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A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

296 EpisodesProduced by Michelle and Andrew The Two Dental HygienistsWebsite

This is the BEST dental hygiene podcast out there! You will get up-to-date information with some real life application. Michelle and Andrew are exactly where you are, hygienists looking to get better! We may not be experts, but we will do our best to get them on the show! Please rate and review us o… read more

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221 Student Focused Presents: HPV and the link to Oropharyngeal Cancers

April 1st, 2020


It’s A Tale of Two Hygienists’ monthly student roundtable episode, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited a trio of guests to educate student listeners on a chosen topic. This week, they are discussing human …

TIPisode with Teresa Duncan

March 28th, 2020


In this week's episode, Teresa brings us advice for the admin items we can knock off our todo list during the COVID-19 shutdown.  Use this time to be creative and get prepared for when you are able to return.  Teresa …

220 Clear Aligner Therapy with Ren Menon and OrthoFX

March 25th, 2020


Clear aligner therapy has allowed orthodontists and patients alike to straighten teeth in a more aesthetically pleasing way than braces—but how are …

TIPisode with Michelle and Andrew

March 20th, 2020


This week, Michelle and Andrew are coming at you with another set of TIPs on dental mission trips.  Michelle and Andrew started their friendship because of their love of dental mission trips.  They have been on a few …

219 Tooth Trends with Jamie Henderson, Dr. Pam Maragliano Muniz, and Dr. Tom Sterio

March 18th, 2020


Humans have learned to tattoo or bejewel every corner of their bodies, and yes that includes their mouth. Whether it’s mouth tattoos or tooth jewelry, dental professionals may work with patients who’ve modified their …

TIPisode with Eden Ivie

March 13th, 2020


Last month you learned what teledentistry is, and this month, Eden teaches us the many ways we can use teledentistry to open up access to care! You may be surprised by how it can help you in your private practice!

Don't …

218 Whitening: What you should know with Dr. Rod Kurthy

March 11th, 2020


Thanks to advances in dental technology, teeth whitening can be done in your own home. But how do these products and techniques actually work, and …

TIPisode with Cindy Purdy, RDH

March 6th, 2020


Let's talk ergonomics.  It isn't just a buzz word.  We put our bodies through a lot as dental professionals.  Where did the idea of ergonomics even come from and how do we apply it to our profession?  Cindy breaks it …

217 Student Focused Presents - EQ vs. IQ

March 4th, 2020


It’s A Tale of Two Hygienists’ monthly student roundtable episode, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited a trio of guests to educate student listeners on a chosen topic. This month’s subject is emotional …

TIPisode with Michelle and Andrew February 2020

February 28th, 2020


In this week's TIPisode, Andrew and Michelle discuss ideas to help you navigate the dental conference world. Whether you are an industry professional …

216 The Dental Hygiene Bridge to Medical Care with Mary Signorino and Jamie Freitag-Dooley

February 26th, 2020


Continuing A Tale of Two Hygienists’ series on the integration of oral health care into other fields, this week’s guests are two hygienists who act as bridges between the dental world and the medical world.


Mary …

TIPisode with Dr. Tom Viola

February 21st, 2020


Antibiotics use is often a debated topic in our profession and between our profession and specialties like orthopedics.  What do the guidelines say?  How do we advocate for our patients so we don't create these …

215 When Dental Hygiene Meets Healthcare with Laurie Clark and Michelle Gross Panico

February 19th, 2020


A Tale of Two Hygienists continues its series on how professionals have integrated oral health care with other medical practices in new and innovative ways by speaking with employees of a vital public health …

TIPisode with Eden Ivie

February 14th, 2020


Teledentistry.  You have heard it used, but what does it mean?  Telehealth is helping people all over the world, but dentistry has been a bit slower …

214 Sonya Dunbar, “The Geriatric Toothfairy”

February 12th, 2020


A Tale of Two Hygienists is launching a series on how professionals and patients integrate dental treatment with other forms of medical care. For this week, Andrew and Michelle have invited a guest who specializes in …

TIPIsode with Cindy Purdy

February 7th, 2020


Saddle stools are not "one size fits all" and how you sit in them is different than a traditional stool.  Cindy Purdy breaks down how to sit in a …

213 Student Focused Presents - Sealant Literature Review

February 5th, 2020


It’s A Tale of Two Hygienists’ monthly student roundtable episode, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited a trio of guests to educate student listeners on a chosen topic. This episode’s subject is all about …

TIPisode with Tom Viola

January 31st, 2020


Polypharmacy.... is that a new term for you?  This TIPisode discusses what this means.  This TIPisode can benefit YOU, your loved ones, and your …

212 Myofunctional Therapy Series part 4 with Sarah Hornsby

January 29th, 2020


For the final installment in A Tale of Two Hygienists’ series on myofunctional therapy, guest and myofunctional expert Sarah Hornsby discusses how to integrate this kind of therapy into a clinic’s practices, develop a …

TIPisode with Dr. Ryan Nolan

January 24th, 2020


Dr. Ryan Nolan talks about preventive products and the three pillars of disease: biology, chemistry, physiology.  A healthy biofilm in one person may …

211 Myofunctional Therapy Series part 3 with Sarah Hornsby

January 22nd, 2020


A Tale of Two Hygienists continues its series on myofunctional therapy by looking at how these issues manifest in older children and adults and how …

TIPisode with Eden Ivie, RDH

January 17th, 2020


This week's tip is all about increasing patient acceptance with the use of an intra-oral camera.  A picture speaks a 1000 words, right? With these tips, you will be able to help patients see what their needs are and get …

210 Myofunctional Therapy Series part 2 with Sarah Hornsby

January 15th, 2020


A Tale of Two Hygienists is continuing its miniseries on myofunctional therapy with Sarah K. Hornsby. This week, she shines a light on how myofunctional disorders develop in babies and infants and how widely-accepted …

TIPisode with Cindy Purdy

January 10th, 2020


Ergonomics is no longer just a trendy buzz word.  Join Cindy on this TIPisode as she discusses personal injuries in the dental office.  Did you know we are #1 on a list! But don't get too excited, this isn't going to be …

209 Myofunctional Therapy Series part 1 with Sarah Hornsby

January 8th, 2020


A Tale of Two Hygienists is starting the New Year off with a brand new series focusing on myofunctional therapy, which focuses on the treatment of …

Bullying and Burnout W/Michelle and Andrew

January 6th, 2020


Next stop, vulnerability station! As a kind of New Year’s gift, Andrew and Michelle have wrapped up a special bonus episode of A Tale of Two …

208 Student Focused Presents: Treating Patients with HIV

January 1st, 2020


For the latest student roundtable, A Tale of Two Hygienists has invited on three guests who either work with patients affected by HIV/AIDS or have studied the virus to debunk myths and misconceptions surrounding this …

TIPisode with Dr. Uche Odiatu

December 27th, 2019


Dr. Uche Odiatu is back and here to get you started in 2020!  Are you setting a goal or resolution?  If so, you need to hear this! 

Dr. Odiatu is a …

207 Airway Health with Julia Worrall!

December 26th, 2019


Sometimes the real challenge in treating an airway disorder is getting the patient to actually take our advice—which can mean encouraging the other care providers a patient has to speak to them about the problem. This …

TIpisode with Michelle Strange

December 20th, 2019


We are switching it up this week and bringing you a tip from Michelle.  She has a huge course on maintaining dental implants in-office and at-home and for some reason hasn't shared that info with you guys.  This week …

206 Oral Bacteria and Alzheimers with Anne O. Rice

December 18th, 2019


While you might not see the connection at first, there is a connection between poor oral health, poor sleep, and neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer’s. To interview this week’s guest about the subject, Michelle …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

December 13th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch.

The ultrasonic bath is more important in the sterilization process than you may have given it …

205 Vitamins, Gut Health, and Sleep with Dr. Stasha Gominak

December 11th, 2019


Michelle is joined by co-host Eva Masters Ramsey for the latest A Tale of Two Hygienists interview to discuss anything and everything pertaining to the unexpected relationship between sleep, vitamin intake and oral …

TIPisode with Tom Viola

December 6th, 2019


Dr. Tom Viola does an excellent job of explaining osteoporosis and osteonecrosis. We have so many patients, friends, family members, and maybe even …

204 Student Focused Presents: Oral Systemic Health

December 3rd, 2019


A Tale of Two Hygienists is once again hosting a roundtable of guests for the benefit of you soon-to-be graduates. This discussion, recorded at …

TIPisode with Teresa Duncan

November 29th, 2019


Generation EZ... Teresa explains to us why we all fall under that generation umbrella.  Are you making visits to your office easy?  Teresa gives us great suggestions for ways we can accommodate our patients in this …

203 Budgets, Business, and Benchmarks

November 27th, 2019


Continuing its deep dive into the business side of dentistry, this week A Tale of Two Hygienists is examining the nitty gritty of office budgets and what makes for a healthy working relationship between a dentist and …

TIPisode with Uche Odiatu

November 22nd, 2019


Dr. Uche Odiatu is back and has 21 strategies to help us all survive the holidays. Office parties, family feasts, and holiday baking create a …

202 Getting to Know your Why - With Corey Jameson-Kuehl

November 20th, 2019


To continue its series on the business side of dentistry, A Tale of Two Hygienists is taking a look at how you can ensure your office team works together like a well-oiled machine. For this discussion, Michelle is …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong

November 15th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and now

This week, Claire helps us to remember the difference in brand vs. generic. We can waste time when …

201 Metrics Matter! with Josey Sewell, RDH

November 13th, 2019


A Tale of Two Hygienists is happy to bring its listeners a new series on the business side of dental hygiene, something not every hygienist is familiar with but certainly has a massive impact on how effectively we’re …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

November 8th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch.

Are you still working with the cold sterile solution in your office?  Noel gives us the deets on …

200 Student Focused Presents: Embracing Dental Technology

November 6th, 2019


Michelle recently dropped by Dentsply Sirona World, a three-day conference for dental professionals held in Las Vegas, where she had the opportunity to speak with three dental hygienists who generously discussed some of …

TIPisode with Tom Viola

November 1st, 2019


Dr. Tom Viola tells us about the power of the medical history and why you shouldn't ask the patient if they take any medication...  

With over 30 …

199 Connecting Through Teledentistry

October 30th, 2019


Andrew and Michelle’s trip to RDH Under One Roof actually allowed them to pack a bunch of RDHs (and a dentist!) under one roof to record this …

TIPisode with Dr. Uche Odiatu

October 25th, 2019


A day in the life of Dr. Uche Odiatu is this week's TIPisode! Dr. Odiatu walks his talk and you can get a glimpse into what he does to keep fit, healthy, and happy!

Dr. Odiatu is a practicing dentist, certified trainer, …

198 Finding Clarity with Dental Endoscopes

October 23rd, 2019


Periodontal surgery can be essential in treating oral disease that goes below the gumline, but the very thought of going through such a procedure …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong

October 18th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and now

This week, Claire helps us to …

197 Human Trafficking: A Global Concern with Sakher Alqahtani

October 16th, 2019


This week’s A Tale of Two Hygienists is a heavier episode dealing with personal loss and worldwide turmoil, but it also offers a glimpse into a very necessary side of dentistry and examines a major issue affecting our …

TIPisode with Andre Shirdan

October 11th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Andre Shirdan and he talks to us about utilizing our software. Are you having a hard time working with your particular …

196 Breast Cancer Survivors Roundtable with Kris Potts and Mary Jensen

October 9th, 2019


October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, so to start it off in stride we’re using this roundtable episode as an opportunity to speak with two hygienists who have had to live with breast cancer—and persevered.


Mary …

TIPisode with Teresa Duncan Oct 2019

October 4th, 2019


Consultants.... does that word send shivers down your spine?  We have all heard the horror stories about consultants taking over practices, and …

195 Student Focused Presents: Tips From Your Future Colleagues

October 1st, 2019


A Tale of Two Hygienists’ student roundtable series is taking a different approach this week, aimed entirely at students who’ve only recently started …

TIPisode with Uche Odiatu

September 27th, 2019


This week Dr. Odiatu is talking about a work-life balance.  We all struggle to find that balance, but Dr. Odiatu has some great suggestions to help navigate that journey!

Dr. Odiatu is a practicing dentist, certified …

194 Infection Control Compliance with Toothcop Duane Tinker

September 25th, 2019


It’s come to this: the final installment in A Tale of Two Hygienists’ infection control series. To close things off, we’ve brought on a former law …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch September

September 20th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch.

Closed containers-- how important are they and what do you need to consider when finding the best product for your practice-- that is what this TIPisode is all about!

193 Bloodborne Pathogens with Kim Laudenslager!

September 18th, 2019


As Andrew and Michelle continue their infection control series, they really want to focus on bloodborne pathogens—basically any disease or infection …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong

September 13th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and now

This week, Claire helps us to remember the important details we need to know when treating patients with …

192 OSAP: The Best Kept Secret in Infection Control with Michelle Lee

September 11th, 2019


Andrew and Michelle recently discussed infection and contagion control at length with their last trio of roundtable guests, one of who was kind …

TIPisode with Tom Viola

September 6th, 2019


Dr. Tom Viola has been on the podcast before and in this TIPisode he highlights some great points about vaping.  This is a hot topic these days and …

191 Student Focused Presents - Infection Control Roundtable with Emily Boge, Joy Void-Holmes, and Michelle Lee

September 4th, 2019


When your job requires you to get right up close and personal to a patient’s mouth, you need to really get on top of your cleanliness game—especially before you graduate and start your career as a hygienist. So, to that …

TIPisode with the Crest Smile Council Members

August 30th, 2019


We have an extra Friday this month so we thought we would bring you something different! 

Andrew has been on the Crest Smile Council for a few years …

190 Congenital Muscular Dystrophy with Two Rare Mama Bears Podcast Hosts Megan and Matty

August 28th, 2019


Congenital Muscular Dystrophy (CMD) is an inherited disease that atrophies skeletal muscles and results in poor development of motor skills and other …

The Best Episode Ever with Leah and Kelsey from Two Therapists and a Thesis Podcast!

August 25th, 2019


A refreshing departure from our normal episodes, we meet up with Leah and Kelsey while in Brisbane for the ISDH. We begin with some Aussie slang and then briefly talk some dental before getting back off-topic, which I …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

August 23rd, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch.

Can you use low volume and high volume at the same time?  Can you drape your suction on the light …

189 Martinis and Menopause with Kelli Swanson Jaecks

August 21st, 2019


Menopause, that inevitable middle-aged milestone, can actually negatively impact oral health, which is pertinent not only to our patients but to mental dental professionals as well. To this end, we’ve invited on Kelli …

188 Diabetes and Treatment Consideration with Stacey Simms!

August 14th, 2019


Nearly 30 million people across the United States are diagnosed with diabetes, and many of them will find themselves in your care as a dental professional. People struggling with diabetes are at higher risk for certain …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong August 2019

August 9th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and now

We are all struggling with information overload.  With all the gadgets, notifications, and noises around …

187 Student Focused Presents: Dental Mission Trips

August 7th, 2019


Our monthly student roundtable discussion episodes are dedicated to help you navigate the at-times turbulent waters from graduation to internship to …

Today's RDH Has a Podcast! with Kara RDH and Ben Buzbee!

August 5th, 2019


Kara Vavrosky (Kara, RDH) and Ben Buzbee return to the show to tell us about some exciting new updates going on including their new podcast!

Listen on …

TIPisode with Teresa Duncan

August 2nd, 2019


These TIPisodes keep getting better and better!  Teresa gives us another round of great advice and in this tip, she is talking PPOs

Teresa Duncan, MS is such a wealth of knowledge. Please visit her website and enjoy her …

186 Medical Emergency Tips From a Paramedic with Susannah Trammell

July 31st, 2019


Continuing our series on dental-adjacent issues, we’re tackling a scenario that every dental hygienist should be prepared for, however unlikely it …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

July 26th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch.

Do we need to really clean AND disinfect?  Noel answers a listeners question on this week's episode. 

Medicom sponsors this episode.  Head over to their website and …

185 Suicide Prevention: An Introduction with Randi Jensen MA, LMHC, CCDC

July 24th, 2019


A Tale of Two Hygienists continues its series on dental-adjacent issues that can impact ourselves and our patients. This week, Andrew and Michelle have invited someone on the show, who has professional and personal …

TIPisode with Uche Odiatu

July 19th, 2019


This week Dr. Odiatu is talking about total body health and that our job is more than being concerned with P. gingivalis. 

Dr. Odiatu is a practicing dentist, certified trainer, author, speaker, and repeat AToTH guest.  …

184 Vaping: A Big Deal? With Edie Gibson, RDH

July 17th, 2019


Vaping is everywhere these days, to the point where it’s difficult to go for a walk without spotting someone puffing from a vape pen of some kind. …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong

July 12th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and now

She has also created Wake Up Memory tips to help us remember the 3 drugs that cause gingival …

183 Child Abuse with India Chance, RDH

July 10th, 2019


This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists, we're digressing from our usual technical discussions to shine a light on an unpleasant but very important …

TIPisode with Andre Shirdan

July 5th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Andre Shirdan and he talks to us about consistency. We have to be consistent with our findings and how each team member is documenting their observations.  Listen now to see what he suggests …

182 Student Focused Presents - RDH Innovators

July 3rd, 2019


Our monthly student roundtable discussion episodes are dedicated to help you navigate the at-times turbulent waters from graduation to internship to …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

June 28th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch.

Extracted teeth, what do we do with them? Can the patient take them home? Can we throw them in the trash? Learn the answers to these questions and more on this week's …

181 Michelle and Daniel do another mission trip!

June 26th, 2019


First, we want to thank Premier for sponsoring this mission trip and letting us use the AeroPro cordless handpiece.  This was a first for both Michelle and Daniel.  Offering the feeling of smooth, clean teeth is …

TIPisode with Uche Odiatu

June 21st, 2019


This week Dr. Odiatu discusses the healthy food paradox. How can food that is good for our body be bad for the mouth? Dr. Odiatu tells us why and how we can have those conversations with patients  

Dr. Odiatu is a …

Intro to Orthodontics with Dr. Bryan Green

June 19th, 2019


Andrew and Michelle are launching a new mini-series on specialty, this week is part 2 on orthodontics. At first glance, this topic doesn't seem to have a lot of apparent crossover with dental hygiene, but listeners will …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong, RDH

June 14th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and now

She has also created Wake Up Memory …

179 Intro to Endo with Dr. T.R Ravenel

June 12th, 2019


Andrew and Michelle are launching a new mini-series on dental specialty. For this first episode, they aim to give hygienists the knowledge they need to help patients understand the importance and procedures related to …

178 Dental-Related Inpatient Hospitalization Trends with Dr. Josefine Wolfe

June 10th, 2019


For this bonus episode—powered by Crest+Oral B—we're happy to invite back on our show Josefine Ortiz Wolfe, who’s continuing our latest series on …

TIPisode with Teresa Duncan

June 7th, 2019


These TIPisodes keep getting better and better!  Teresa gives us another round of great advice and in this tip, she tackles the new Perio Classifications!

Teresa Duncan, MS is such a wealth of knowledge. Please visit …

177 Student Focused Presents: Public Health

June 5th, 2019


Our monthly student roundtable discussion episodes are dedicated to help you navigate the at-times turbulent waters from graduation to full …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

May 31st, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch and is a great reminder about our surface disinfectants!

Medicom sponsors this episode.  Head over to their website and learn more about their SafeMask to keep you and …

176 Cariology in Public Health with Sharity Ludwig, RDH

May 29th, 2019


It’s the final installment of Andrew and Michelle’s four-part cariology series! To cap off our journey with caries, we’re stepping away from private …

175 Caries Detection with Technology with Dr. Paresh Shah pt 3 of 4 of the Cariology Series

May 22nd, 2019


It’s part three of four of Andrew and Michelle’s cariology series! As we near the final stretch, this episode’s specific focus is on the tools and …

TIPisode with Uche Odiatu

May 17th, 2019


This week Dr. Odiatu is joined by Mahsa Bakhshandeh, RDH.  They chat about how we can enhance our chairside conversations and help our patients make better lifestyle choices!

Dr. Odiatu is a practicing dentist, …

174 Cariology Series part 2 with Dr. Pam Maragliano-Muniz

May 15th, 2019


This week Michelle and Andrew continue their 4-part cariology series, where they consult with the experts on how to properly diagnose, treat and …

173 Local and Topical Anesthetics in Dentistry with Tom Viola R.Ph

May 12th, 2019


For this bonus episode—powered by Crest+Oral B—we're happy to invite back Tom Viola, R.Ph who appeared in another bonus episode earlier this January.

TIPisode with Claire Jeong

May 10th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and

She has also created Wake Up Memory tips to help us remember …

172 Caries Detection and Etiology with Dr. Pam Maragliano-Muniz!

May 8th, 2019


Interview starts minute 7:55

Cariology Series Part ONE

Be sure to buckle up because the next few weeks of A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast are going …

TIPisode with Andre Shirdan

May 3rd, 2019


We are excited to have this TIPisode presented by Andre Shirdan!  He was on the podcast before!


Andre is an inspirational and motivational speaker, executive coach, and a certified trainer. 
Since 1989, Andre has …

171 Student Focused presents: Demystifying DSO's with Rafael, Tammy, and Ashley!

May 1st, 2019


Our monthly student roundtable discussion episodes are dedicated to help you navigate the at-times turbulent waters from graduation to internship to …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

April 26th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Noel Brandon-Kelsch and is a great reminder of how vital our masks are and what not to do with them!

Medicom sponsors this episode.  Head over to their website and learn more about their …

170 Sugar Obsessed with Karen Davis, RDH

April 24th, 2019


Continuing our themes of health and nutrition from the last few episodes, Michelle and Andrew have invited a guest who isn’t just critical of our society’s intake—she has reason to believe it’s the key ingredient in our …

TIPisode with Uche Odiatu

April 19th, 2019


This week's TIPisode is with Dr. Uche Odiatu as he discusses why poor sleepers are poor healers.

Dr. Odiatu is a practicing dentist, certified trainer, author, speaker, and repeat AToTH guest.  He always brings us …

169: Vitamins for a Healthier You before a Healthier Two w/ Katy Cameron

April 17th, 2019


While Michelle, unfortunately, wasn’t able to sit down for this show’s latest episode, the similarly named hygienist Machell Hudson (previously heard on Episode 128) has kindly stopped by to help Andrew interview a …

168 Stannous Fluoride and What It Can Do For Your Patients with Sherri Lukes, RDH

April 16th, 2019


For this bonus episode—powered by Crest+Oral B—we're happy to invite back Sherri Lukes, who previously appeared on episode 103.

Sherri M. Lukes, RDH, …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong, RDH

April 12th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and

She has also created Wake Up Memory tips to help us remember …

167 HIPAA Violation Considerations with Ann Marie DePalma

April 10th, 2019


We’re excited to have Ann Marie DePalma, RDH, back on our show again (previously heard on episode 90)! We met up with her at the Yankee Dental Congress in very chilly Boston where we got to talking about how your office …

TIPisode with Teresa Duncan

April 5th, 2019


These TIPisodes keep getting better and better!  Teresa gives us another round of great advice and in this tip, she tackles the 4355 code

Teresa Duncan, MS is such a wealth of knowledge. Please visit her website and …

166 Student Focused presents - Resumé and Interview Tips with Doug, Teresa, and Kim!

April 3rd, 2019


Most people don’t truly receive proper instruction for how to write a résumé, least of all one tailored to dental hygiene. Thankfully the new panel …

TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

March 29th, 2019


Noel Brandon-Kelsch is an international speaker, writer, Registered Dental Hygienist in Alternative Practice and Director of Cabrillo College Dental …

165 Hygiene Compensation Models with Rachel Wall, RDH, BS

March 27th, 2019


Following the thread from last week's discussion, we're taking a close look at how hygienists get paid and, most importantly, how they can get paid …

TIPisode with Dr. Uche Odiatu

March 22nd, 2019


If you have heard Dr. Uche Odiatu on the podcast or have been lucky enough to have seen him present, you know he has a ton of energy!  We wish he …

164 Employee or independent contractor? The 1099 breakdown with Olivia Wann

March 20th, 2019


We're ecstatic to have dental compliance expert Olivia Wann, RD, JD back on our show again (hear her previously on episode 82)! The founder of Modern …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong March 2019

March 15th, 2019


Claire Jeong is the founder of,, and

She has also created Wake Up Memory tips to help us remember …

163 Hygienists are doing it wrong! with Dr. Tarun Agarwal

March 13th, 2019


As you can tell from the background chatter, The Voices of Dentistry conference was a blast, and it was made even better by this episode’s guest: a dentist with strong feelings about, well..... everything! We will be at …

162 A Quick Look at the New Periodontal Classification with Susan Wingrove!

March 11th, 2019


For this bonus episode—powered by Crest+Oral B—we're happy to invite back Susan Wingrove, who previously appeared on episode 21.

Susan is a registered dental hygienist, speaker, published author and CEO of Wingrove …

TIPisode with Teresa Duncan March 2019

March 8th, 2019


Teresa Duncan, MS gives another great tip on dental coding. Why would hygienist need to be fully aware of dental codes?  Teresa explains why our …

161 Student Focused presents: "Confidence vs Humility"

March 6th, 2019


It’s a special roundtable episode, focusing on how you soon-to-be graduates can find a healthy balance between confidence in your own abilities and understanding you still have limits. We’re joined by Cape Cod Community …

February TIPisode with Noel Kelsch

March 1st, 2019


Noel Brandon-Kelsch is an international speaker, writer, Registered Dental Hygienist in Alternative Practice and Director of Cabrillo College Dental …

160 Lifestyle Habits For a Healthier Patient with Dr Uche Odiatu

February 27th, 2019


If you enjoyed hearing from Uche Odiatu on our recent TIPisode, then you'll be pumped to know that we recorded an even longer episode with him …

TIPisode with Uche Odiatu February 2019

February 22nd, 2019


This week's TIPisode is brought to by Dr. Uche Odiatu.  He is a road warrior, out teaching us ways to be healthier so we can keep helping our patients. He is such a road warrior that he recorded this while in an …

159 Minimally Invasive Dentistry with Dr. John Comisi!

February 21st, 2019


This week's guest isn't just satisfied with scraping teeth. A master of “practical management,” he aims for such a thorough treatment that his patients won't need to come back as often.

John Comisi, DDS, MAGD, is a …

158 Closing the Gap Between What We Know and What We Do with Josefine Wolfe PhD, RDH

February 18th, 2019


Dr. Josefine Ortiz Wolfe is a registered dental hygienist who writes and educates online and in person as The Informed Hygienist. She was kind to …

TIPisode with Claire Jeong, February 2019

February 15th, 2019


Tip 2 Claire    This week’s TIPisode is brought to you by Claire Jeong, RDH.  Learn wake-up memory techniques for remembering hypertension drugs.  Find more info at and    Be sure to …

157 What You Thought You Knew About Adjunctive Therapy with Dr Ryan Nolan, DMD

February 14th, 2019


We get to really nerd out this week as we invite on Ryan Nolan, DMD. Ryan is a practitioner, commentator, and creator of the amazing podcast The …

EMERGENCY SESSION! Will DA's take over our scope of practice in WA?

February 10th, 2019


In this episode, we have an emergency session about the scope of practice expansion for dental assistants proposed in the new bills presented in Washington State. We brought in two hygienists from Washington State and …

TIPisode Teresa Duncan #1

February 8th, 2019


Tip 1 Teresa Duncan

This week’s TIPisode is brought to you by Teresa Duncan, MS- Speaker on insurance and management, Podcaster, Author, and contributes to several magazines and the ADA’s publications


156 Student Focused presents: "Expectations"

February 6th, 2019


This podcast episode is specifically for students. You are gonna be working shoulder to shoulder with us soon enough, let us help get you ready for …

155 Orthodontics and Airway with Dr. William Hang

February 1st, 2019


Our guest this episode is William Hang, DDS, MSD. Both an orthodontist with Face Focused Orthodontics and lecturer on orthodontics and orthotropics, William has completely rethought his approach to working with patients …

154 Getting Started with Airway part 4 of 4

January 26th, 2019


For this episode, we wrap up our four-part airway series with Cyndee Johnson and Julia Worrall. We focus on how to get people to get their airways …

153 Airway: The Clinician's Masterful Mindset pt 3 of 4

January 19th, 2019


Episode 153

Interview Begins: 5:50

In this episode Cyndee takes the lead to teach us how to implement everything we have learned so far in this series into our practice.

How can our dental teams begin the conversation …

*BONUS* Dental Pain Control with Tom Viola, R.Ph., C.C.P.

January 15th, 2019


Dentistry and Pain are synonymous for so many of our patients. Whether we need to get better about managing the pain or the patient needs to do their part, there is definitely room for improvement. In this episode, Tom …

152 Stages of Life Affected by Airway (Part 2 of 4)

January 12th, 2019


Interview starts minute 8:10

In part 2 of the airway series, we talk about life’s stages. We begin with babies, even before they are born and the impact that the mother’s airway has on the child throughout prenatal …

151 Airway Part 1 - Anatomy and Physiology Focus

January 5th, 2019


Ep 151
Welcome back to a new year of A Tale of Two Hygienists. We are starting off with a bang featuring our airway series with Julia Worrall and …

Does your Dental CE actually count?

December 30th, 2018


Join us in this bonus episode with founder of CE Zoom, Sarah Thiel as we discuss the biggest issues related to CE. Did you know that there are many courses being offered in your area that do not actually count towards …

Introducing The Tooth or Dare Podcast!

December 22nd, 2018


We welcome a new pair of dental hygiene podcasters to the group Irene and Whitney. We talk briefly about what they want out of their podcast, why you …

150 Using Digital Scans and Impressions in Dentistry

December 15th, 2018


Episode 150! Cant believe we made it this far!!

Interview starts 4:30

In this episode we have a roundtable discussion on the impact digital scanning has had on our guests. Special thanks to our guests Dr. Justin Chi, …

The Business of Dental Hygiene with Dr. Tony Stefanou DMD

December 8th, 2018


149 The Business of Dental Hygiene with Tony Stefanou DMD

Interview starts minute 6:00

In this episode, we talk about how we, as hygienists, can …

Social Media and HIPAA with Noel Kelsch

December 1st, 2018


148 Social Media and HIPAA with Noel Kelsch

Interview Starts at minute 4:00

In this episode, we speak with Noel Kelsch about the dangerous world we play in online (social media) when discussing patient information. Noel …

Dental Missions: A Model of Structure and Sustainability with Somos Amigos

November 24th, 2018


147 Dental Missions: A Model of Structure and Sustainability with Somos Amigos
Interview starts at minute 6:50

In this episode, we are joined by Frank Brightwell, founder of Somos Amigos Medical Missions. We discuss the …

Come Find Us At Greater New York Dental Meeting! **bonus**

November 21st, 2018


Happy Thanksgiving everyone! We hope you will have an enjoyable time with your family and friends! After Thanksgiving each year is the Greater New York Dental Meeting and we are going! Please come find us and say hi. We …

American and Canadian Dental Hygienist Associations Team Up at AAP

November 18th, 2018


146 ADHA and CDHA at AAP

Interview begins at 6:20

In this epic battle royale, two presidents of dental hygiene associations square off in the ring....

The Acidity Factor of Mouthwashes with Dr. Jason Luchtefeld

November 10th, 2018


145 Dr. Jason Luchtefeld, DDS

Interview starts at minute 6:30

In this episode, we talk about the pH of the different mouthwashes that are out there …

Dental Anxiety for Clinicians and Patients with Chelsea Kuntz, RDH

November 3rd, 2018


144 Chelsea Kuntz, RDH

Dental Anxiety for Clinicians and Patients with Chelsea Kuntz, RDH

Interview starts at: 10:30

Today we have Chelsea Kuntz on the podcast talking about dental anxiety. Listen as she gives us …

Ultrasonics: A Dental Hygiene Game Changer with Marianne Dryer RDH MEd

October 26th, 2018


Episode 143
Interview begins at minute 10:30

Today we listen and learn from the amazing Marianne Dryer RDH, MEd about ultrasonic instrumentation. …

**BONUS** Airway in Dentistry and Medicine

October 22nd, 2018


In this bonus teaser episode we speak with Cyndee Johnson, RDH and Julia Worrall, RN as they explain our upcoming collaboration project. In a few …

HPV - What you need to know as a dental hygienist with Diana Perez Corbin, RDH

October 20th, 2018


Interview begins about minute 7:35

We begin by talking about Diana’s background with Crosslink Radio and why she got into dental hygiene. From clown …

Dental Hygiene Entrepreneur Caitlyn Rastetter, RDH

October 13th, 2018


Interview begins: 7:40

We begin the discussion with Caitlyn with a behind the scenes to convention center life then transition into how Caitlyn got her start. Listen as we explore how she went from hygiene student to …

**Bonus** Live from WDHA Indigo Conference!

October 11th, 2018


Here is the live version of the morning session entitled, "A Tale of Many Hygienists" We will get the audio from these to be awesome one of these days. 

Key Takeaways - Wisconsin is awesome. Their hygienists are …

Pediatric and Intraosseous Local Anesthesia Techniques with Kathy Bassett, RDH!

October 6th, 2018


Interview begins - 7:20

Kathy Bassett, RDH, BSDH, MEd returns to the podcast! Today we talk about Local Anesthesia again but dive deeper into …

**Bonus Episode** We are headed to the Indigo Conference!

October 2nd, 2018


A Tale of Two Hygienists is headed to Wisconsin this weekend to speak and podcast at the Wisconsin DHA Indigo Conference. We feel very fortunate to be able to attend and encourage you all to head on over if you are in …

Gut Health pt 2 with Dr. Uche Odiatu

September 29th, 2018


Interview starts at 5:15

Dr. Uche Odiatu brings the knowledge! We talk about health and nutrition in a way that only Dr. Odiatu can - high energy, facts, truth, easy to understand. You will feel so much smarter and will …

137 StudentRDH and Learning Techniques with Claire Jeong, RDH -

September 22nd, 2018


 Episode begins around minute 9:00

In this episode we catch up with Claire Jeong, RDH, BS, MS to talk about some very important things - students! We …

136 Scaling is NOT the key to total mouth disinfection! with Dr. Doug Thompson and Erin Howlett RDH -

September 15th, 2018


Interview starts around minute 14:30

Dr. Doug Thompson and Erin Howlett, RDH take time at RDH Under One Roof to explain what is the Wellness …

Networking Event with Armor Dental at RDH Under One Roof

September 7th, 2018


In this episode, we talk about the importance of networking. For better or worse, its here to stay and it is an important part of our lives as hygienists. We had the opportunity to record with several people at the …

135 Can Dental Hygienists Diagnose? JoAnn Gurenlian, RDH, PhD -

September 1st, 2018


Interview Starts: 13:15

Today we are talking about two things: The dental hygiene diagnosis and The Sunstar World Dental Hygienists Awards that are available for the IFDH conference in Brisbane, Australia August 2019.

134 Traveling Dental Hygiene with Team Placement Services, Inc. with Kate and Sandra!

August 25th, 2018


Interview starts around 22:00

Kate Crouse and Sandra Calderon from Team Placement join us at RDH Under One Roof 2018! Team Placement Services helps hygienists and offices find each other. There can be long-term …

133 Amanda Gallie Part 2!

August 18th, 2018


133 Amanda Gallie - President of the British Association of Dental Therapists (Pt 2)

Interview starts around 5:15

In this part 2 we continue our conversation with Amanda. We learn more about the construct of the …

**Bonus Content** New Podcast by Angelica Daksla - host of the California Tooth Fairy Podcast

August 13th, 2018



Angelica hosts a short-format seasonal podcast that gives the audience so much content in digestible, bite-sized episodes! Angelica is a practicing hygienist and wants to help others …

132 Amanda Gallie - President of the British Association of Dental Therapists (Pt 1)

August 10th, 2018


132 Amanda Gallie - President of the British Association of Dental Therapists (Pt 1)

Interview starts around 8:30

In this episode we breakdown the …

**BONUS** Wanna Join ATOTH On A Mission Trip?

August 7th, 2018


Here are the important things you need to know about this mission trip:

1) Dominican Republic - you will need a passport
2) $350 is YOUR WHOLE …

131 International Hygienist (of Mystery?) with Carmen Lanoway, RDH

August 5th, 2018


Interview starts around minute 10


In this episode we get a chance to catch up with Carmen Lanoway, RDH. She is a practicing hygienist in Germany currently but is licensed and from Canada. We discuss so many …

130 Catching up with Jasmin Haley!

July 29th, 2018


In this episode, we catch up with one of our favorite people ever, Jasmin Haley! Jasmin is the founder/owner of Beyond the Prophy and Momgienists, a …

129 Sarah Murray MA, Dip DH, Dip DT, FHEA

July 21st, 2018


Welcome Sarah Murray to the podcast! Sarah is a UK based hygienist. In this episode we talk about the differences in education requirements, and dental therapy, how she met the Queen, and oh so much more! Read her …

**Bonus** Listener Kate explains how her life has changed!

July 15th, 2018


We have, in this episode, one of our friends and an avid listener, Kate. Her story begins like most of ours, working away trying to improve peoples …

128 Nutrition and Wellness with Machell Hudson, RDH

July 13th, 2018


Ep 128

Interview starts minute 6ish

Machell Hudson, RDH, is the Director of Oral/Systemic Wellness for Granbury Dental Center and a Hygiene …

127 Ergonomics with Cindy Purdy, RDH!

July 7th, 2018


127 Ergonomics with Cindy Purdy

Interview starts around minute 20

Well this episode starts off with a bang, Michelle rants about a Facebook post, Andrew calls her stupid, then mayhem ensues. After which we have a nice …

126 A new periodontal classification system and EuroPerio recap!

June 30th, 2018


Michelle and Andrew spent last week in Amsterdam attending EuroPerio9, one of the worlds leading conferences on periodontology! It was a trip to be …

125 Rafael Rondon, RDH - Practice Management and DSOs

June 22nd, 2018


Interview starts around 5:30

Andrew and Rafael talk about the DSO (Dental Support Organization) that Rafael works with. Rafael had invited Andrew (actually Andrew invited himself) over to Rafael’s house for dinner and …

124 - Dr. Robert Vogel, DDS Unique Dental Codes!

June 16th, 2018


Interview starts at 9:34

Dr Vogel joins us on AToTH to share about his business model and how we can be better about coding. He loves his implant …

123 - Lasers in Dentistry pt 2 with Nicole Fortune

June 9th, 2018


Episode 123 - Lasers in Dentistry pt 2 with Nicole Fortune

Interview begins at 6:45

In this episode we build upon our knowledge from last episode. …

122 Intro to Dental Lasers with Jeanette Miranda, RDH!

June 2nd, 2018


122 Jeanette Miranda talks Lasers in Dentistry!

Interview begins around minute - 6:10

In this episode we learn the foundational principals of lasers in dentistry.

Jeanette Miranda is a practicing hygienist in South …

121 - How recall systems keep you employed!

May 26th, 2018


121 How recall systems keep you employed!

Interview starts around minute 15

Today’s interview is with Cory Pinegar, CEO of Callforce - a company that takes the hassle out of getting your overdue patients back into your …

120 Mentorship Roundtable

May 19th, 2018


120 Mentorship Roundtable

Interview starts at minute 8:40

This episode discusses the importance of mentorship and the general profession of dental hygiene in alternative settings. We also tackle social media etiquette …

119 - Airflow Biofilm Management with Glycine/Air Polishing Roundtable

May 12th, 2018


Today, on this episode, we have Shianne and Lindsay. Both are hygienists who work for our buddy Dr. Bilal Saib at Chapel Hill Advanced Dentistry. They share their experiences and advice working with Glycine …

118 Dr. Alan Mead talks Addiction and Substance Abuse

May 4th, 2018


Dr Alan Mead

Interview starts around minute 13

In this episode we welcome Dr. Alan Mead of The Dental Hacks Podcast and also his solo podcast, the …

117 Dr. Joshua Wren, DMD talks Pediatric Dentistry!

April 27th, 2018


Interview Starts at 5:00

Dr. Joshua Wren, DMD is a board-certified pediatric dentist who has a passion for learning and discovering the best ways to treat his patients. He enjoys sharing that information with anyone who …

116 - Amber Riley, RDH, MS Returns to the Podcast!

April 21st, 2018


In what is turning out to be an annual event at Chicago Midwinter, Amber returns to the podcast with some more great information for us! She has a quick wit, is kind and compassionate, and extremely intelligent!

This …

115 JoAnn Gurenlian! - Come on, does she even need a tagline!?

April 13th, 2018


Interview starts around minute 14:40

JoAnn Gurenlian is an amazing human being and it was truly our pleasure to have her on. JoAnn has served the …

114 Dr Uche Odiatu Talks Gut Heath!

April 8th, 2018


114 Uche Odiatu talks Gut Health

Interview starts around minute 7

In this episode, Dr Odiatu helps us understand the basics of gut health and the microbiome in our body. We learn how to interpret the information thats …

113 Dr. Luiz Gonzaga - A Professional Look at Fixed Prosthetics!

March 30th, 2018


Interview starts at minute - 12:40

This episode is fantastic! We spend our time talking about the basics of prosthodontics and move into how that …

Bonus Episode - SWYP Dental!

March 26th, 2018


In this bonus episode, we highlight the new dental app called SWYP. Its an aggregator of content (news, articles, publications, podcasts etc), it has discussion forums, a marketplace and so much more! Its customizable …

112 Eva Grayzel - Storyteller and Oral Cancer Screening Expert!

March 23rd, 2018


Eva Grayzel

Interview Starts at minute 11:23

Eva is a survivor of oral cancer. She was at the peak of her career as a professional storyteller when she developed a sore on her tongue. A misdiagnosis occurred and led to …

111 Dr. Becky Lang - Motivational Interviewing for the Dental Professional

March 16th, 2018


Ep 111 Dr. Rebecca (Becky) Lang, RDH, EdD talks to us about motivational interviewing.

Interview starts at minute - 13:35

In this episode, we talk about why motivational interviewing is important and what the beginner’s …

110 - New Dental Tech with Dr. Bryan Laskin, DDS!

March 9th, 2018


Interview starts about minute 12:30

Come listen to Dr. Bryan Laskin, DDS. Dr Laskin has been working on building out software to make our lives easier as clinicians. Using existing hardware (iPads, Apple Watches, …

109 Rachel Teel Wall, RDH - How to Have Nice Things in Hygiene!

March 4th, 2018


Ep 109 How to Have the Nice Things in Hygiene, Through Profitable Business Practices with Rachel Teel Wall RDH from Inspired Hygiene!

Guest Co-host Trisha O’Hehir joins the podcast.

Helping practices to elevate their …


February 28th, 2018



We talk about an upcoming event for professional hygienists put on by Pennwell. As most of you know, Pennwell is behind the …

108 Airway Assessment with Julia Worrall RN, CCRN and Cyndee Johnson, RDH!

February 24th, 2018


Episode 108 Cyndee and Julia teach Airway

Interview starts at 4:15

This is an episode for every clinician and every mother and father EVER!

Returning …

107 WREB Psychometricians are cool, we promise!! - With Sharon Osborn Popp Ph.D!

February 16th, 2018


We know the title sounds boring, but this is one of those episodes where, when we retire and look back on our lives, we will know we did right by so many people because of this episode. Its that good. Thank you to our …

106 Teledentistry with Brant Herman and Eden Ivie of Mouthwatch!

February 9th, 2018


Ep 106 Teledentistry

Intro - How late does a patient have to be before we reschedule?

Interview starts at Minute 11

We welcome Brant Herman from …

105 Sexism in Dentistry pt 2 - A Panel Discussion

February 2nd, 2018


This is the conclusion of this panel's discussion on Sexism and their experiences with it in dentistry. We thank our guests for doing a great job and spending that time with us and hope to have them on again soon. If …

104 Sexism in Dentistry - A Panel Discussion pt 1

January 29th, 2018


Ep 104 Sexism in Dentistry - a panel discussion

Interview starts at minute 14:00

How sick is too sick to go into work? We discuss

Nose filters for traveling or whenever dust or allergens can trigger you.

Andrew has the …

103 Sherri Lukes, RDH, MS - Talks Oral-Systemic Link and Mission Trips!

January 19th, 2018


Sherri Lukes RDH, MS - Hygienist, Educator, Writer, Consultant, Speaker and Mission Work!

Sherri Lukes joins us to talk about mission trips, oral …

102 Nicaragua 2017 with Michelle, Daniel, Linda, and Emily!

January 12th, 2018


So full disclosure - Michelle sent this to me and I havent listened to it yet except to make sure there were words actually spoken out loud and …

101 - Welcome 2018!

January 5th, 2018


No interview today. We just catch up with whats new over our little hiatus. Its a pretty good episode, give it a listen!

100 with Kara, RDH!

November 25th, 2017


We did it! We made it to 100 episodes!!

In celebration of our 100th episode, we invite back for the THIRD time our friend Kara Vavrosky, RDH!

Interview starts at minute 12:00

Kara announces her brand new project for …

99 Restorative Hygiene with Andrew and Mike Johnston

November 17th, 2017


Momgienists Takeover/Hijacking the Mic

Jasmin and Christie interview Andrew and Mike, restorative guygienists, on what its like to do expanded function!


Andrew and Jasmin celebrate their one year friendshipaversary!

98 Michael Ventriello on Dental Marketing for Hygienists!

November 10th, 2017


Ep 98 Michael Ventriello - Dental Marketing

Interview starts at - 10:50

Ventriello Communications - B2B Marketing within the dental industry

We talk about the companies he works with …

97 Lisa Stillman RDH,BS - The Worst Thing to Lose, Is our Mind!

November 4th, 2017


Ep 97 Lisa Stillman, RDH,BS

Interview starts at:11:56

Lisa began wanting to be a school teacher but was counseled to be a hygienist!

Lisa was at RDH …

96 Frances Tryon RDH - Perioscopes and Business Ownership!

October 27th, 2017


Frances and Andrew met a few years ago during a mission/ce trip in Guatemala and have been friends since! We welcome her to the podcast and discuss, among other things…

95 Kris Potts RDH, BS, FAADH Talks PRE-habilitation and Cancer!

October 20th, 2017


Ep 95 Kris Potts, RDH, BS, FAADH


Pre Interview - O’Hehir University announces the ability to transfer from OHU bachelors program to University of Minnesota if you want to go on and get a Masters Degree.

Interview …

94 Kathy Bassett, RDH - Local Anesthesia Expert!

October 14th, 2017


Ep 94 Kathy Bassett, RDH - Local Anesthesia Expert!

Interview starts at 12:16

You will learn something today… thats just something that is going to …

93 Trisha O'Hehir and Tim Ives - Degree Completion at O'Hehir University

October 5th, 2017


Episode 93 Show Notes


Interview starts at 13:23

Thoughts and prayers to the people and families associated with the tragic shooting in Las Vegas and those affected by the horrible weather patterns we have been having, …

92 Dr. Pam Maragliano-Muniz - Ethical Production with CaMBRA

September 29th, 2017


Dr Pam Maragliano Interview starts at 11:35


Former hygienist turned dentist

Lover of redbull - sugar free!


We follow her journey from dental …

91 Mary Otto - Author of "Teeth"

September 24th, 2017


Episode 91 Show Notes

Episodes starts with a recap of AAOSH -

Shout out to Lucy Conard, Jeri Freedman, Machelle with the weird spelling, and the entire state of Wisconsin

Suck it Matt Crespin

This is …

90 Ann Marie DePalma, RDH!

September 15th, 2017


Ann Marie DePalma   Interview starts at 12:05   We talk about how she got into writing and lecturing Perio practices really teach how …

89 Dovetta Johnson, Hygienist Supporter Extraordinaire!

September 9th, 2017


Dovetta Johnson

Interview at 9:22

Dovetta loves hygienists… and we ask her why!

We talk about Voco and bringing products to market. What aspects need to be looked at scientifically in order to have a 100% no recall rate.

88 Josalyn Sewell - "Children with Autism Become Adults with Autism"

September 2nd, 2017


Interview starts at 8:18

This woman does it all! A driven career woman who demonstrates a healthy work life balance. Listen to Josey as she explains her life as a mother to a son with Autism and how to find joy in life!

87 Kyle Isaacs, RDH!

August 25th, 2017


The first recording at RDH Under One Roof did NOT disappoint!

Interview starts at 29:45

Kyle starts off the episodes explaining her background and how she just quit her job!

We talk DSO’s, Homecare, grant proposals and …

86 Lysing Cells with Kim Miller, RDH!

August 17th, 2017


Kim Miller, RDH!

Booth Buzz with Premier starts at – 9:50

Interview Starts at – 22:40

Booth Buzz with Brasseler starts at – 58:45

Columnist for RDH …

85 RDH UOR 2017 Pre-game Show

August 6th, 2017


RDH UNDER ONE ROOF – The Superbowl of Hygiene Conferences

No interview today!

Congrats to Andrew’s best friend Todd and his wife Heather on their new …

84 with Comedian Carlos Rodriguez, RDH

July 28th, 2017


Andrew wasn’t able to record this week so Michelle found her some friends- new and old- and brought them on for this week’s episode.  Michelle is …

83 Does Fluoride Make Me Stupid? with Matt Crespin, RDH

July 22nd, 2017


Matt finally gets his own episode! 

Interview starts around minute 13

One of Matt’s missions is to teach and educate the people in Wisconsin (and now the world on AToTH!) on the benefits of fluoride. Evidence-based …

82 Olivia Wann RDA, JD on OSHA and HIPAA Compliance

July 17th, 2017


Interview starts around minute 18

Olivia Wann founded Modern Practice Solutions, a compliance company specializing in the dental industry, in the …

81 Angie Stone and Doug Perry return to the podcast with NEW STUFF!

July 9th, 2017


Ep. 81 Catching up with Angie Stone and Doug Perry!


Happy 4th of July everyone!

We Love Leslie

We plan an intervention for Andrew and his …

80 Free Dental CE you ask?

July 3rd, 2017


Sarah Thiel, RDH with CE Zoom

This episode has a HUGE Announcement! HUGE WE SAY!

In addition to talking to one of our favorite people, Sarah Thiel, we talk about giving out FREE CE for the podcast and what kind of …

79 The "almost" interview episode

June 25th, 2017


Welp, we did it again. Royally screwed up with things. The SD card holding the interview got shattered so we have ZERO interviews from ADHA. BUUUUUT …

78 Mary Jensen, RDH

June 18th, 2017


We love Mary! It was great to see her win her award at ADHA's Annual Conference this year. There isnt a more deserving person to win the Philips Sonicare,Pennwell Heart to Hands Award than Mary!

Special thanks to …

77 Dr. Sully Sullivan, the Millennial Dentist!

June 11th, 2017


Hey this episode is awesome! We had Dr Sullivan from The Millennial Dentist Podcast

Dr. Sullivan is …

76 Cassandra! Dental Care with Transgender Patients

June 2nd, 2017


 DISCLAIMER: Please note that Michelle and Andrew are amateurs and this information is new to the both of them. There are plenty of missteps throughout this interview. We hope that this can be a learning session for …

75 "Do you think this baby looks like me?"

May 28th, 2017


Disclaimer - This is less about dental hygiene and more about real life so if you are into the podcast because you are such a dental nerd, this one might be a harder listen! IF you are into the podcast because you like …

74 Educator Roundtable

May 22nd, 2017


Student Acceptance Protocol, Board Exams, and Calibration, oh my!

Enjoy this faculty roundtable from Chicago Midwinter 2017! We will work on doing …

73 Listener Feedback and Podcast Updates!

May 12th, 2017


In this episode we are sans interview. Michelle and Andrew talk about some of the emails, pms, and reviews they have gotten recently. They also talk about what direction the podcast is going to go in!

Michelle and …

72 Dr. Jim Hyland and Oravital!

May 6th, 2017


Dr. Jim Hyland from Toronto, Canada. Still practicing dentistry. 

Where does the bad breath originate?

We talk salivary testing, antibiotic and …

71 Kara, RDH!

April 27th, 2017


This episode explores the origin story of Kara Vavrosky who some might know as Kara, RDH! You can hear it in her voice that she loves this profession and does everything she can to uplift the more than 140,000 dental …

70 Cherie Le Penske and Mouth-Mate!

April 21st, 2017



Cherie Le Penske - CEO

Armor Dental


Mission – get patients to understand their biofilm better.

Health starts in your mouth

Ortho, OS, …

69 Dr. Tony Stefanou DMD

April 14th, 2017


Dr. Stefanou, DMD is a man with connections. He has worked hard throughout his thirty years in the dental industry to build relationships with over …

68 Evidence Based Research with Julie Frantsve-Hawley, RDH!

April 7th, 2017



While Julie began her career in dentistry as an assistant then hygienist, she took an interesting path through science and research to end up where …

67 Emily Boge RDH, MPA

March 31st, 2017


Emily Boge, RDH, MPA


Emily and her family are from Iowa and live an atypical life. While her husband’s family owns and operates a farm, Emily found her passion as an inventor and in dental hygiene. A highly educated …

66 Dr. Chris Salierno!

March 24th, 2017


Dr. Chris Salierno - Thanks for the great conversation!

Chris begins this podcast talking about the pros and cons of lecturing hung over – not from personal experience!!

Shout out to Dr. Scott Froum

Chris lectures to …

65 The Oral Systemic Connection with Dr. Bradley Bale and Dr. Tom Larkin, DDS

March 17th, 2017




Dr. Bradley Bale and Dr. Tom Larkin

AAOSH – American Academy For Oral Systemic Health

Total Health, Complete Health, the Oral Systemic Connection – Learning …

64 Dr. Grant Ritchey and Dr. Jason Luchtefeld from the Prism Podcast

March 9th, 2017


Dr. Grant Ritchey and Dr. Jason Luchtefeld from the Prism Podcast


Drs Ritchey and Luchtefeld talk how the Prism Podcast came to be. They help us figure out how to critically think. They are all around good doctors and …

63 Amber Riley, RDH Talks Forensic Dentistry!

March 4th, 2017


Amber begins the podcast telling about Mary, her inspiration for becoming a dental hygienist. She goes on to discuss her background as a candy-striper and medical exposure. Due to her observance of the individuals in …

62 Bilal Saib, The Passionate Dentist Pt 2

February 26th, 2017


Part two of our amazing conversation with the Passionate Dentist, Bilal Saib! This episode is amazing but we recorded it a while ago and I forgot all of my notes back at home instead of bringing them traveling with me …

61 Dr Bilal Saib from The Passionate Dentist Podcast! Pt 1

February 18th, 2017


Dr Bilal Saib of Chapel Hill, NC joins us at #VoD17 (Voices of Dentistry)! Dr B is host to the popular dental podcast The Passionate Dentist, give it …

60 Voices Of Dentistry Live Episode!!

February 9th, 2017


This episode is the first ever "live event" recording with Michelle and Andrew presenting on stage together. Andrew just about gives Michelle hives by changing the presenting 12 hours before they went on. Our audience …

59 Amber Talks Front Office Expectations!

February 2nd, 2017


Andrew and Amber work together in an office in Vancouver, Washington. Amber opens up about what the ideal hygienist is, how they function, and what …

58 Michelle, Cyndee, and Carrie!

January 22nd, 2017


Ep 58 is an all girls slumber party with Michelle, Cyndee Johnson and Carrie Ibbetson fueled by Mood Swings Wine.

  Listen this week as these three ladies learn more about the amazing wines from  They …

57 Michelle Audio Blogs Her Mission Trip!

January 15th, 2017


Explicit Language FYI (only a couple though!)

Andrew lies to Michelle right at the beginning… and it takes her forever to catch on. January 27th and 28th COME SEE US!

We talk about ADHA …

56 - A New Year's Episode

January 7th, 2017



Happy New Year Everyone! Please go to iTunes and Rate and Review... PLEASE!!!!!!


Andrew and Michelle talk about their individual new years …

55 Dr. Uche Odiatu Helps Us Bring in the New Year!

January 1st, 2017


We kick off this year with the LEGENDARY Dr. Uche Odiatu! We discuss with him how to bring in the New Year with setting goals for healthy living. Dr. Uche brings up a great point right at the beginning… What will you be …

54 Ben Hilger Paves Your Way To Legal Freedom!

December 25th, 2016


Ben Hilger – Bad Things Happen to Good People

Ben helps us find out where to find our legal rights! How would you like to pay a small flat fee (like …

53 Patti DiGangi, RDH!!

December 17th, 2016


We know these show-notes are lengthy... but you gotta read them people!! This is a great episode!

Patti DiGangi, RDH, BS is a vision-driven still practicing clinician that brings experience and news-participants-can-use …

52 The Best Kept Secret in Dental Hygiene with Tracy Butler, RDH!

December 9th, 2016


Wanna know how you can tell we love you? Because we brought you this episode! This is going to blow... your.... MIND!

We are talking soft and hard …

51 Karen Siebert, RDH!!

December 1st, 2016


What a great episode this was with Karen! Karen is an absolute delight to listen to. She has a passion for this profession and a lot of helpful …

50 Melissa Scott, RDH and Nicole Phillips, RDH and Young Dental!

November 25th, 2016


EPISODE FIFTY!!!!!!!!!! We cannot believe we have made FIFTY of these things! It's insane! Thanks everyone for your support and your love. Looking forward to the next fifty! Please go rate and review us on iTunes SUPER …

49 with Shavonne Healy, RDH and Jasmin Haley, RDH

November 17th, 2016


This episode barely grazed the surface of what these two amazing hygienists have to offer the world! Read below to learn more about them, or, better yet, just listen to the episode! We also have it on special authority …

48 Katie Melko, RDH!

November 10th, 2016


This is a must-listen-to episode with Katie Melko! Katie is a recently installed President of ADHA Connecticut. She tells us about her non-profit she …

47 Claire Jeong, RDH - Founder and CEO of StudentRDH Board Review Course!

November 3rd, 2016


Claire Jeong, MS, RDH, Founder and CEO

Claire is an entrepreneur who is striving to promote educational efficacy. She is a graduate of MCPHS …

46 Mark Hartley, Editor of RDH Magazine and more!

October 26th, 2016


A Tale of Two Hygienists welcomes Mark Hartley to the podcast! In this episode we begin by learning the diagnosis of Michelle's flesh eating disease! We also talk about the American Association of Dental Boards, the …

45 Dr. Uche Odiatu - Whole Body Health Pt 1

October 21st, 2016


Dr. Uche Odiatu is a dentist and health coach. He loves dentistry and loves dental hygienists. This is the first of many episodes with Dr Odiatu featuring his 7 Pillars of Health. Please enjoy this episode and reach out …

44 Debbie Z takes on Cancer!

October 15th, 2016


This episode features Debbie Zafiropoulos AKA Debbie Z! Andrew and Michelle met up with Debbie at RDH Under One Roof and talk about Debbie's main …

43 Linda Miller and Christie Bailey from PDT!

October 4th, 2016


In this episode, the first half of the episode was taped at Chicago Midwinter with Linda Miller and Christie Bailey. The second half finished up at Smiles at Sea with Linda!

Linda tells her amazing story from before she …

42. Elijah Desmond and Smiles At Sea!!

September 29th, 2016


In this episode Andrew and Michelle record FROM THE BOAT! Dental Hygienist and serious serial entrepreneur Elijah Desmond invites A Tale of Two Hygienists to join him on his CE cruise SMILE AT SEA. 

Elijah has many …

41 Uganda Mission Trip Finale!

September 20th, 2016


This is the wrap up with dental hygienists Michelle Strange and Daniel Lopez! Here are a few links for the episode:

and for the ce --->

40 Uganda Dental Mission Part 2!

September 12th, 2016


Sit back and enjoy part 2 of Dental Hygienists Michelle Strange and Daniel Lopez as they talk more about what its like to do dentistry in Uganda.

And our giveaway from …


August 29th, 2016


This is the first part of the story of hygienists Michelle Strange and Daniel Lopez as they took a trip to Uganda for a dental mission trip. While we only cover the preparation part of the trip, it is interesting to see …

37 Much Ado... part 3

July 25th, 2016


In this episode Michelle and Andrew discuss more listener feedback and questions.

Andrew introduces a possible new segment for himself with the working title "From The Web" - where Andrew finds odd things related to …

36 Carrie Ibbetson and Michelle Strange!

July 18th, 2016


In this episode Michelle is interviewed by Carrie Ibbetson on her podcast Healthy Mouth Healthy Life Podcast! Special thanks to Carrie for giving us her .mp3 file!!

Carrie is a dear friend of ours and we appreciate her …

35 Michelle Edits Her First Podcast!

July 13th, 2016


THE LAST QUESTION AND ANSWER IS FINALLY REVEALED! If you want to win FREE tuition for SMILES AT SEA in September, write down the 4th answer and …

34 Much Ado About Nothing pt 2

July 8th, 2016



In this episode we address some comments and questions from listeners (Shout out to Carla!). Andrew is at Podcast Movement, a podcast conference in …

33 Daniel Lopez, RDH!

July 5th, 2016


Stay tuned after the end music to find out what Michelle's real name is! WARNING - Michelle says some no-no words! 

Also, Tune in for episode 34 for CLUE NUMBER 3 to WIN FREE TUITION FOR SMILES AT SEA!

Michelle looks …

32 Much Ado About Nothing Pt 1

June 30th, 2016


In this episode we discuss:

Andrew quits drinking energy drinks... and it shows in his performance

Michelle is in Vegas at the Western Society of …

31 with ADHA Leadership!

June 27th, 2016


This episode was a very special one. While at ADHA CLL2016 in Pittsburgh, Andrew had the opportunity to interview the current and future leadership of ADHA. First and foremost, a special thanks to District 7 Trustee …

30 Michelle Goes to Boston

June 20th, 2016


Stuff and Things - Its late and im tired and I lost my edits half way through the first time and i got mad at the computer and software so I put it off until later but now its later and I dont want to do it anymore so …

29 Michele LaBasi Mini Episode!

June 13th, 2016


Andrew and Michele discuss Humanitarian Trips, Career Fusion, Toastmasters International and much much more. Michele will join us again at RDH Under …

28 Andrew and Michelle Do ADHA

June 13th, 2016


In this episode we do a TON of shout outs.. Among them are our new friends Ashley, Michele, Missy, Rachel, implied shout out to Edie even though we didnt say her name. Also a shout out to our future sponsors of the show …

27 How to Pass the Dental Hygiene Board Exam

June 6th, 2016


In this episode we talk about Andrew's experience and advice as a dental hygiene board examiner. If you have more questions about this episode, feel free to send us a facebook message and we can add it to a future show.

26 Andre Shirdan and The C.R.E.W. Process

May 30th, 2016


In this amazing episode we welcome Andre Shirdan! Andre has a background in retail and has used his training and experience to create processes and workflows for hygienists to be more effective! You can learn more about …

25 Dr. Kim Daxon Loves Hygienists and the Dawson Academy!

May 23rd, 2016


In this episode we have the elusive and rare DENTIST as a guest! Dr. Kim Daxon representing the Dawson Academy and talks with Michelle about …

24 Myofunctional Therapy with Joy Moeller, RDH!

May 16th, 2016


Michelle and Joy sit down to discuss all things myofunctional therapy. You couldnt find a more qualified person to discuss dental hygiene than …

Oreillys Auto Parts Mixdown 1

May 11th, 2016


Michelle and Andrew present this bonus episode about podcasts they enjoy. You will be able to find some good dental podcast ideas or podcasts in general to listen to while you are driving, working out, cleaning, walking …


May 9th, 2016


Michelle and Andrew visit on-location with "The Grannies" from the popular dental-friendly Ice Chips Candy! Granny Bev and Granny Charlotte welcomed …

22 "The Great Perio Debate"

May 2nd, 2016


In this episode:

Andrew and Michelle argue about whats perio and whats not

Andrew is racist and sexist in the first 3 minutes of the show!

Shout out to listeners Kelly and Alex from Washington State!

We discuss the new …

21 Susan Wingrove, RDH!

April 21st, 2016


Wow. Just. Wow! It was our pleasure to be able to interview the great Susan Wingrove. This episode has it all, well almost. If you want it all, attend one of her seminars (search on 

BONUS EPISODE! How to get started in Public Speaking

April 17th, 2016


Michelle and Andrew answer a question from a listener about their start in public speaking. Please enjoy the episode and write us more questions to answer for you! Thank you listeners, we love you and your engagement …

20 Cyndee Johnson, RDH!

April 13th, 2016


Michelle and Andrew are back together in person in WASHINGTON STATE!! We talk about our tour of the Ice Chips factory and the dangers that are found lurking around every corner in Tacoma, WA. 

For the interview, we …

19 Daniel Lopez and Linda Douglas visit the podcast!

April 6th, 2016


This episode starts with Andrew and Michelle stupidly walking on the racial tightrope and just managing not to offend (we hope). We talk about Townie Meeting and how great it is.

The interview is with Linda Douglas, RDH …

18 Cindy Kleiman, RDH!

March 28th, 2016


Ill fill in stuff here for sure...

17 Eileen Morrissey, RDH!

March 21st, 2016


Eileen Morrissey is very accomplished, but at one point she LEFT DENTISTRY! Realizing how awesome our profession was, she came back, new and improved. Eileen shares her story and much more! If you have ever thought of …

16 Noel Kelsch, RDH

March 14th, 2016


ATOTH welcomes Noel Kelsch to the show! Noel is a well known speaker and advocate for her patients. Sometimes she is considered "controversial" by …

15 Debora Carrier, RDH!

March 7th, 2016


A Tale of Two Hygienists welcomes Debora Carrier, Dental Hygienist, Founder, and CEO of Twice as Nice Uniforms! We met up at Chicago Midwinter and learned so much about this RDH turned entrepreneur. Twice as Nice …

14 Sarah Thiel, RDH and CE Zoom!

February 29th, 2016


Michelle and Andrew head over to Chicago - Michelle for work with Tepe and Andrew for Chicago Midwinter. It was the first time in almost the year that we've known each other that we were in the same place at the same …

13 Student Roundtable! Part 1

February 24th, 2016


Michelle and Andrew relive the hellish nightmare that is being a dental hygiene student with 4 awesome future hygienists! We apologize (again!) for …

12 with Yva Khalil!

February 15th, 2016


Michelle is spending time at the Miami meeting of the ICOI and decided to find some amazing presenters to talk on our podcast! She was able to wrangle Canadian Yva Khalil who is a wealth of knowledge. She has done it …

11 Daniel Hulbert!

February 7th, 2016


Andrew sits down with long-time best friend Daniel Hulbert! The dental hygiene profession was recently under attack from social media, downplaying …

10 "Move over, Chlorhexidine!" with Kristin GoodFellow, RDH

February 1st, 2016


Episode 10 is here! We have fan of the podcast, Kristin Goodfellow on the show and she brought something different! Oracare is alternative approach to Chlorhexidine Gluconate rinses that can be used for every reason we …

9 Getting Honest with Kristine Hodsdon, RDH MSEC

January 25th, 2016


We are excited to finally have Kristine Hodsdon, RDH on the show! Kristine is an executive coach and dental influencer. She speaks and consults on an …

8 Michelle Goes to Nicaragua!

January 19th, 2016


Ep 8

Michelle goes on a dental mission trip to Nicaragua. While there she interviews fellow volunteers and compiled an amazing experience into one …

7 Guygienist Roundtable!

January 11th, 2016


WARNING: EXPLICIT CONTENT! This episode gets real with guygienists Mark Frias, Daniel Lopez, Rafael Rondon, and Andrew Johnston with special guest moderator Michelle Strange. We talk about why dental hygiene is a great …

6 With Sandy Lee

January 3rd, 2016


We get lighthearted with Sandy Lee, RDH! We talk first of Sandy's facebook page she started that has almost 5000 members - Lighthearted RDH Its a closed page but …

5 Angie Stone RDH, BS - Hylife LLC

December 21st, 2015


In this episode we had an amazing discussion with dental hygienist, Angie Stone, RDH, BS! We discussed all things Xylitol - Xlear and Spry. Angie …

4 A Pediatric Roundtable!

December 14th, 2015


In this special episode, Andrew goes solo while Michelle is out serving the good people of Nicaragua on a dental mission trip! Our guests for the …

3 Resume and Job Search with Doug Perry

December 7th, 2015


This episode has it all. Excellent resume and job search tips from our friend Doug Perry. Learn more at We also discuss "The …

2 Trisha O'Hehir

November 23rd, 2015


Michelle and Andrew welcome iconic dental hygienist, Trisha O'Hehir, RDH to the podcast. We have a great discussion including talk about myofunctional therapy and Michelle's mouth problems!

1 A Tale of Two Hygienists with Michelle and Andrew

November 23rd, 2015


The first episode of the Off The Cusp Podcast (now A Tale of Two Hygienists) explains who we are and what we hope to achieve with the podcast. You will get a small glimpse of our chatty style and a peek into our …

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