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HumaNature explores where humans and our habitat meet. You'll hear real stories about human experiences in nature. Along the way, we’ll meet people whose encounters help us reflect on our own place in the natural world.

124 Episodes | 2015 - 2023

Episode 97: Chekhov’s Bear Spray

March 8th, 2023


Kirk Speckhals spent most of his summers in Wyoming mountain biking. He lives in Jackson Hole and always felt comfortable venturing into bear …

Episode 96: Reggie the Alligator

March 1st, 2023


In the early 2000’s Los Angeles became obsessed with a new celebrity – a six foot alligator named Reggie. And when city officials set out to capture him, Reggie went on the lam. 

Episode 95: Close Encounters Of The Wild Kind III

June 16th, 2021


It's late spring and animals are on the move. Sometimes their paths cross with people. For our last episode of the season, here are two stories…this time from the deep.

Episode 94: Surfing With Jason

May 26th, 2021


Justin Murray and his brother Jason spent their childhoods in Florida. They did everything together: fishing, surfing, making their own surfboards. …

Episode 93: Reaching Rob's Roadhouse

May 5th, 2021


Greg Mills and his best friend Rob adventured together in the Alaska wilderness. Their dream was to run the Iditarod Trail Invitational Trail together. A wild river seemed to present an insurmountable obstacle. Despite …

Episode 92: Fireline

April 14th, 2021


Introducing Montana Public Radio's new podcast, Fireline. When Lily Clarke arrived at the August Complex Fire, it was a fire of sensational size. The blaze eventually burned more than 1 million acres, becoming the …

Episode 91: Meeting A King

March 26th, 2021


Shermin de Silva was an elephant researcher looking for a sign. Then she met a king.

Episode 90: These Boots Were Made For Hiking

March 3rd, 2021


Wyn Wiley thought they had to pass for straight, even in their beloved outdoors. But then a special pair of boots came into their life.

Episode 89: Beyond The Court 

February 10th, 2021


Damen Bell-Holter faced a lot of trauma growing up in his small village in Alaska. He formed a goal to play professional basketball. But reaching for …

Episode 88: From One Glowworm To Another

January 21st, 2021


How has your relationship with nature changed during the pandemic? The HumaNature community weighs in.

Bonus Episode: Ten Steps

January 6th, 2021


We're on a holiday break until January 20. In the meantime, here's a dramatic story from the archives. In December 2016, Karen Klein got trapped in a …

Episode 87: 'Have I Had My Last Good Oyster?'

December 23rd, 2020


HumaNature's taking a holiday break. We'll be back with a fresh new episode on January 20. In the meantime, we'd like to introduce you to Life Raft, …

Episode 86: A Vegan's Guide To Eating Chicken

December 9th, 2020


Muyambi loved biking, so when his friends asked him to plan a cycling trip across his home country of Uganda he was thrilled. But challenges arose one late night when they had to get creative for dinner.

Episode 85: The Unclimbables

November 25th, 2020


Mo Beck was a professional climber who regularly won gold in competitions. But when she joined a team on a long expedition in the remote Cirque of …

Episode 84: Out On The Road

November 11th, 2020


Mikah Meyer grew up the son of a pastor and secretly struggled with his sexuality. But on a record-setting road trip to all of America's national parks, he realized its success hinged on being open about who he was.

Episode 83: The In-Between IV

October 28th, 2020


The leaves are scattering down the sidewalk and fog touches the tips of the trees. It's that time of year again when the shadows lengthen and we bring you stories that aren't quite human or all the way natural. Welcome …

Episode 82: The Afrovivalist

October 14th, 2020


Sharon Ross wanted to be prepared for anything. But when she joined others getting ready for the end of the world, she found herself the odd one out. (more…)

Season 6 Preview

October 7th, 2020


A glimpse of some of the stories coming your way this season, starting October 14. (more…)

Bonus Episode: The Source

September 23rd, 2020


Climate change is all over the news, from burning forests to melting ice sheets. But it can seem like a big, abstract problem. Writer Manasseh Franklin wanted to make the melting of glaciers more real to people. So on …

Bonus Episode: Row Row Row Your Boat. Or Not.

August 26th, 2020


As summer wanes, we’re reaching into the archives for a story about a classic summer activity: a leisurely river float. At least, that’s what it was supposed to be. But when they lost their guide, a group of tourists …

Bonus Episode: Tipping Point

August 5th, 2020


While we work on new stories for this fall, here’s a summer favorite from 2019. Natalie Warren and Ann Raiho paddled thousands of miles in a canoe

Episode 81: The Ghost Of Africa

July 8th, 2020


South Africans Chris Diedericks and Anna Calitz wanted to go on a romantic getaway, but their adventure broke down before it even began. (more…)

Episode 80: Starstruck

June 24th, 2020


Juan Martinez grew up in South Central L.A. in the early nineties. He was struggling to find his way until he traded detention for a pack of jalapeño seeds. Those led him all the way to the stars. (more…)

Episode 79: The Feeling Of Being Alive

June 10th, 2020


Boyd Varty lives on a game reserve in South Africa near Kruger National Park. After his family began returning the land to its wild state, it awakened something wild in him, too. (more…)

Episode 78: Biking On Empty

May 21st, 2020


After cycling across America, Taylor Thibodeau had a lifetime of adventures ahead of him…until a mysterious illness cut that short. Then he decided to adventure anyway. (more…)

Episode 77: Morley’s Vision

May 6th, 2020


Morley Nelson delighted in watching raptors in aerial combat as they fought over nesting sites. And he made it his life’s mission to protect the part of Idaho’s Snake River with the highest nesting density of birds of …

Episode 76: Close Encounters Of The Wild Kind II

April 22nd, 2020


It’s springtime and Earth Day! Animals are on the move, and sometimes their paths cross with people. Here are five stories to help you get outside while you’re stuck at home. (more…)

Episode 75: Trying To Get Home

April 8th, 2020


Michael Benanav studies nomadic people as a writer and photographer. So when he was invited to accompany the Van Gujjar of northern India on their annual migration with their water buffalo, he jumped at the chance. …

Bonus Episode: Hiking Through History

March 25th, 2020


When Tarik Moore became an Outdoor Afro leader, the first hike he planned wasn’t a traditional one. He took his group down city streets to commemorate Philadelphia’s Osage Avenue bombing. (more…)

Episode 74: Does A Kid Poop In The Woods?

March 11th, 2020


Cindy Ross wanted to keep pursuing her long-distance hiking passion after she had kids. But she didn’t know how to make that happen. Then a chance encounter with a llama breeder opened the path to the Continental Divide …

Episode 73: Not Healed, But Healing

February 26th, 2020


Brandon Kuehn survived the Iraq War. But after he got home, he struggled with nightmares and addiction. Then he found trail running…and the Pacific Crest Trail.



If you like HumaNature, help us tell more stories! …

Episode 72: Everyone Needs A Purpose

February 12th, 2020


Christopher McDougall is famous for starting the barefoot running craze with his book ‘Born to Run.’ And now he has an unusual new running partner⁠—a donkey named Sherman.



If you like HumaNature, help us tell …

Bonus: Moose Surprise

February 5th, 2020


We have a snazzy new t-shirt design for you. But it isn’t without a little controversy.


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Episode 71: The Summit

January 29th, 2020


Tarik Moore always enjoyed nature. So when he found an outdoorsy community, it led to new adventures—like becoming a member of the first all-Black American team to summit Mt. Kilimanjaro. (more…)

Episode 70: Through Oliver’s Eyes

January 15th, 2020


When Wendy Hellowell’s son Oliver was born, he was diagnosed with Down syndrome. She realized the two of them would face enormous challenges. But …

Episode 69: Brain On Nature

December 11th, 2019


We’re taking a little break for the holidays, so we have a special treat for you from down under. The Australian podcast Brain on Nature tells the …

Bonus Episode: Why Elephants Never Forget

November 27th, 2019


As you feast on podcasts during the holidays, here’s a second helping of an old favorite. Aubrey Bertram traveled to East Asia to help animals that …

Episode 68: All The World’s A Deer Stand

November 13th, 2019


Fisher Neal was a struggling actor in New York City. So he turned to his old hunting skills for a side job extremely off-Broadway. (more…)

Episode 67: The In-Between III

October 30th, 2019


A burned-bare house. A pervy spirit. The ghost of Schafer Meadows. A haunted woman. It’s our annual Halloween episode—keep your friends close and your lights on as we find the place that’s not quite human or all the way …

Episode 66: The Secret Of The Adirondack Lean-tos

October 9th, 2019


Jeff Osgood and his friend Anthony just wanted to go on a winter hiking trip in the Adirondack Wilderness in upstate New York. But after a series of mishaps, their adventure took a strange turn with the discovery of a …

Episode 65: Deserted

September 25th, 2019


Josh Patterson loved taking photographs of rare finds in the Mojave Desert. But on one trip, things didn’t go as planned. (more…)

Episode 64: Migrations

September 11th, 2019


Caroline Van Hemert and her husband Pat were nearly finished with the most ambitious trip of their lives, a 4000-mile trek across the Yukon and …

Season 5 Preview

September 4th, 2019


HumaNature returns on September 11 with a new season of stories where humans and our habitat meet. (more…)

Episode 63: Impermafrost

August 21st, 2019


All across the Arctic, frozen soil is thawing out. A lot of stuff is buried there – plants and animals that lived more than 10,000 years ago. This …

Bonus Episode: Time Bomb

August 7th, 2019


For her final episode as the host of HumaNature, Caroline has chosen an old favorite. Brian Corliss just wanted to quench his thirst. But on a …

Episode 62: Lost Bearings

July 24th, 2019


Curt Meyer was looking for adventure, so he took a job aboard a Japanese fishing trawler on the Bering Sea. But when a storm hit, the lack of a shared language kept him in the dark as things turned deadly. (more…)

Episode 61: Tipping Point

July 10th, 2019


Natalie Warren and Ann Raiho paddled thousands of miles in a canoe from Minneapolis to the shores of the Hudson Bay. The journey tested their …

Bonus Episode: Carbon And Dust

June 18th, 2019


An encore presentation of our 2019 PMJA Best Station Podcast award-winner. Felicia Friesema and Steve Julian had a “miracle relationship.” They …

Episode 60: The Source

June 5th, 2019


Manasseh Franklin wanted to make the melting of glaciers more real to people through her writing. So on an Alaskan rafting trip, she followed water …

Episode 59: Vicious And Viral

May 15th, 2019


Travis Kauffman went for a trail run near his home in Colorado. But an unexpected run-in almost turned him into trail mix. Then the internet got …

Episode 58: Close Encounters Of The Wild Kind

May 1st, 2019


It’s spring! Animals are on the move, and sometimes their paths cross with people. Here are four stories. (more…)

Episode 57: Forest Bathing

April 17th, 2019


When she became a mom, Andrea Sarubbi Fereshteh went from full speed ahead to a full stop. But then she found a place that showed her stillness is …

Episode 56: The Shuidong Connection

April 3rd, 2019


In 2016, a team of undercover investigators infiltrated an international ivory-smuggling ring. It all began with a sea cucumber trader in Zanzibar. (more…)

Episode 55 Part 1: The Sinking Of The Blythe Star

March 13th, 2019


For this special two-part story, the Australian podcast Off Track takes us across the globe to the coast of Tasmania and back in time to 1973 for a story of survival and loss. (more…)

Episode 55 Part 2: The Sinking Of The Blythe Star

March 13th, 2019


For this special two-part story, the Australian podcast Off Track takes us across the globe to the coast of Tasmania and back in time to 1973 for a story of survival and loss. (more…)

Episode 54: A Life For Science

February 27th, 2019


Sergio Avila Villegas always loved big cats. But his faith in his scientific research was shaken when he discovered its true cost. (more…)

Episode 53: We’re Thru-(Hike)

February 13th, 2019


Emily Pennington was super in love with her boyfriend. But a backpacking trip put that to the test. (more…)

Episode 52: A Positive Experience!

January 23rd, 2019


Monty Hudson wanted his daughter, Siena, to have a good time on her first backpacking trip. But things didn’t go according to plan. (more…)

Episode 51: The Water At The Roof Of The World

January 9th, 2019


Wang Ping wanted to go to Tibet to bless the world. But to do that, she had to risk her own safety. (more…)

Episode 50: Witness

December 12th, 2018


Gayle Woodsum finally found a safe place in the remote Rocky Mountains. But when an oil rig moved in, she wondered how safe it was after all. (more…)

Bonus Episode: Finding The Way Home In A Purple Canoe

November 28th, 2018


While we’re putting the finishing touches on a great new release, here’s a rescored episode from Season 1.Patrick Dobsonwas stuck in his life, so he decided to take a trip by canoe from Montana to Missouri. Only he had …

Episode 49: Murphy’s Law

November 14th, 2018


Marty Edwards wanted to go on a fun trip with his girlfriend. But Mother Nature had other plans. (more…)

Episode 48: The In-Between II

October 31st, 2018


A haunted shop. An interview with spirits. A protective force field. It’s the time of year when the shadows lengthen and we bring you stories that aren’t quite natural and aren’t all the way human. (more…)

Episode 47: Protector

October 16th, 2018


Miho Aida wanted to tell unheard stories about the outdoors. So she set out on a bicycle to promote her documentary about the people who live in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. But when she encountered a different …

Bonus Episode: Catch And Release

October 3rd, 2018


Here’s a re-scored episode from Season 1. Tonia Hanson had a secret. But when a private river retreat turned out to be very, very public, Tonia found unexpected healing.


Episode 46: Sanctuary

September 20th, 2018


In 2012, 30 wolves and wolf-dogs were living at W.O.L.F. Sanctuary in northern Colorado. But one sunny June morning, a massive wildfire closed in on …

The Event Horizon Part 3: Death

September 6th, 2018


To Alua Arthur, life made no sense. But then she began to make sense of death. (more…)

The Event Horizon Part 2: Creativity

September 6th, 2018


If creative and destructive forces are linked, what does this say about artists, or mothers, or god? (more…)

The Event Horizon Part 1: Black Hole

September 6th, 2018


This is the first part of a three-part series on creation and destruction. Black holes are the most destructive force in the universe. But what if …

Bonus Episode: Through The Keyhole

July 25th, 2018


An encore presentation of our 2018 PMJA Best Station Podcast award-winner. Tyler Dunning went into the wild to distract himself from his grief…but …

Episode 45: Remembering How To Be Human

July 11th, 2018


After almost a decade making art in New York City, Stephanie Housley craved being closer to nature, her source of inspiration. So she moved to …

Episode 44: The Elephant Guardian

June 20th, 2018


When Patrick Kilonzo Mwalua saw wild animals suffering from drought, he decided it was his responsibility to bring them water. (more…)

Bonus Episode: Hoofprints On The Heart

June 6th, 2018


Here’s a re-scored take on one of our all-time favorite episodes. It’s the story of a love that spans continents. Jon Dunham set out on the longest, toughest walk of his life. But along the way, he met someone who …

Episode 43: Dogs On A Plane

May 23rd, 2018


When Paul Steklenski got his pilot’s license, he didn’t just want to fly to lunch. Instead, he flew to the pound. (more…)

Episode 42: Out Of The Frying Pan

May 9th, 2018


Cheryl and Greg left Portland, Oregon, one hot summer for the cool of the mountains. But that put them out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Episode 41: Carbon And Dust

April 25th, 2018


Felicia Friesema and Steve Julian had a “miracle relationship.” They carved out an oasis in the middle of Los Angeles. But then they found themselves …

Episode 40: Her Legacy

April 11th, 2018


This episode is about what we do that leaves a mark: the visible impact we leave behind on the country we live in and the countries we visit. Another podcast we admire, She Explores, takes us to Torres del Paine …

Episode 39: Junk

March 28th, 2018


Marcus Eriksen wanted to draw attention to a problem no one could see. So he sailed into the middle of it.


Episode 38: The Hunt

March 14th, 2018


Jessi Johnson is a modern-day Artemis. But the perfect shot led her on a heartbreaking odyssey.


Episode 37: Crispy Crickets, Not Your Spin Instructor’s Paleo

February 28th, 2018


The paleo diet aims to take nutrition back to the basics—to the way Paleolithic people ate. But prehistoric people didn’t eat boneless chicken …

Extra: Hurricane Of The Heart

February 14th, 2018


It was 2012. Caroline was in love. But then heartbreak washed over her, like the storm surge from Hurricane Sandy.


Episode 36: The Oregon Trailblazer

February 7th, 2018


In 2011, Rinker Buck crossed the Oregon Trail — yes, that Oregon Trail — in a covered wagon pulled by a team of mules. He traveled with his brother …

Extra: “What Is Grain Alcohol, And Where Can I Get Some?”

February 5th, 2018


As we discovered in Episode 35, sometimes grain alcohol is the solution, not the problem. For Sandra Jones, it was a bit of both. (more…)

Episode 35: Time Bomb

January 24th, 2018


Brian Corliss just wanted to quench his thirst. But on a snowmobile outing, he grabbed the wrong bottle. *Disclaimer: The actions taken in this story do not constitute medical advice. In the case of poisoning, call …

Extra: “Watch Out For the Damn Horny Toads!” And Other Thoughts On Not Having Enough

January 19th, 2018


In 2017, the Great American Eclipse drew thousands of spectators to otherwise wild and desolate spots in Wyoming. For writer Liberty Lausterer, this …

Episode 34: The Law Of Gravity

January 10th, 2018


Bruce Smith was on a routine helicopter flight in the remote Wind River Mountains. But what goes up must come down…one way or another.


Episode 33: Ten Steps

December 20th, 2017


On December 22, 2016, Karen Klein got trapped in a snowstorm near the Grand Canyon. But she pushed through it to save her family. (more…)

Episode 32: Trash Bandits And Border Collies

December 6th, 2017


Maggie had it all: a fine house, a loving family, and a big yard. But she threw it all away for adventure. And when things got bad, she had to use …

Bonus Episode: It’s All Downwind From Here

November 22nd, 2017


For your Thanksgiving podcast binge, here’s a second helping of an older episode. Sophie May grew up in Alaska, spending lots of time outside. But …

Episode 31: Why Elephants Never Forget

November 8th, 2017


Aubrey Bertram traveled to East Asia to help animals that had been abused by humans. But a harrowing experience taught her that good intentions might not be enough. (more…)

Episode 30: The In-Between

October 25th, 2017


A possessed basement. A magic mirror. A shop of spirits. Mysterious lights where they don’t belong. Gather around the campfire as we open the portal to a place that isn’t quite human or all the way natural. (more…)

Episode 29: Parks And Scandinavian Recreation

October 11th, 2017


Linda McGurk wanted her children to love the outdoors, just like she did as a little girl in Sweden. But when she moved to the U.S., she found out it wasn’t quite that simple. (more…)

Episode 28: Things That Go Squeak In The Night

September 27th, 2017


When the Massaro family traded life on dry land for a life at sea, they encountered some unexpected company.  (more…)

Episode 27: What Her Cells Knew

September 20th, 2017


Lucy came face-to-face with a family secret that upended her life. So she seized the moment. (more…)

Season 3 Preview

September 13th, 2017


Season 3 of HumaNature takes to the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, the middle of an Indiana creek, and into one woman’s DNA. (more…)

Episode 26: Surviving Mom

August 18th, 2017


In this episode, we’re excited to introduce you to a great storytelling podcast from Montana, Last Best Stories. Two friends were on a hike in Glacier National Park when a pair of fuzzy, cuddly-looking grizzly cubs …

Episode 25: Ordinary Giants

August 4th, 2017


Science journalist Lynda Mapes takes us deep into a New England forest, where one tree is telling the story of climate change. This is the final episode of our summer series, Science Camp, where we’re exploring the …

Episode 24: Bearded Ladies

July 12th, 2017


This is the second episode in our three-part Science Camp series, where we’re exploring the human side of science. Paleobotanist Ellen Currano noticed a lack of other women in her field. So she decided to dress up as a …

Episode 23: Between A Rock And A Holy Place

June 21st, 2017


This is the first episode in a three-part summer series, called Science Camp, where we’re exploring the human side of science. Ryan Haupt had a lot of questions about his faith. When he started looking for answers, he …

Summer Series Preview

June 16th, 2017


We’re starting a new three-part summer series on June 21: Science Camp, where we explore the human side of science.


Episode 22: Through The Keyhole

May 31st, 2017


Tyler Dunning went into the wild to distract himself from his grief…but ended up coming face to face with it instead.


Episode 21: Running For Your Life

May 12th, 2017


After breaking his back, doctors told Gary Havener he would never walk again. So…he decided to run. (more…)

Episode 20: Dogs Are People, Too

April 19th, 2017


In 2007, more than 50 pit bulls were discovered at a dogfighting ring in Virginia. Most people thought they couldn’t be saved. But their stories had …

Episode 19: Freedom

March 29th, 2017


150 years ago, two girls crossed the Missouri River trying to escape a life of slavery. In the summer of 2016, Barry Jurgensen set out on a 500-mile …

Episode 18: Go Tell It In The Desert

March 8th, 2017


Arik was burning to share his faith with the world. But the people he thought needed his message the most weren’t interested in what he had to say. And the camels weren’t, either.

Episode 17: The Ents Of Melbourne

February 14th, 2017


Melbourne, Australia wanted its residents to help keep an eye on its trees. So they gave every tree an email address. But then the trees started to write back. (more…)

Episode 16: Amy And The Animals

January 19th, 2017


It was November 9, 2016. Amy was worried about the new political landscape. But some unusual encounters at work gave her fresh perspective. (more…)

Episode 15: The Young Man Of The Mountain

December 21st, 2016


In this episode, we’ll introduce you to another outdoor show we really like…New Hampshire Public Radio’s Outside/In. 12-year-old Tyler Armstrong was …

Episode 14: It’s All Downwind From Here

November 16th, 2016


Sophie May grew up in Alaska, spending lots of time outside. But when it came time to explore the wilderness as an adult, she found out she had more …

Episode 13: Bigfoot

October 19th, 2016


For our 13th episode, we venture off the beaten path to hear about Bigfoot and the scientist who’s on a mission to find him.  (more…)

Episode 12: Home On The Waves With A Seafaring Cowboy

September 21st, 2016


Herb Pownall wanted to see the world. So he boarded a ship bound for Europe…along with 800 cows.


Episode 11: Hoofprints On The Heart

August 17th, 2016


This is the story of a love that spans continents. Jon Dunham set out on the longest, toughest walk of his life. But along the way, he met someone who helped carry the weight.  (more…)

Season 1 Recap

June 29th, 2016


Caroline and Micah reminisce about how HumaNature’s first season came about. And they play a part of the never-before-heard pilot episode. Fire up …

Episode 10: The Moon And The Possum

May 18th, 2016


Where do we come from? And where do we go when we die? Paul Taylor shares one of the oldest answers to those questions.  (more…)

Episode 9: May The Road Rise Up To Meet You, And May The Wind Stop Blowing In Your Face

April 20th, 2016


Christina Lee should have been having the time of her life. Instead, she was stressed and lonely. Until she decided to run away from the rat race…all …

Episode 8: Row Row Row Your Boat. Or Not.

March 16th, 2016


It was supposed to be a leisurely float down the Snake River. But when they lost their guide, a group of tourists got more than they bargained for. (more…)

Episode 7: Man vs. Machine

February 17th, 2016


Micah Schweizer was skiing in the back-country when he uttered a curse against snowmobilers. But you know what they say—be careful what you wish for.

Episode 6: In The Beginning, God Created The Heavens And The Earth And The Allosaurus

January 19th, 2016


Erin Jonesthought the answers were written in stone. But a summer internship at a remote dinosaur quarry eroded her certainty.


Episode 5: Finding The Way Home In A Purple Canoe

November 18th, 2015


Patrick Dobsonwas stuck in his life, so he decided to take a trip by canoe from Montana to Missouri. Only he had never canoed before.


Episode 4: Catch And Release

October 21st, 2015


Tonia Hanson had a secret. But when a private river retreat turned out to be very, very public, Tonia found unexpected healing.


Episode 3: When A Search And Rescue Becomes A Search For Something Else

September 16th, 2015


Greg Ley was deep in the Rocky Mountains, training as an outdoor guide, when his group encountered tragedy. What happened next forever changed his beliefs about the importance of humans to the wilderness. Winner of a …

Episode 2: A Ballroom Dancer, A Shark, And A PR Problem

August 18th, 2015


Debbie Salamone was an environmental journalist who was passionate about the ocean—and ballroom dancing. One day at the beach, all that changed. (more…)

Episode 1: Up A River, Without… A Pigeon?

August 18th, 2015


Charlie Thomas worked as a whitewater rafting guide in the 80s. His boss became obsessed with selling photos of clients taken while they ran the rapids. The only problem was getting the film back across the river and …

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