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A Tiny Revolution

181 EpisodesProduced by Kevin GarciaWebsite

Because all revolutions begin as conversations between friends. Join digital pastor and soul coach Kevin Garcia for a conversation that actually matters. Covering the intersections of spirit, sexuality, gender, and justice, Kevin curates convos with the brightest and most incredible humans that you … read more

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#181: Doing Nothing is No Longer an Option, w/ Jenny Booth Potter

November 26th, 2022


Jenny's here to get white people together for racial justice.

Jenny Booth Potter is a creative producer, storyteller, and co-host of The Next Question, a web series about expanding our imagination for racial justice. She …

#180: to be Valiant, w/ J.Crum

November 17th, 2022


If you don't already follow J.Crum on social media, get on his TikTok immediately, and then immediately download his new album, VALIANT available all …

#179: The Language of Grief, w/ Dante Stewart

October 28th, 2022

Danté Stewart is an award-winning writer, speaker and author of Shoutin' In The Fire: An American Epistle. Named by Georgia Writers Association as "Georgia Writer of the Year” 2022 (Memoir); by The Center for American …

#178: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism, w/ Brad Onishi

October 6th, 2022


The host of Straight White American Jesus, author and professor, Brad Onishi joins us to talk about what the hell is going on America right now, the threat of American evangelicals, Christian nationalism, and what we …

#177: Dead Dad Club, w/ Garrison Hayes

September 29th, 2022


Trigger warning: grab a fucking tissue box. Garrison Hayes joins me to talk about his work as a maker on TikTok, as well as his own history with church shit, and we also start talking about the grief of losing our …

#176: The Contemplative Tarot, w/ Brittany Muller

September 15th, 2022


Mysitc Catholicism? Tarot and christianity? Brittany Muller is here to talk about it all and her new book The Contemplative Tarot: a Christian Guide …

#175: The God Who Riots, w/ Damon Garcia

August 25th, 2022


Damon Garcia (he/him) is a writer, video essayist, and public theologian for a liberative Christianity. His work is inspired by liberation theology, …

#174: We Need To Talk, w/ Malynda Hale

August 19th, 2022


Malynda Hale is the host of We Need To Talk. We talk faith, deconstruction, entertainment, whiteness, y mas.

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#173: Christian Nationalism 101 w/Tim Whitaker

August 3rd, 2022


Let's ask the tough questions. Like WTF America?

This is part one in the series on Christian nationalism, the current status of Church and state, and …

#172: Homebrewed Faith, w/ Tripp Fuller

July 15th, 2022


Tripp Fuller and me shoot the shit and get weird.

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#171: On "Affirming" Queer Folks, w/ Propaganda

July 5th, 2022


Y'all A convo that I've wanted to have for a long time. @Prophiphop joins me to talk about his journey in music, within Christian music industry stuff, and we also talk about how and when he became affirming of queer …

#170: Yass Jesus! w/ Daniel Franzese + Azariah Southworth

June 7th, 2022


Both grew up evanglical. Both were very afraid to be themselves. Both are now creating space to let other queer folks know that no one can take God …

#169: Anti-Excellence, w/ Nadia Bolz-Weber

May 17th, 2022


Nadia Bolz-Weber is back and we get into some yummy stuff around what spiritual community could look like in this brave new world. Among other …

#168: Magical Black Girl, w/ Evelyn from The Internets

April 26th, 2022


Y'all, Evelyn is someone who if you ain't know, you need to. Follow her work at

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#167: The Magic of Our Bodies, w/ Audrey Assad

April 11th, 2022


CW: in this episode Audrey and Kevin talk a little about their relationship with working out, fitness, and body shame stuff. So just listen and take care of yourself. (It's not a long part of the convo, so you can skip …

#166: God Is a Black Woman, w/ Dr. Christena Cleveland

March 28th, 2022


God is a Black woman. No we will not be taking questions.

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#165: All The White Friends I Couldn't Keep, w/ Andre Henry

March 21st, 2022


Follow Andre @theAndreHenry, and go to to get the book, All The White Friends I Couldn't Keep, Available March 22, 2022.

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#164: Hellsong, w/ Janice Lagata

March 4th, 2022


All tea. All shade. With one of Hillsongs former top leaders turned exvangelical podcaster and content maker, Janice Lagata.

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#163: This Here Flesh, w/ Cole Arthur Riley

February 24th, 2022


The creator of Black Liturgies and author of the debut This Here Flesh: Spirituality, Liberation, and the Stories that Make Us. In the convo we talk about practice, creating space for Black bodies in lament and liturgy. …

#162: The Naked Pastor, w/ David Hayward

December 23rd, 2021


You've probably seen his cartoons before you've seen his face. but! regardless, you're gonna love this.

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#161: The Wisdom of Your Body, w/ Hillary McBride, PhD

November 25th, 2021


Your friend and mine! Hillary McBride is back on the pod! She's sharing about her new book, the Wisdom of Your Body, and we both talk about how our bodies have healed, how she deals with chronic pain issues, what it is …

#160: The Skeletons in Liberty's Closet, w/ Lucas Wilson

November 16th, 2021


Luke Wilson is a dope ass human working towards his PhD and currently working towards a post doc on the queer oral history of America's largest Evangelical university, Liberty University. Today we talk about surviving …

#159: Fierce Love, w/ Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis

November 9th, 2021


What does a universalist have to say about the love of Christ for our fucked up world? A lot.

Join me and my mama Jacqui Lewis. She is incredible.

#158: Red Lip Theology, w/ Candice Marie Benbow

November 4th, 2021


Multi-genre theologian, essayist, and bad ass, Candice Marie Benbow, joins to talk about her story, her faith, calling on ancestors at the same time …

#157: A Gay Christian Coming of Age Story, w/ Stacey Chomiak

October 22nd, 2021


The first illustrated queer christian memoir. And maybe the first illustrated memoir I have ever heard of?

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#156: The Honest Enneagram, w/Sarajane Case

October 6th, 2021


Author, internet human, bad ass, and a friend o mine, Sarajane Case of @enneagramandcoffee joins me to share about her journey over pandemic, how her view of the enneagram has shifted since the start of her work, and …

#155: Purity Culture, PTSD, and Parenting w/ Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers

September 14th, 2021


Dr. Tina is an author, psychotherapist, professor, speaker, and bad ass who has been talking about the damage of purity culture since 2006. her …

#154: Religion Shouldn't Hurt, w/ Troy Moore-Heart

September 9th, 2021


What does healing look like for queer folk on the otherside of religious trauma? Today, Troy Moore-Heart of @ReligionShouldntHurt Instagram comes to …

#153: Transitioning Into Pleasure, w/ Rae McDaniel

August 31st, 2021


Queer sex therapist and transition coach, Rae McDaniel, get into the deep end of what it is to transition with pleasure, with more ease. It's so much fun. Join us!

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#152: Finding God Outside The Church

August 24th, 2021


Listen you can take the girl out of pentecostalism but sometimes she finds her soul sibling and acts a mess on the main.

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#151: Actually Healing, w/ Joél Leon

August 11th, 2021


Joél Leon is my twitter crush but also someone I highly respect. A story teller and healer, a poet and musician, and someone who make shit primarily …

#149: Jesus as Friend, w/ Diana Butler Bass

July 21st, 2021


I fucking love Diana. With all my heart. She's incredible. She's luscious and has delicious language. In this convo we talk about her new book, we talk about our love of Jesus and how we move beyond and in our faith. …

#148: Deconstructing Miss Canada, w/ Tara Teng

July 15th, 2021


She had two deconstructions, that's how bad ass she is. Embodiment coach, former Miss Canada, and a bisexual biracial poly badass, Tara Teng joins …

#147: I Wanna Be Your Friend, w/ Corey Killgannon

June 28th, 2021


This is episode 6 in our special series with Beloved Arise for pride month!

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#146: For Anyone Who Believes, w/ TOW'RS

June 23rd, 2021


Excited to have the geniuses behind the album of SERENADE!

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#145: 2 Spirit Fire, w/Jay iiwaa Mercado

June 16th, 2021


Part 4 of our Pride series with Beloved Arise, featuring the artists on the new album, Serenade!

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#145: God Delights in Queerness, w/ Ella Kat Sharp

June 11th, 2021


Part 3 of our limited series with Beloved Arise, featuring Ella K Sharp, one of the artists from the Album, SERENADE! Available wherever you stream your music. CLICK HERE to listen.

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#144: You Don't Have to Be Okay, w/ Brian Falduto

June 2nd, 2021


What was it like to go from School of Rock to nothing, to learning to find your way back to yourself? Brian Falduto joins to talk about his journey, …

#143: A Dose of My Own Divinity, w/ Blake Mundell

June 1st, 2021


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#142: Learning to Love Myself, w/ Heaven Carter Williams

May 24th, 2021


For Pride Month I am partnering with Beloved Arise, the only LGBTQ youth group for queer youth of faith. June 5th, BA is releasing SERENADE: Songs …

#141 You CAN Talk To God Like That, w/ Abby Norman

May 18th, 2021


Preacher, teacher, and literaly neighbor and friend of mine, Abby Norman joins me IRL! We got to sit down at my coworking space in ATL to talk about her new book, You CAN Talk To God Like That, out everywhere Tuesday …

#140: Yes, Daddy w/ Jonathan Parks-Ramage

May 12th, 2021


Author writer weirdo and all around good human Jonathan Parks-Ramage joins me today to talk about his new book, about being queer and a person of …

#139: WTF is Deconstruction? w/ Phil Drysdale

May 4th, 2021


ya know we've never outright talked about "deconstruction" as a topic on this show because... well we were doing it before the term was relevant. But! it doesn't hurt to have some data and language about it, and! It …

#138: Adult Sex Ed, w/ Erica Smith, M.Ed

April 28th, 2021


If you grew up Christian, you probably had some form of purity culture in the water you were drinking. So many of us as adult with religious trauma …

#137: Queer Mom Energy, w/ Rachel Kurtz

April 20th, 2021


Rachel Kurtz is a musician, a momma, an incredible force, and one hell of a woman. In this episode, we talk about her discovering her queerness later in life, and how she experiences her faith coming from Christian …

#136: #ChurchToo, w/ Emily Joy Allison

April 13th, 2021


Emily Joy Allison is a bisexual icon. A poet, writer, yoga teacher and now AUTHOR of the book #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to …

#135: After the Band, w/ John Steingard

April 8th, 2021


If you didn't listen to the last episode, go back to the last one and get into it.

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#134: Emergent Properties, pt 1. w/ Jon Steingard

April 6th, 2021


Jon Steingard was the lead singer of Christian rock band, Hawk Nelson, for a long ass time. When he finally made the announcement that he actually had a shift in faith, the usual things happened. In this first part of a …

#133: F*ck Shame, w/ Coach Yeamah

March 30th, 2021


Christian sexuality coach and badass b*tch, Coach Yeamah Logan joins me to talk about her work, helping queer Christians overcome their shame and reconnect with God. It's super churchy and yummy and I hope you enjoy it.

#132: All Along You Were Blooming, w/ Morgan Harper Nichols

March 24th, 2021


Artist, poet, and reluctantly admittant writer Morgan Harper Nichols joins me on ATR to talk about her shit she's been learning thru Covid …

#131: The Author of Confusion, w/ Vi La Bianca

March 10th, 2021


Athiest cyborg cat.

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#130: Champagne is My Religion, w/ Lyvonne Proverbs Briggs

February 16th, 2021

The Emmy Award-winning digital pastor, sex-positive, womanist, spiritualist preacher is here with us to give us the GOOD word.  Connect with Lyvonne across social media @lyvonnep and at GET YOUR TICKETS FOR …

#129: The Deconstructionist's Playbook

February 3rd, 2021


Crystal Cheatham is back back back again! The creator of Our Bible App and the editor of the new an upcoming anthology, THE DECONSTRUCTIONIST …

#128: Decolonizing Our Faith w/ Jo Luehmann

January 25th, 2021


Lady pastors don't fuck around.

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#127: Queer. Spiritual. Questioning. w/ Micah J Murray (LIVE AT QCF 2021)

January 11th, 2021


We did it big last week with our call on the QCF Podcast Stage. Such a lovely time. Thank you to QCF for having me, and thank you to my friend Micah …

#126: There are Angels in Your Angles, w/ Kyle Gray

December 22nd, 2020


A conversation from WAY back at the beginning of pandemic and lockdown with world renown spiritual teacher, Kyle Gray. We goof off a lot, but when am I not just kikiing with the girls. 

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#125: Unchurchable, w/ Kit Kennedy

December 3rd, 2020


Kit and I go back a few years, when her then-husband became a Patreon supporter, and then connected me with his wife who was an editor and ghost writer. She suggested I publish on my own. I said UR CRAZY. But she was …

#124: Gay at Liberty University 2: Electric Boogaloo, w/ Luke Wilson

November 24th, 2020


Luke Wilson is a PhD candidate in Toronto and he went to LIBERTY UNIVERSITY. The unhappiest place on earth, especially if you are a queer. 

Me and Luke get into the dirt of going to Liberty, and ask what it takes for us …

#123: Rage Against the Minivan, w/ Kristen Howerton

November 18th, 2020


Back with the BLM marches really ramped up earlier this year, Kristen Howerton joined me on the pod to share bout her journey on deconstruction. She shares her journey around pregnancy and how shallow Christian faith …

#122: Black Coffee w/ White Friends. w/ Marcie Alvis-Walker

November 9th, 2020


The creator of Black Coffee w/White Friends, Marcie Alvis-Walker is here and we jump right into what this election means for people of faith, black …

#121: IRL w/ Chris Stedman

October 23rd, 2020


Fate has brought us back together at last. Chris Stedman Joins me to talk about his newest book, IRL:Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our …

#120: Dirty Rotten Church Kids, w/ Josh Link + Adrian Gibbs

October 7th, 2020


Your two fave ex youth pastors are here to talk about their shit! The hosts of Dirty Rotten Church Kids, a podcast about navigating live outside of …

#119: u still Christian? y/n w/ Micah J Murray

September 30th, 2020


Micah has known me since I was straight. So like... a long time. 

In the episode we talk about WHY SEMINNARY especially if like... what is God? Is God real? Something that drives both me and Micah is trying to figure out …

#118: The Christianity We Haven't Tried Yet, w/ Meggan Watterson

September 24th, 2020


Feminist theologian and author, Meggan Watterson, joins me to talk all things Mary Magdalene, her journey as a non-traditional feminist theologian in …

#117: If Words Could Heal the Wounds, w/ Ben Grace

September 15th, 2020


Aussie born singer-songwriter and all-around good bloke, Ben Grace joins me to talk about his newest album and some theological stuff that literally …

#116- r u a Believr?

September 2nd, 2020


My friends Adam and Brandon, co-founders and creators of the Believr app, join me to talk about queer faith, dating, sex, and this dope queer …

#115: Shatterproof Faith w/ Julianna Zobrist

August 18th, 2020

TW: This episode contains conversations on the topic of sexual assault, including talking about events that happened to our guest. Please be certain …

#114: On Moving from Side B, w/ Joe Miner

July 27th, 2020


Many of us who come from Christian world became side B / celibate queer Christians before we were able to fully affirm me. Joe Miner began his …

#113: When Beans Met Sami, w/ Sami & Brit Barron

July 21st, 2020



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#112: #DoBetterYoungLife, w/ Kent Thomas

July 17th, 2020


Young Life is one of the largest parachurch high school ministry organizations in the US. And like all of them, they have an anti-LGBTQ policy when …

#111: Your Body is A Person, w/ Jamie Lee Finch

July 6th, 2020


How the hell did it take this long to get us together? Who can say! but today, Jamie Lee Finch, the intuitive soul coach, healer, sex witch, and …

#110: Revolutionary Love in Revolutionary Times, w/ Rozella Haydée White

July 1st, 2020


Hello we back at it. And this one is about to take your ass to church and then some. 

Connect with Rozella's work @Rozellahw on the socials, and at

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#109: Do u believe in life after Clarity? w/ George Mekhail

May 19th, 2020


Another beloved friend joins me on the pod to talk about two things he's super passionate about: clarity and bitcoin. (And yes they absolutely …

#103: DeRay McKesson

February 5th, 2020


Activist, author, and cutie pa-tootie DeRay McKesson joins me to talk about his work, life, and his

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#102: Queer Relation-Tips, LIVE @ QCF

January 20th, 2020


Wherein I get read for filth by my friend, Isaac Archuleta. He's a psychotherapist and host of the upcoming podcast, Queer Relation-tips. It gets …

Introducing my new podcast: THOTS & PRAYERS

January 16th, 2020


Here's something new and delicious for you, my new show, Thots & Prayers. Join me and my friends each week as we talk shit, talk sex, talk spirit, and talk self-love. I think you'll love it.

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December 29th, 2019


Daniel Bass and Kevin debut the first episode of Thots & Prayer! We're talking about dating in your 30s, some bad dates, and maybe some good advice. Join us, laugh with us.


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#101: Beyond Shame w/ Matthias Roberts

December 26th, 2019


LETS TALK ABOUT SEX WITH MATTHIAS! And how to create a better sex life on our own terms.

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#100: Live at WGF'19 w/ Science Mike & Rev Sarah Heath

September 19th, 2019


We talked about everything and we talked about nothing and it was so good. Enjoy.


Find out more about the MASTERCLASS. Starts Sept 22. Only 12 spots. Don't wait.

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#99: Queer and Catholic, w/ Pat+Patrick of Vine & Fig Co.

September 13th, 2019


Well blessed be Mary! Who the hell knew you could be queer and Catholic? ;) Pat and Patrick of Vine & Fig Co. join the podcast to talk about …

#98: 90 Seconds of Truth (Part 2), w/ Matthias Roberts

August 28th, 2019


This is part two of #90secondsoftruth, the storytelling campaign started by Matthias Roberts and I. Share your stories on social media using the hashtag.

Be sure to connect with Matthias at, …

#97: How to Human w/ Sam Lamott

July 26th, 2019


Sam Lamott is an internet human I was so curious about and I am so glad that he and I got to connect. He's got lovely deep thoughts and a deeply caring heart. I think you're going to love this incredible human.


#96: the Diviner Life w/ Michael Anthony

July 19th, 2019


CLICK HERE to learn more about how online therapy can change your life today.

Let's get woo woo, y'all. My friend Michael Anthony of The Diviner Life sit down to discuss our spiritual journeys, and where God has brought …

#95: Fat & Queer, w/ Antonia Terrazas

June 13th, 2019


My internet humans are the greatest. Today, Antonia joins me on the podcast to share her experience as a fat, bisexual woman in the world. She got her Masters at Duke Divinity, is a chaplain, and literally is one of the …

#94: Into the Cosmos! w/Bianca Mabute-Louie

May 23rd, 2019


2019 Pride Collection is live on! Shop today while supplies last.


Bianca and I met at TRP Chicago a few years ago and I knew …

Woman of Valor: remembering Rachel Held Evans

May 9th, 2019

We remember the Woman of Valor, Rachel Held Evans. Rest in peace, babe. Support this podcast at —

#93: Becoming Darin McKenna

May 2nd, 2019


Today on the pod, my dear bb Darin McKenna joins me to talk about... really his journey these past few years. Coming out, finishing grad school, …

#92:Innovative Love Coalition, w/ Kyle Gattison

April 25th, 2019

I am so excited to share with you this new project I am working on Innovative Love Coalition. Our first album, God Our Ally, is going to be the first project like it, bringing together openly Queer worship artists and …

#91: Holy Spirit Blackout, w/JJ Warren

April 18th, 2019

Remember back during the UMC General Conference when that gay lay person got up and gave the most tearful and impassioned speach on the floor? That …

#90: The Invitation of Pain, w/ Hillary McBride

April 10th, 2019

Therapist, writer, speaker, co-host of the Liturgists Podcast, and literally an angel on earth, Hillary McBride joins me today to talk about body and …

#89: Queer in Latin America w/ La Mechuda

March 28th, 2019

Carla Sofia, aka La Mechuda, is a Lesbian Latina Christian making queer Christian content en Español! (Sounds familiar, right?) In this conversation …

#88: How to Come Out as an LGBTQ Christian, w/ Amber Cantorna

March 20th, 2019

Amber Cantorna is back back back again with her newest book, Unashamed: a coming out guide for LGBTQ Christians. We talk about the last book, the new book, and just navigating the waters of coming out while Queer and …

#87: Everyday Magic w/Christian Berry

March 6th, 2019

Christian Berry is the full-time crystal daddy of Everyday Magic, a small business in Durham, NC curating crystals and other magic working items. …

#86: A Love Letter to My Friends in the UMC

February 27th, 2019

For all of you who are hurting, I love you. I'm here for you. And I'm standing with you. Support this podcast at —

#85: Young, Black & Gifted in the ELCA, w/Lenny Duncan

February 20th, 2019

Lenny Duncan (he/him) is a follower of Jesus Christ and is in a passionate love affair with Grace. March 2018 he was issued a call to serve the …

#84- Parenting Unfundamentalist, w/ Cindy Brandt

February 13th, 2019

Cindy didn't grow up in a religious household, but did attend a school for missionary kids in Taiwan where she converted, and spent most of her …

#83: Coming Out Later In Life (and all that shit), w/ Matt Nightingale

February 6th, 2019

Matt Nightingale is an educator, musician, speaker, writer and spiritual director living and working in the North San Francisco Bay Area. He is a …

#82: Live from QCF! Part 2, w/ GUNGOR

January 30th, 2019

You know that feel when your favorite people are also incredibly gifted humans and they also happen to be ur frandzzz? That's who Lisa and Michael Gungor are to me. So weird. So lovely. So perfectly human. We talk about …

#81: LIVE from QCF! Pt. 1 feat. The Best Humans

January 25th, 2019

This is part 1 of my LIVE show at QCF this past Jan. In this episode we are just cutting up and having fun. We start off with never have i ever and …

#80: Making Sex Shameless, w/ Nadia Bolz-Weber

December 31st, 2018

Nadia Bolz-Weber is a writer, speaker, pastor, and all around bad ass woman. A critically acclaimed, NYT best selling author and founder of the House …

#79: Losing My Religion, w/ Melissa Greene

December 19th, 2018

Melissa Greene is a creative, a musician, a spiritual leader, and one dope ass human living in Nashville and helping lead a community named Imaginarium. In this conversation, we dive into what life is like in …

#78: Jared Byas is Gonna Fix my Life

December 5th, 2018

Jared Byas of The Bible for Normal People joins me today to basically fix my life because obviously my ass needs it. ... Connect with Jared across social media @JByas, at and listen to his podcast with Pete …

#77: Confessions of a Funeral Director, w/ Caleb Wilde

November 28th, 2018

DEATH AND SEX AND EUCHARIST! Like... does it get any better? Caleb Wilde is a fifth-generation funeral director who has the freshest take on death I have ever encountered. Literally, this is one of my favorite …

#76: An Evolving Faith, w/Jennifer Knapp

November 14th, 2018

Jennifer Knapp is a Grammy-nominated artist, writer, speaker, activist, and all-around badass woman. She was CCM royalty for 5ever before her hiatus …

#75 Boy Erased, w/ Garrard Conley

November 10th, 2018

Garrard Conley is the author of the best selling book, Boy Erased, now a major motion picture starring Nicole Kidman, Nicolas Cage, and Troye Sivan …

#74: Is Jesus Cool with Polyamory?w/Brian G. Murphy

October 12th, 2018

Polyamory and non-monogamy is a conversation that isn't happening in Christian circles and is seen by many as taboo. But it's a conversation we …

#73: To Shake the Sleeping Self, w/ Jedidiah Jenkins

October 3rd, 2018

Jedidiah Jenkins was living a life he didn't want, and so on his 30th bday, he quit his job, hopped on a bike and road it from Oregon to Patagonia on …

#72: Femme, w/Corey Camperchioli

September 26th, 2018

Corey Camperchioli is an actor, writer, and self identitfied femme living in NYC. He's currently making the rounds with his short film, "FEMME," and …

#71: On Changing the World, w/ Matthias Roberts

September 13th, 2018

Y'all... Matthias Roberts, in addition to being an incredible writer, podcaster, speaker, therapist, and all around good human, is one of my dear friends. Creatively he's been a co-conspirator. Socially, he's been a …

#70: Pastor & Survivor, w/ Chrissie Reeves-Pendergrass

September 5th, 2018

Trigger warning: This episode contains conversation focusing on sexual assault and rape in Christian contexts. Listener discretion is …

#69: Translations & Homosexuals, w/Kathy Baldock

August 22nd, 2018

Kathy Baldock is a speaker, educator, mother, and fierce advocate for LGBTQ inclusion in the Church. Her book, "Walking the Bridgeless Canyon" has …

#68: Queerness + Mental Health, w/ Cassie McCarty Green

August 15th, 2018

I've said it once, I'll say it a billion times over, mental health is sexy. Today, therapist Cassie McCarty Green joins me to share her story of how she came to work exclusively with LGBTQ clients, the growth she's seen …

#67: Joel Hollier is such a Fucking Christian

August 8th, 2018

Y'all for real, there are moments when I realize when like... folks are a better Christian than me, not that it's a game to win, but seriously... …

#66- Brit Barron: Recovering Mega Church Pastor

July 26th, 2018

Let's go to church y'all. Brit Barron is a pastor, a spiritual director, a speaker, and a recovering mega church pastor. She spends her time exploring what it looks like to reclaim Christianity as a queer woman of …

#65: Outside The Lines w/Mihee Kim-Kort

July 11th, 2018

Mihee Kim-Kort is a pastor, a mother, a wife to a wonderful man, and she's queer. And she didn't discover this till later in life. In her new book, …

#64: Jen Hatmaker is Totes an 8

June 27th, 2018

If you don't know who Jen Hatmaker is... honestly, you might not be frequenting Christian subculture, which is fine! But! Jen is a writer, author, …

#63: Reclaiming My Worship, w/ SueAnn Shiah

June 18th, 2018

My first return guest ever! SueAnn is back to talk about her new album, "A Liturgy for the Preservation of the Saints," which drops June 22. We talk about reclaiming our worship, about gendered language in worship …

#62: Undivided, w/ Vicky Beeching

June 13th, 2018

Vicky Beeching is a writer, speaker, and LGBTQ equality campaigner based in London. After a career as a very well known Christian worship leader, her career in the evangelical church was stripped from her when she came …

#61: On White Cis Gay Dudes, w/ Garrett Schlichte

June 11th, 2018

Like most of my fantastic online relationships, Garrett and I have never met IRL. It's the perfect millennial relationship. We see each other on the twitters, we write stuff, we both a queer and Christian, and we both …

#60: What if the Whore of Babylon is Actually a Drag Queen? w/ Rachel Held Evans

May 28th, 2018

If you don't know who Rachel Held Evans is, you probably are living under a rock (or perhaps you don't live in progressive Christian land). Today, we chat about living in TN, the Bible, her new book, and we have an …

#59: Living in Liminal Spaces, w/ Angie Hong

May 21st, 2018

Angie Hong is a worship artist, a writer, and woman called to lead in the church as an Asian American woman. She currently serves as the creative director for Chicago's Willow Creek campus and works in along the lines …

#58: Ex-Ex-Gay Pastor, w/ Hannah Parks

May 14th, 2018

Start your journey towards better mental health and more happiness today. Sign Up for BetterHelp today: ... Hannah Parks was an ex-gay poster child among evangelical circles, …

#57: Austin Channing Brown is Still Here

May 7th, 2018

Y'all wanna talk about going to CHURCH! Author and activist joins me on the podcast to talk about her upcoming book, "I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness," along with how justice intersects for …

#56: Anime is SO Gay w/ Jonah Ven

May 2nd, 2018

Queer anime, toxic masculinity, femme dude realness today on the podcast! Jonah Venegas is a queer Asian Christian, poet, and blogger currently …

#55: We're Embodied for A Reason, w/ Rev. Tuhina Verma Rasche

April 25th, 2018

Rev. Tuhina Verma Rasche is incredible. Hands down one of the most fun and smart folks I've ever sat down with. She was raised in a Hindu household, …

#54: Drugs, Deception, and Double Lives, w/Tina Alexis Allen

April 16th, 2018

Tina Alexis Allen is an actor, playwright, screenwriter, writer, and so much more. She's written about growing up in a conservative Catholic home in …

#53-The One Where Jamie the Very Worst Missionary Cries

April 9th, 2018

Jamie (The Very Worst Missionary) Wright was a normal evangelical soccer mom, then became a missionary, and immediately after showing up in Costa Rica, realized that the world of missions is, in her words, "a …

#52: Alicia Johnston is a Bisexual Spy

April 2nd, 2018

Alicia Johnston was a Seventh Day Adventist pastor until she announced the world in a viral video that not only was she affirming of queer identities, but that she's bisexual. This forced her out of her career in her …

#51 - Maybe We're All Going to Hell, feat. Exvangelical's Blake Chastain

March 19th, 2018

Blake Chastain is very serious about his faith. And that's why he's no longer an evangelical. In this conversation we'll talk about what led him away from the tradition of his youth, and what started as a podcast has …

#50 - Accidental Activists, w/ Caitlin J. Stout

March 12th, 2018

Coming out is hard. Coming out on a campus where you're one of the only visibly queer folks? That's a whole different beast. Caitlin J. Stout has …

#49 - I Believe the Children Are Our Future (& Other Things), feat. Anna Skates

March 5th, 2018

Welcome to the Road Back to You... I mean A Tiny Revolution. Wherein, Anna Skates and I are talking all the things. From divorce to enneagram, to her …

#48 - Petty and/or Prophetic, feat. Alicia Crosby (Encore Episode)

February 19th, 2018

INFO COMMENTS Spirituality, #conversation, #lgbtq, #petty What is the purpose of Church? What is a holy text? There are some incredible conversation …

#47- Spirituality vs Religion w. Crystal Cheatham (encore episode)

February 12th, 2018

Welcome to another week of #BlackHistoryMonth encore episodes! Crystal Cheatham is a writer, worshiper, and creator of the new and fantastic Our Bible App. With a story like many of our own, Crystal journeyed out of …

#46 - Theology as Survival feat. Rev. Broderick Greer (Encore Episode)

February 5th, 2018

Welcome to Black History Month! This month you'll be hearing encoore episode from some of my favorite black guests who have brought incredible …

#45 - What it's Like Being Gay at Liberty University w/ Nathanial Totten

January 29th, 2018

Liberty University is arguably the most conservative evangelical schools in the United States. With Trump fanatic Jerry Fallwell, Jr. at the helm, …

#44 - Frat Boys Gone Mild

January 15th, 2018

Fraternities generally have a not so great reputation in the public eye. Between hazing practices, horrible sexist and mysogynistic attitudes towards …

#43 - Fuck the Patriarchy (feat. Rev. Neichelle R. Guidry)

January 7th, 2018

Let's start off this New Years Revolution with a bang, shall we? Rev. Dr. Neichelle R. Guidry is our guest today, and she is covering everying from …

#42- All of the Things, feat. Michael Vazquez

December 17th, 2017

Y'all, when two good friends sit down to talk about Jesus, the Church, discipleship, relationship, lust, sexual ethics... like there's so much. Today, Michael Vazquez and Kevin talk about pretty much freaking everything …

#41- #ChurchToo

December 3rd, 2017

Trigger/Content Warning: This episode of A Tiny Revolution features topics relating to sexual assault, especially in religious contexts, and may not …

#40 The Christian Media Trained Answer, feat. Satchell Drakes

November 27th, 2017

When internet friends become real friends, it gets too real. Today, Satchell Drakes, a content creator and host of Forbe's OVERWORLD podcast joins Kevin to talk about being queer, POC and Christian in a world dominated …

#39 - Clarity is Reasonable

November 20th, 2017

It's been the topic across multiple denominations and multiple Christian subculture circles: Church Clarity, an organization dedicated to asking …

#38 - You're Gettin' All in My Kool-Aid...

November 13th, 2017

Darren Calhoun and Kevin go all the way back to their journey of becoming affirming of themselves. Since they met at #TRPinATL almost two years ago, it's been a whirlwind of a journey in discovering who they are. In …

#37 - On Reformation Bingo and Bisexuality

October 23rd, 2017

Emily Joy spoken word poet, yoga-teacher-in-training, and creative justice enthusiast. She and Kevin connected after her video, "Thank God I'm a Virgin" released over 2 years ago, right before her album, "All Prodigal …

#36 - Religion vs Spirituality

October 9th, 2017

Crystal Cheatham is a writer, worshiper, and creator of the new and fantastic Our Bible App. With a story like many of our own, Crystal journeyed out of conservative Christianity and began exploring what faith looks …

#35: What I've Learned from Being Out for Two Years

September 11th, 2017

The thing most people are surprised to learn about me is that I've been out for only two years... and it's been the most fulfilling, most …

#34 - Joyful Resistance with Rev. Jes Kast

August 30th, 2017

What happens when to enneagram 8's with strong 7 wings get together? They giggle and laugh and talk justice with a joyful edge. Rev. Jes Kast joins …

You Shouldn't Be Shocked by Charlottesville

August 14th, 2017

Let's talk about the display of white terrorism that happened at UVA this past weekend. Support this podcast at —

#33 - Petty and/or Prophetic, w/Alicia Crosby

July 31st, 2017

What is the purpose of Church? What is a holy text? There are some incredible conversation points covered today when Kevin sits down with Alicia …

#32 - Life, Death, Music & Love, with Bobby Jo Valentine

July 19th, 2017

Bobby Jo Valentine was born into Baptist surroundings, was nearly a missionary, nearly married the wrong person, lost his faith, found his faith, and has come out on the other end with a guitar in his hand and a smile …

#31: Activist Theology with Dr. Robyn

June 27th, 2017

Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza is a queer, non-binary trans, mixed race latinx public theologian and activist working to make the ethics and theologies …

Episode 30 :That's Not On Brand

June 19th, 2017

Growing up as a queer person of color, RV Mendoza knew how to play the game and played it better than anyone else. In his 20's, he began exploring …

Episode 29: Sin and Setting Shit on Fire w/ Austen Hartke

June 5th, 2017

So it’s the 21st century, we’re all progressive and there is one thing that we all have trouble talking about: sin. Sure, it might be easier to talk …

Something New!

May 31st, 2017

No, not a new episode, BUT! It is a fun announcement. ... Support this podcast at —

Episode 28: Know Thy Selfie

May 23rd, 2017

In an age where we are so connected via social media and online community, why is it that we feel quite alone at times? Why is it that we know more about celebrities and internet personalities than we do about our …

Episode 27: A Better Church for Everyone

May 9th, 2017

Dr. Ken Fong served at his church for nearly four decades, and in that time, walked his church from being simply a place that was loving, but not …

Episode 26 - I'm Not Interested in Being Right

May 1st, 2017

Having conversations with people who are different than you can be difficult. In fact, it can be downright heartbreaking and spiritually draining, …

Episode 25 - Rev. Emmy Kegler is Trying to Convert Me

April 17th, 2017

AND WE'RE BACK! This week, Rev. Emmy Kegler shares her story towards becoming a Lutheran pastor and subtly tries to convert Kevin to the mainline. …

Episode 24: The Spiritual Metaphysics of Art and Rest, with SueAnn Shiah

March 20th, 2017

For artists and creators, making art and creating is not always the easiest thing. Whether it's doubt, the size and scope of a project, or just the …

Episode 22: First Kisses and The Christian Closet, feat. Candice Czubernat

February 20th, 2017

First kisses can be magical! But so many of us are taught that we cannot trust our experience, our feelings, or our bodies. Today, Candice Czubernat, a gay Christian therapist, shares her story of how she met her wife, …

Episode 21: Muslim. American. Self-Care.

January 30th, 2017

It’s only been 7 days since the tyrant took office, and it’s already been hella stressful on all of us, but even more so for Muslims in our country. …

Episode 20: Blue Babies Pink, feat. Brett Trapp

January 23rd, 2017

Blue Babies Pink is a 44-part Southern coming out story, written by Brett Trapp, a former citizen of the corporate world turned writer, speaker, and social entrepreneur. This episode, Kevin and Brett drink whiskey while …

Episode 19: Enough

January 16th, 2017

There is a practice that many people keep of praying for a singular word for the year. A focus word, a vision word, a theme for the season, whatever …

Episode 18: Learning to Live Your Best Life with Jenilee Dowling

January 9th, 2017

New years mean new beginning, and for some that means getting a little help from some people who have been around the block. Today, Jenilee Dowling, a therapist and spiritual energy healer, talks about her experience …

Episode 17: We Don't Know What We're Doing

January 3rd, 2017

Happy New Year, everyone! (BTW- Kevin sounds horrible on this track because after a night of well mannered frivolity, his voice was a mess. SO! just …

Episode 16: A Light Within

December 25th, 2016

Angels always get the best lines. "Fear not" must've worked back in biblical times. In today's episode, we'll explore the story of Mary, mother of Jesus, the birth of Christ, and what it is to say "yes" to God's calling …

Episode 15: Sex, Second Adolescence, and So Much More

December 5th, 2016

Just a quick trigger / adult content warning: In this episode, we talk about sex and shame, not in graphic terms, but we know for some it can be a …

Episode 14: When God Told James to Be Homeless

December 1st, 2016

James Barnett was easily and quickly climbing the American capitalist corporate ladder, living quite a comfortable life, when he finally caught a vision of what Jesus was doing in the world. Shortly after that, he felt …

Episode 13: Take Me to Church, feat. Jordan Bach

November 21st, 2016

So the election happened... now what? Kevin brings us a mini sermon on sitting with our own feelings and talks about ways to use your anger to move you into action, the importance of finding peace, and letting love be …

Episode 12: A Beautiful Burden, feat. Deborah Jian Lee

November 7th, 2016

Author Deborah Jian Lee sit down to discuss her book, "Rescuing Jesus: How Women, People of Color, and Queer Christians are Reclaiming …

Episode 11: You Can't Opt Out of Politics

October 31st, 2016

It's Halloween! And what's scarier than this freaking election? Answer: not much. Today, we're diving into why people might be voting for Trump, the danger of voting third-party in this election, and why Kevin Garcia is …

Episode 10: Theology as Survival with Rev. Broderick Greer

October 18th, 2016

Unapologetically black, queer, and an Episcopal priest. Kevin sits down this week with the Reverend Broderick Greer to talk about the intersections …

Episode 9: Queer Asians & Straight Boys with Queer Haircuts, feat. Niki Ang and Kenji Kuramitsu

October 11th, 2016

Coming Out Day is October 11th, and though these are stories of joy and self-acceptance, coming out in a Christian context is sometimes a lot more …

Episode 8: Surrender and Soil

September 26th, 2016

And now for something different! This week, Kevin gives a teaching called "Surrender and Soil" where he talks about entering into the flow of our greater life through surrendering our small existence. He also talks …

Episode 7: Coming Out, V-Necks, and Being a Lady of the Cloth with Rev. Sarah Heath

September 21st, 2016

Coming out can be a difficult process and it is unique to every individual. Kevin shares some of his experience with his coming out process while …

Episode 6: If You Can't Be Yourself, Be Rachel Held Evans, feat. Sarah Bessey

September 12th, 2016

We're back and Kevin is sitting down with author, pastor, and recovering know-it-all, Sarah Bessey. In addition to touching on her books "Out of Sorts" and "Jesus Feminist," there is a lot of laughs, a bit of sarcasm, …

Episode 5: Orca Whales are More Emotionally Intelligent than Us, feat. Isaac Archuleta

August 29th, 2016

"Decent Advice" is back for one more week with Kevin answering a question on self-confidence that turns out to be one part meditation practice, one part storytelling, and two parts sermon on your worth as a child of …

Episode 4: Permission Slips and Processes, feat. Aydian Dowling

August 22nd, 2016

Once again, Kevin and Amelia tackle your questions surround love and romance with little to no real world experience in the matters of love or romance. LOLZ, am I right? And then transgender fitness model and social …

Episode 3: Garrard Conley is Still Gay

August 15th, 2016

Armed with with learning how to do everything wrong, Kevin and Amelia tackle your relationship and dating questions in a new segment called, "Decent Advice." And then later, Kevin talks to author Garrard Conley about …

Episode 2: Lead with Love, feat. Colby Martin

August 8th, 2016

This week, Kevin shares some thoughts on leading with love and not your theology, and then later Colby Martin talks about his up coming book …

Episode 1: Crushing Beers with Science Mike

July 30th, 2016

In this first episode, Kevin and friends discuss the RNC, Michele Obama, and the zombie apocalypse. Then, Kevin has a conversation with Science Mike about his new book, "Finding God in The Waves," as well as Taylor vs …
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