disasters and grief affect our mental health in profound ways. Here in the great state of N.Y. we have been put on pause, because of Covid-19, or what some call the coronavirus. An invisible virus …

Fade to Black

March 18th, 2020


Children's mental health issues are real. They need diagnosis, treatment, help and love. We need to be proactive and present. Folks listen up.....

Chaos AD

March 11th, 2020


Chaos (A)fter (D)iagnosis is our topic for this week. What happens after you experience a set back, relapse or just have a real shit day. We all have coping strategies, some are better than others, yet we all have them. …

We all got...Psychological Factors

March 4th, 2020


We all got Psychological factors...yes we do.  Takes one to know one...That is what your head sounds like. Well, come join us for a #RealConvo


This …

Biology of it All

February 26th, 2020


This week the guys continue their discussion on the causes of mental illness. The biology of it all. 

Symphony of Destruction

February 19th, 2020


This week we continue our discussion about the causes of mental illness. We stomp the grapes of the biology of mental illness today and listen to the …

Between the Wheels

February 12th, 2020


Will and Tim are taking you on a ride through the environmental factors of what causes our mental illnesses, disorders and problems. It all starts on the inside and oozes out. Everything is related and affects the other.

So Many Enemies Within

February 5th, 2020


This week we talk about the many enemies within and the causes of mental illness. Be well, be safe, be Above

Crossroad Blues

January 29th, 2020


Upon this journey of a thousand miles, we call life; we will come upon many crossroads. We must take one path or choose another. Some we feel called …

Ignore at Your Peril

January 22nd, 2020


Ignoring your mental health at best may be a survival mechanism. At worst it can be a death sentence. If you are listening to us, congratulations, …

So Far, So Good, So What

January 15th, 2020


So far we have 33 weeks and counting. Today Tim and I dive into the shallow end and pick are faves up until now. Just to help you along if you are new to the neighborhood.

So Far, So Good So What is my fave Megadeth …

The Sky isn't Falling it's Just a Panic Attack

January 8th, 2020


Rapid heart beat, sweating, shallow breathing, tightness in your chest. Sounds like a serious health event. Could just be a panic attack. I know, …

Another Year...another family drama

January 1st, 2020


Happy New Year...This is the first of 2020. We're spitting about family and the knots that need untying. Often in need of replacing.

Mental Health crisis and diagnosis can often tear families up and apart. Having a …

Song Remains the Same,Same

December 25th, 2019


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The Great Holiday Suicide Swindle

December 18th, 2019


The Great Holiday Suicide Swindle, is a myth buster episode. In a time when  media perpetuate debunked ideas as fact and the general public is too …

We are the Sultans of STOMP

December 11th, 2019


Stigma; as defined by Merriam-Webster states that it is a mark of shame or discredit. I find those words disturbing. The definition is brutal enough without faces staring and mouths shouting. So many of us, fight the …

No Victim of Changes

December 4th, 2019


One of my fave self-cultivation gurus, Jim Rohn, said;" those living with a victim mentality never get to experience the joy of accomplishment …


November 27th, 2019


When you are anxious, depressed, angry and even worse, suicidal; the last thing you are thinking about is being grateful. Yet gratitude can help us …


November 20th, 2019


"Feet sometimes on solid ground, sometimes at the edge", vociferates Tim Mcllrath from Rise Against. Their song Survive is the basis of this episode.

Who's Coming With Me?!

November 13th, 2019


Show Me Your Vulnerability...

O.k. it wasn't always about the money was it? Yep, you guessed it. Will and Tim discuss who is who's 'Ambassador of …

Emotional Rescue

November 6th, 2019


Emotional Rescue-

This week the boys will be steadfast and true in their discussion on emotions and how to live with the damn things. Buckle up and …

Just When You Thought It Was Safe...F.E.A.R. 2

October 30th, 2019


This week the boys dive back into the ocean known as F.E.A.R. (Fraudulent Emotional Antiquated Reaction) and surface with a booty of discussion. 

Harvester of Sorrow -Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)

October 23rd, 2019


It is estimated that nearly ten million people live with Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)

In this part of the lower 48, how can you not get a bit …

Putting It All Together

October 16th, 2019


This week we finish our DBT series. That's right Dialectical Behavior Therapy, has reached crescendo and is ready to be added to your utility belt. 

The final, Putting It All Together; will be our discussion on how to …

Distress Tolerance pt 2

October 9th, 2019


This week Above Ground Podcast concludes it's series on Dialectical Behavior Therapy. 

Distress Tolerance pt 1

October 2nd, 2019


This week Will and Tim tackle the last module of Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). This special two part episode is for the final module; Distress …

Emotional Regulation

September 25th, 2019


This week on Above Ground Podcast we take on the third DBT skill;

Emotional Regulation

We can all use a way to regulate emotions during times of …

Taking Back Your Mind

September 18th, 2019


This week in the third episode of our series on Dialectical Behavior Therapy(DBT) Will and Tim banter about taking back your mind. Using the …

Interpersonal Effectiveness

September 11th, 2019


This week on AGP is our first module of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy(DBT); Will and Tim discuss Interpersonal Effectiveness.

This is the second …

DBT_Dialectical Behavior Therapy Overview

September 4th, 2019


This week on Above Ground Podcast Will and Tim start their self care September with an overview of Dialectical Behavior Therapy. This form of therapy was developed by Marsha Linehan, to originally help people with …

Taming the Topsy Turvy

August 28th, 2019


This week Will and Tim discuss finding calm  when you feel like a pair of jeans in the spin cycle. Taming the Topsy Turvy can be very difficult when …

Padawan Ramone

August 21st, 2019


This week on Above Ground Podcast, Will and Tim talk tips about how you too can be a Jedi and Dee Dee Ramone's famous 1-2-3-4 helps lead the way.



August 14th, 2019


This week Tim and Will talk about fear. What it is and what that affect can be on your life.




August 7th, 2019




We're not talking about your connection to your phone, your dog or your aunt Tilda. We aren't talking about your amp connection or the affinity you have for double kick drumming. 


No, we're jivin' about …

Down in a Hole _ 2

July 31st, 2019


Will and Tim continue their conversation about depression and the hole you must often climb out. Remember you can save your self.

Be well, be safe, …

Down In a Hole

July 24th, 2019


This week is the first part of a two part cast about depression, entitled;Down in a Hole. Inspired by the Alice in Chains track. Will and Tim discuss …

Unmasking the Enemy

July 17th, 2019


This week on AGP Will and Tim discuss the monster inside ourselves and ways to help spread some garlic and drive a stake through the heart of your vampire brain. It's not sucking blood , it's sucking your life.

Thanks …

Guard Your Thoughts...Save You They Will

July 3rd, 2019


Like Leonidas leading the brave 300 against Xerxes, we must wage war against negative emotions, negative self talk and sometimes just negative people.

Will and Tim throw some arrows of truth around the studio to give …

Get Involved

June 26th, 2019


Will and Tim talk about how and why they got involved with mental health advocacy and how others can follow suit.

If you want to get involved with …

Shed Some Light

June 19th, 2019


On this new episode of Above Ground Podcast Will and Tim talk about shedding light on our darkness. Will quotes some lyrics from Shinedown's song "Shed Some Light" from the 2005 album "Us and Them". 

Shinedown is a …

Embrace the Suck

June 10th, 2019


On the first full length episode Will and Tim discuss embracing the suck. Embracing our emotions and all the feels.

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