89 EpisodesProduced by WNYC Studios

BFF Kathy Tu and Tobin Low are super queer, super fun and ready to take over your podcast feed. Join them for provocative stories and frank conversations about the LGBTQ experience today. Because everyone’s a little bit gay. WNYC Studios is a listener-supported producer of other podcasts including R… read more

89 Episodes | 2017 - 2019

Desiree Akhavan's The Bisexual

April 22nd, 2019


Desiree Akhavan—filmmaker, creator, and star of The Bisexual—talks about being the rule-breaker of her family, and why she trolled her brother with …

The Cowboy Of The West Village

April 15th, 2019


The story of Storme DeLarverie, a true American hero.

— Storme DeLarverie’s obituary in The New York Times.

The Nod is hosted by Brittany Luse and Eric Eddings. It's produced by Kate Parkinson-Morgan and James T. …

Does It Bring You Joy?

April 8th, 2019


Tobin realizes he’s been carrying around an insecurity since he was a teenager.

Dr. Christie Block is a Speech-Language Pathologist based in New …

Masha Gessen's Y2K

April 1st, 2019


A very Russian love story on the brink of Y2K.

— Dan Taberski hosts the show, Surviving Y2K, and previously hosted Missing Richard Simmons. Both shows are part of the Headlong Podcast. The third season of Headlong …

David and Dominique

March 25th, 2019


David and Dominique have something in common.

Special thanks to Krishna Stone at Gay Men's Health Crisis, an HIV/AIDS prevention, care, and advocacy organization in New York. 

Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom.

A Private Life

March 18th, 2019


Nino and Drew kept their relationship a secret for more than 40 years. And then, they decided to do something that forced them into the spotlight.

This is Love is a show that explores perseverance, obsession, and what …

The Golden Queers

March 8th, 2019


What is retirement like when there's been a lifetime of discrimination and added costs, and what do we do about it?

Queer Money Matters is Nancy's series about the straight economy and how queer people navigate it.

Dude, Where’s My Coverage?

March 7th, 2019


Even if you have insurance, being queer can be a barrier to getting the healthcare you need.

Queer Money Matters is Nancy's series about the straight economy and how queer people navigate it.

Music in this episode by …

For Richer, For Poorer

March 6th, 2019


Marriage equality meant more dollars in the bank for lots of queer people. But what if getting married goes against your identity or is simply not …

The Gayly Grind

March 5th, 2019


From discrimination in the hiring process to a wage gap to a patchwork of legal protections, there are road blocks at every stage of our career.

Queer Money Matters is Nancy's series about the straight economy and how …

Babies and Bills

March 4th, 2019


When you’re queer and you want to add a kid to your family, things get complicated—and expensive—really quickly.

Queer Money Matters is Nancy's series about the straight economy and how queer people navigate it.

Music …

Queer Money Fear$

February 25th, 2019


The economy is built for cisgender, heterosexual people. We're exploring the financial hurdles queer people face and how we navigate them. It's …

The Word 'Queer'

February 18th, 2019


Strange or obtuse; a stinging homophobic slur; a radical political rejection of normativity; a broad term encompassing every and any variation on …

The Case of the Cutoffs

February 11th, 2019


Eight years ago, Ben found a pair of cutoff jean shorts mounted in a shadowbox. Now, he's on a search for the truth.

— Ben Riskin quit his law firm four years ago and embarked on a career in podcasting. Ben recently …

Phillip Picardi: Out With the Old

February 4th, 2019


Phillip Picardi joins Nancy to talk about his first job at McDonald's, his recent job as Anna Wintour's protégé, and his new job as editor-in-chief of Out Magazine.

— Phillip Picardi is the editor-in-chief at Out …

The League of Extraordinary Trolls

January 28th, 2019


An elite unit of trolls is engaged in an existential battle against hate speech on the internet. This is their story.

This episode originally aired …

Nancy Takes the Stage

January 21st, 2019


Tobin and Kathy have sweated through a few live shows, and now it's time to share a few of them with the world.

— Jes Tom (they/them) is a weird nonbinary queer Asian-American radical cyborg stand up comic. They …

Love Song

January 14th, 2019


Myosha Smith stopped speaking to her brother Joe after he handled her coming out poorly. Realizing his mistake, Joe decided to try to win his sister back with a song.

— Daniel A. Gross is a writer, reporter, and radio …

Mr. LA Leather

January 7th, 2019


Every year, contestants spend months working on their charisma, memorizing speeches, and getting their show-stopping outfits ready to win the sash. No, this is not Miss America...this is Mr. Los Angeles Leather.

— James …

A Gaggle Resolution

December 31st, 2018


Nancy staged a friend-tervention for Joe Rodriguez. Will finding your gaggle be your resolution for the new year?

And if you want to broaden your …

God + The Gays

December 24th, 2018


Growing up, Phoebe was a Jesus kid. In college, after Tinder-swiping her way to gayness, she comes out to Christians and hopes that they’ll accept …

You Couldn't Say It Was Wrong

December 17th, 2018


A nun leaves her small town home in Illinois and comes to the West Village of ‘80s New she can learn how to care for patients dying of …

Bowen Yang Was Fooled by Grey's Anatomy

December 10th, 2018


Bowen Yang drops by the studio to talk to Tobin and Kathy about Sandra Oh, Saturday Night Live, and bad representation.

— Bowen Yang is a comedian, producer, and formerly mediocre chemistry major based in Brooklyn, NY. …

Coming Out, Coming Forward

December 3rd, 2018


When he was a young teenager, Luke realized he had to speak up—about who he was and what had happened to him. (Warning: this episode discusses …

X & Y

November 26th, 2018


This week, Nancy is featuring an episode of Radiolab Presents: Gonads.

A lot of us understand biological sex with a pretty fateful underpinning: if …

I've Been Meaning to Tell You...

November 19th, 2018


We asked you to share with us the things you've been meaning to tell someone. This is what happened next.

To see some of the tips and advice from the episode, or if you want to join our "I've Been Meaning To Tell …

Alexandra Billings Won't Stay Quiet Anymore

November 13th, 2018


Alexandra Billings, who plays Davina on Transparent, says she believes Jeffrey Tambor's accusers — and feels complicit for not speaking up earlier.

— Alexandra Billings is an actor and singer. She recently appeared on …

Jill Soloway's 'Transparent' Reckoning

November 12th, 2018


Transparent creator Jill Soloway on the allegations against Jeffrey Tambor and what's next for the groundbreaking Amazon series.

— Jill Soloway is …

Emma Gonzalez Wants You to Vote

November 5th, 2018


Midterm elections are coming up, and March For Our Lives activists Emma Gonzalez and Bria Smith traveled the country registering voters.

— Emma Gonzalez is an activist and advocate with March For Our Lives.

— Bria Smith

Definitely, Maybe

October 29th, 2018


To win in Massachusetts, trans activists have adopted a counterintuitive strategy: leaning into the worst things their opponents say about them.

We Can't Be Erased

October 26th, 2018

It's been a tough week of news, and we asked our trans and gender non-conforming listeners: What do you want cisgender people to know?

If you, or someone you know, are looking for resources (or for organizations to …

The First Queer Woman in Congress

October 22nd, 2018


Note: As we were setting this episode to "publish," news came down about the Trump administration’s push to narrow the definition of gender and essentially erasing trans people. It’s fucked up. We are currently working …

You've Been Meaning To Tell Us

October 15th, 2018


You've all had a lot you've been meaning to say. Plus, a favorite story from the Nancy archives.

If you want to join our "I've Been Meaning To Tell You..." Project, head to

— Peter Bresnan is a 

Where We Were Then, Where We Are Now

October 8th, 2018


The 20 years since Matthew Shepard's death have been transformative for his mother, Judy. Plus: we talk to Samira Wiley, who appeared in an anniversary production of The Laramie Project.

— Judy Shepard is president of …

Closest I Get

October 1st, 2018


Kathy always thought her favorite singer-songwriter was working through something in her songs. It turns out she was.

— Katie Herzig is a Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter based in Nashville. Her latest albums are 

Perfect Son

September 24th, 2018


Jason Kim didn’t talk to his dad very much. But all that changed three years ago, when he got a call that upended their entire relationship.

— Jason Kim is a screenwriter, playwright, and librettist. He's written for …

Nancy is back for Season 4!

September 20th, 2018


Every Monday, stories and conversations about the LGBTQ community. New episodes start September 24.

Five Simple Steps

June 29th, 2018


Traveling to Taiwan with her mom, Kathy imagines the life she might have lived had her family stayed.

Kathy's mom previously appeared on Nancy in the episodes "Hello hello" and "Kathy's Mom is Uncomfortable With All …

Cumming to America

June 24th, 2018


Alan Cumming, who starred as the emcee in the Broadway classic "Cabaret," returns to the stage with a cabaret act called "Legal Immigrant." It's …

Take the Long Way Home

June 17th, 2018


Queer Eye superfan Dennis Low (aka Tobin's Dad) returns to Nancy to chat about the Netflix reboot of the series. Queer Eye's second season came out on Friday.

Katie Schlechter is a freelance journalist based in Mexico …

Peppermint 2020

June 10th, 2018


Tobin is on a quest to convince his coworkers that RuPaul's Drag Race is more than meets the eye. With expert help from Mathew Rodriguez and …

Cameron Esposito is Reclaiming Rape Jokes

June 7th, 2018


Content warning: This episode discusses sexual assault.

Most jokes about rape are terrible. But in a new special, comedian Cameron Esposito is using …

Poor Unfortunate Souls

June 3rd, 2018


Everybody loves a hero. But villains can be much more interesting. 

Meredith Talusan is the Executive Editor at Them. She wrote an essay about trans villains in film for BuzzFeed.

Dan Kois and Isaac Butler are co-authors …

We Can Be Friends

May 27th, 2018


Nancy's "How to Get a Gaggle" project gave listeners four weeks of challenges toward making new friends. This week on the show, we check in on how it all went.

You can still sign up for the Gaggle project - you'll get …

You're Not a 'Bad Gay'

May 20th, 2018


John Paul Brammer wrote the column "Hola Papi" for Into; he's now a staff writer at Them. Want advice from Nancy? Email your question (ideally as a …

DilDOs and DilDON'Ts

May 13th, 2018


Sex toys can be about more than just pleasure. For queer people, they're often a vital part of figuring yourself out.

Gabe Gonzalez is a comedian and writer. Buck Angel is a trans advocate and sex toy designer. Special …

The Rowan County Clerk

May 6th, 2018


Kim Davis denied David Ermold a marriage license three times. Now he's running to replace her.

Original music by Jeremy Bloom with additional music …

Michelle Buteau Is Straight But We Love Her Anyway

May 1st, 2018


Michelle Buteau is the host of Late Night Whenever, the newest podcast from WNYC Studios. This episode features comedian Matteo Lane and actor Nico …

Shamir Bailey Hates Your Favorite Shamir Song

April 29th, 2018


Shamir Bailey is a queer, Philadelphia-based musician. His albums include RatchetHopeRevelations, and Resolution.

While he was in the studio, we …

Gaggle Update: We're Here to Make Friends

April 25th, 2018


Our month-long "How to Get a Gaggle" project is just getting started! Today we're checking in on what participants are looking for and how they're doing.

Share your own stories! Email a voice memo to 


April 22nd, 2018


Once upon a time, Kai Wright saw a movie called Punks. A romantic comedy about black gay men, it was like nothing he'd ever seen before. But then it disappeared.

Kai Wright is editor and host of WNYC’s Narrative Unit …

A Gaggle for Me

April 15th, 2018


In our season three premiere, Nancy stages a friend-tervention for Joe Rodriguez. Plus, we launch our new How to Get a Gaggle project!

Special thanks to Fran Tirado of the podcast Food 4 Thot, Eric Sosa at C'mon …

Tobin. Kathy. Season Three!

April 12th, 2018


Nancy's back with a whole new season of stories and conversations about the queer experience today. All-new episodes starting Sunday, April 15.

Return to Ring of Keys

December 3rd, 2017


Sarah Lu's first glimpse at life as a queer adult came while visiting Maura Koutoujian's general store back when she was a kid. Years later, Sarah …

Kathy's Mom is Uncomfortable With All This

November 19th, 2017


Kathy's mom didn't expect anyone would actually listen to her the first time Kathy recorded their conversation. And she's still not particularly …

Lena Waithe's Superpowers

November 12th, 2017


We first spoke with Lena Waithe just ahead of Master of None's second season, which featured the groundbreaking episode "Thanksgiving." Kathy checked back in shortly after Lena won an Emmy for writing that episode.


Out at Work

October 29th, 2017


Nearly 3,000 of you told us about your experiences being queer on the job. And we learned it's rarely as simple as "in" or "out." Visit 

This Awful Side of Me

October 22nd, 2017


You don't accept it or you don't understand it?

Lewis Wallace is a magazine editor and radio producer in North Carolina. Liza Yeager is a senior at …

Absence Of

October 15th, 2017


You don't know what you don't know.

Jordan Crucchiola is an associate editor at Vulture, where this spring she wrote "An Asexual's Defense of Jughead …

Tegan & Sara & Abby & Josh

October 8th, 2017


Sibling relationships can be tricky.

Tegan & Sara are about to hit the road for "The Con X: Tour," which marks the 10th anniversary of their …

Oliver Sipple

October 3rd, 2017


On Sept. 22, 1975, Oliver Sipple went for a walk. The rest is history.

Latif Nasser is the director of research at Radiolab. Tracie Hunte is a …

Different in Two Ways

October 1st, 2017


Ryan Haddad is a writer and actor with a one-man show about hooking up, dating, and intimacy. He also has cerebral palsy. Please don't call him inspirational.

Ryan Haddad  is a New York-based writer and performer. His …

Will and Grace Are Back! (But Should They Be?)

September 28th, 2017


The world's changed since the groundbreaking sitcom went off the air. Eleven years later, does Will & Grace still have something to say?

Alex Jung

Somewhat Out

September 24th, 2017


Chirlane McCray, New York City's first lady, spoke to us about the new NYC Unity Project. Her 1979 essay in Essence is called "I Am A Lesbian." 

Rich Bellis is an associate editor at Fast Company, where he covers the …

I See You, I Love You

September 17th, 2017


If you don't see something, say something.

Gaby Dunn and Allison Raskin produce a YouTube series called Just Between Us. They have a new YA book called "I Hate Everyone But You." Vivek Shraya is the author of "The Boy …

Does Your Boss Know You're Gay?

September 10th, 2017


Twenty-eight states lack employment protections for LGBT people. And what federal protections do exist are under new attack.

This episode is part of our Out at Work series. Take our quick survey to tell us about your …

Multiple Lesbians in Any Scenario

September 3rd, 2017


The L Word is a soap opera, and maybe not even a particularly good one at that. But it's also essential viewing for queer women.

Cameron Esposito is …

My Brother and Me

August 27th, 2017


Nore Davis tells jokes about his brother, Khalil, being transgender. But they've never really just sat down to talk about it. Plus: Patti Harrison responds to the president.

Nore Davis is a comedian. You can listen to …

The Pentagon's Secret Gaggle of Gays

August 22nd, 2017


Even after "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was repealed, the military wasn't an easy place to be out.

Audrey Quinn, a WNYC health reporter, reported and produced this story. Special thanks to Alex Wagner, Tarak Shah, Todd …

The Swimsuit Issue

August 20th, 2017


Thanks for the invite, but Tobin's going to skip your pool party.

Sabri Ben-Achour is a senior reporter for MarketplaceJames T. Green is a producer …

Nancy's Back

August 17th, 2017


Your friendly neighborhood LGBTQ podcast is back for season 2. Kathy’s dating, Tobin’s at the beach, and just to make sure this trailer lands up high …

RuPaul Wants Naked People and Big, Fat Asses

July 30th, 2017


RuPaul navigates performance art with Broad City's Abbi Jacobson in the new WNYC Studios and MoMA podcast A Piece of Work.

Nancy returns for season …

Let's Talk About Trump's Trans Ban

July 27th, 2017


An estimated 15,000 trans people currently serve in the U.S. military. We spoke with Jordan Blisk, a former senior airman in the U.S. Air Force …

Q is Growing Up

July 16th, 2017


Q Daily is an 11-year-old trans boy. With puberty looming, he and his family have big decisions to make.

Yasmeen Khan is a reporter covering …

Kathy Goes to Camp

June 25th, 2017


Maybe don't overthink this one.

— A-Camp is an annual summer camp for queer women organized by the website Autostraddle.

Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with guitar performance by Hannis Brown. Sign up for our newsletter

It's Really You

June 18th, 2017


Sometimes when you speak up, the world answers.

— Gavin Grimm is a transgender rights activist suing his school district in federal court. The Vice …

Everything Changed

June 11th, 2017


The shooting at Pulse claimed 49 lives. Orlando hasn’t been the same since. 

Sign up for our newsletter and follow Nancy on Facebook and Twitter. …

You've Told Me This Before

June 4th, 2017


— Asia Kate Dillon’s role on “Billions” helped them understand a non-binary gender identity.

— Tina Healy comes out as trans over and over again. Her …

Dear Nancy

May 28th, 2017


We've got mail.

Mara Wilson is a former child actor and the author of "Where Am I Now?: True Stories of Girlhood and Accidental Fame." Erin McKeown is a musician, writer and producer.

Sign up for our newsletter and …

Thank You for Being a Friend

May 21st, 2017


Traveled down the road and back again. Your heart is true, you’re a pal and a confidante. Join us for a trip to Florida, with special guests Rufus Wainwright, Saeed Jones and the ghost of Bea Arthur.

— Rufus Wainwright

The Coolest Lesbian Ever

May 16th, 2017


We talk to Lena Waithe, the scene-stealing BFF on Master of None.

Follow Nancy on Facebook and Twitter and sign up for our newsletter at 

Fear of Being Butch

May 14th, 2017


There’s no shame in asking for a ‘90s boy band haircut.

— Production help from Cathy Wong, Tommy Bazarian, and Rachel Matlow. 

— Khane Kutzwell's barber shop is Camera Ready Kutz

— Thanks to the many people helped …

Here's What It's Like

May 7th, 2017


David and Dominique have something in common.

Special thanks to Krishna Stone at Gay Men's Health Crisis, an HIV/AIDS prevention, care, and advocacy …

There Are No Gay Wizards

April 30th, 2017


Albus Dumbledore isn't gay, no matter what J.K. Rowling says. But that doesn't mean the "Harry Potter" books aren't incredibly queer.

— Matt Collette …

The Elephant in the Room

April 23rd, 2017


Gay Republicans say they’ve got Trump on speed dial. Is he picking up the phone?

— This episode is a co-production with BuzzFeed News.

— Dominic …

I Had No Idea

April 16th, 2017


We were in a relationship?

— Peter Bresnan is a radio producer in New York.

— Shakina Nayfack was accompanied by pianist and composer Julianne Wick …

Like Two Ken Dolls Being Smashed Together

April 10th, 2017


When sex ed doesn't cover it, you've got to figure stuff out on your own.

— Tobin looks for "the first Asian top."

— Sarah Lu reconnects with a woman …

Hello, Hello

April 9th, 2017


Come out. Repeat. Record.

— Kathy has come out to her mom over and over again. This time she wants to know her mom understands.

— Tobin's dad gets …

Nancy: It's a Podcast, Not a Person

April 4th, 2017


BFFs Kathy Tu and Tobin Low are super queer, super fun and ready to take over your podcast feed. Join them for provocative stories and frank conversations about the LGBTQ experience today. Coming out April 9.

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