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Deep in the heart of public school education wars rage on, and few warriors come to fight for the people. Yet, there is one small band of freedom fighters bring sanity to the village. Anyone who threatens the education of our 8 million black children is likely to catch these eight black hands. [Twit… read more

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Ep. 124: The Covid Impact on Black Education

July 19th, 2021

59:31

In this episode, we discussed the residual impact of COVID-19 on Black education, the Delta variant, and how Covid-19 will continue to play a vital …

Ep. 123: No "Bothesiderism" Ft. Dr. Robert Simmons

July 13th, 2021

1:08:10

It’s impossible to be on both sides of wanting quality educational choices for marginalized students and families. We “ain’t” meeting you in the middle. It’s time to build a new table. @Robert_Simmons3 joins us.

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Ep. 122: Parents Navigating School Return in the Fall Ft. Jay Artis-Wright

July 5th, 2021

1:10:17

As schools come back to in-person instruction in the fall, join us as we discuss navigation strategy and tactics for parents with Parent Revolution …

Ep. 121: What CRT Is and Isn't: Parts I & II

June 28th, 2021

2:01:17

Part I: Critical Race Theorists Dr. Adrienne Dixon and Dr. Marvin Lynn dispel the Boogyman narrative being created by folks that are anti-CRT.

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Ep. 120: Black Fatherhood

June 22nd, 2021

1:16:22

Happy Father’s Day... please make sure to come and kick it with us on this special Father’s Day edition of 8BH. In this episode, we celebrate Black Fathers worldwide.

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Ep. 119: Don't Just Listen to Black Women, Support Them! Ft. Gabrielle Wyatt

June 15th, 2021

1:05:03

In this episode, we chat with Gabrielle Wyatt. Some folks listen to respond, but rarely listen to comprehend. Join us as Ms. Wyatt discusses her plan …

Ep. 118: The Realignment

June 7th, 2021

1:21:58

School choice has a big tent, and a bigoted tent, this Sunday we draw a line in the sand as to where we stand. Given what has transpired the last 5 …

Ep. 117: Practical Ways to Enrich Your Students Over The Summer

May 31st, 2021

1:10:11

In this episode, we discuss practical ways to enrich your children during the summer. With the trauma students have endured during COVID-19, we have some ways parents can accelerate the learning of their students.

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Ep. 116: The Permanent Interest of Black Folks

May 24th, 2021

1:17:45

As other folks put their interests to the forefront, what say the Black congregation and its allies on where Black folks fit into the educational …

Ep. 115: Are we integrating into a burning house? Ft. @JamilaDugan

May 17th, 2021

1:13:23

This week the fellas chop is up w/ Dr. Jamila Dugan and tackle a burning question centered on integration in schools. You can purchase her new book,

Ep. 114: Educating Black Boys w/Kamar O'Guinn

May 10th, 2021

1:08:01

In this episode, we are joined by Kamar O'Guinn to have a conversation about educating Black boys, the Year of Return, and how the academy treats some of our brightest minds.

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Ep. 113: Unpacking America's Racism ft: Chairman Fred Hampton, Jr & Akua Njeri

May 3rd, 2021

1:21:39

It started with Freedom Friday, it all comes to a head Sunday w/ Akua Njeri/Fred Hampton Jr. Listen as they go in-depth about the process of making Judas and the Black Messiah. We got a lot of jewels this episode. It is …

Ep. 112: Exploring the Gates ft. Dr. Annette Anderson

April 27th, 2021

1:10:56

What are the important benchmarks that folks should be following when it comes to student achievement? This week we will explore achievement gates …

Ep. 111: School Leadership in the Midst of Chaos Ft: Principal Kafele

April 19th, 2021

1:12:44

In episode 111, we welcome Principal Kafele to dive into school leadership and its crucial role in the school community and educational ecosystem.

Ep. 110: The Duality of Black Men [In Education] ft. Larry Irvin, Jr.

April 12th, 2021

1:24:51

In this episode, we welcome Larry Irvin, Jr. to break down his incredible journey in education to co-found Brothers Empowered 2 Teach which attracts Black men in NOLA to become educators. We ask, "Is there even space …

Ep. 109: Do For Self

April 5th, 2021

1:55:30

In this episode, the fellas offer a special Easter episode that's practically two shows in one! Join us as we discuss what "doing for self" means in terms of education. We hope you enjoy this longer episode and if so, …

Ep. 108: It's Time to Talk About Teachers' Unions (Again)

March 29th, 2021

1:08:55

If a year of pandemic homeschooling has taught us anything, it is how much power teachers' unions hold over public education and its administration. …

Ep. 107: Real Men Teach

March 22nd, 2021

1:16:15

In this episode, the fellas are joined by Curtis Valentine to discuss his initiative, Real Men Teach and the importance of Black male educators. There was a lot of valuable insight in this episode. Make sure you comment …

Ep. 106: High-Quality Safe Spaces for All Black Children

March 15th, 2021

1:12:23

In this episode we talk safe spaces for Black kids. What exactly does that look like? As a parent how do you analyze what a safe space is for your child?Tune in to be part of the discussion and share this podcast if you …

Ep. 105: We All Can Play A Role...

March 8th, 2021

1:14:01

In this episode, the fellas offer practical advice from their areas of expertise. Chris is an expert around parent organizing and communication. Ray …

Ep. 104: When the System Fails You! Ft. Rashad Turner

March 1st, 2021

1:11:54

In this episode, we explored what must be done when the system continues to fail us. We were joined by birthday boy, Rashad Turner (@rashadsrepublic). He talks about practical ways families can fight back and we also …

Ep. 103: School Choice for Me But Not For Thee Ft. Andrew Campanella

February 22nd, 2021

1:08:56

The fellas kicked it with Andrew R. Campanella (@andrewrcamp) as we discussed school choice for me and not for thee. This was an empowering show that …

Ep. 102: Teaching Our Children Is An Honor Ft. Salome Thomas-EL

February 15th, 2021

1:22:51

Teaching students in so called "High Needs Areas" should not only be exhilarating, but it should also be an honor for outsiders that those …

Ep. 101: Dr. Fuller Returns… (Ft: Dr. Howard Fuller)

February 8th, 2021

1:22:14

In this episode, we bring back the legendary Dr. Howard Fuller (@HowardLFuller). We discuss some pressing current events impacting Black folks and …

Ep. 100: Building a Black Future feat. Killer Mike

February 1st, 2021

1:52:54

In this episode, we celebrate their 100th episode in grand fashion as we chop it up w/Killer Mike (@killermike) about building Black community which includes Black education and more. You do not want to miss this one! 

Ep. 99: Expanding the Brand

January 25th, 2021

1:21:45

One of the things we've reflected on coming up on our 100th show, is how can we highlight more voices by giving them a shared platform to enact change. We are currently in the development stages of creating a network of …

Ep. 98: Real Revolutionary Education ft. DeRay McKesson

January 18th, 2021

1:19:55

The fellas kick it with DeRay McKesson (@deray) to discuss revolutionary education in the classroom. Looking forward to fruitful discussion.

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Ep. 97: Demand Education Receipts, Especially Now! Ft: Corey DeAngelis & Neal McCluskey

January 11th, 2021

1:12:57

In this episode, We have @DeAngelisCorey and @NealMcCluskey joining us to help us show parents & the community how to demand education quality even during these strange times in addition to discussing their new …

Ep. 96: Trumpers Attack the Capitol!: America Needs The Hands

January 8th, 2021

1:18:19

In this special episode, the fellas react in real time to Trumpers storming the Capitol, Listen as we process in real time what has just occurred on …

Ep. 95: Black-Belt Education Activism: Making Black Children a Real Priority in 2021

January 4th, 2021

1:29:47

We should be tired of our 8 million Black children not being a REAL priority in America. What do we mean by "real"? We mean clear, informed, and …

Ep. 94: New Year's Resolutions [For Education]

December 28th, 2020

1:30:45

In this episode we make our asks (Resolutions) for the 8+million Black kids and the 10+ million Brown kids that need a better education solutions. …

Ep. 93: Do School Districts Owe Black Folks Reparations? Ft. Darrel Burnette II (@daarel)

December 21st, 2020

1:12:49

In this episode, the fellas welcome special guest Daarel Burnette II from Education Week. Join us as we discuss the notion of reparations through …

Ep. 92: In Service of the 8 Million Ft. The 8BH Patrons

December 14th, 2020

1:29:29

In this episode, we honor and amplify some of our biggest supporters that are doing amazing work serving students and their families around the country. There are ways we all can improve education for underserved kids …

Ep. 91: House Rules for Black Ed Activist

December 7th, 2020

1:13:25

This has been a crazy week for Twitter beef between Black education advocates. Saying the wrong thing gets you dragged (by Black folks and their …

Ep. 90: #YouAreWelcome Ft. Sarah Carpenter and the Powerful Parent Movement

November 30th, 2020

1:27:21

In this very special episode we are joined by friend of the show and modern day Fannie Lou Hamer, Sarah Carpenter (@LadyTenn) and she brought back …

Ep. 89: The Black Barbershop Episode ft. Dr. Steve Perry

November 23rd, 2020

1:39:44

You are in for a treat this week. We are joined by our colleague and friend of the show, Dr. Steve Perry (@DrStevePerry). The gloves come off and the …

Ep. 88: The Great Divide ft. Briahna Joy Gray

November 16th, 2020

1:21:53

The fellas chop it up w/ Briahna Joy Gray [@briebriejoy] about the great divide in our country, and how we can place ourselves on a path to heal. …

Ep. 87: Post Election Chop Up Feat. Nina Turner

November 9th, 2020

1:17:17

In this episode the fellas chop it up with Nina Turner.  Our Country needs this talk, so make sure to clear your calendars because this is one you do …

Ep. 86: The Importance of School Board Election Part II

November 2nd, 2020

1:13:35

In this episode, the fellas bring in candidates in important local school board races to determine their why? We are blessed with 3 guests. We two …

Ep. 85: The Importance of School Board Elections Ft. Adonica Duggan

October 26th, 2020

1:07:52

In the episode, the fellas chop it up with Adonica about the importance of school board elections. Using both Oakland and Baton Rouge as case …

Ep. 84: Unusual Politics Ft. Zakiya Sankara-Jabar

October 19th, 2020

1:26:26

In this episode, we welcome the amazing Zakiya Sankara-Jabar. Together, we discuss Ice Cube's agenda for Black Folks, Cube's conversations with 45's …

Episode 83: What's Popping In Your Neck of the Woods?

October 12th, 2020

1:09:30

In this episode the fellas, the fellas welcome the one and only Shavar Jeffries, the president of Democrats for Education Reform, or better known as DFER. This talk tackles everything from the VP debate, to leaders that …

Ep. 82: Ish Just Got Real!

October 5th, 2020

1:10:09

In this episode, the fellas discuss the debate that never happened; The president and the first lady being diagnosed with covid-19; and proud boys.

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Ep. 81: An Exemplar in Black Homeschooling ft. Ian Taylor Schlitz

September 28th, 2020

1:04:17

Ian is a 14 year old phenom, who recently graduated with his Associates degree.  He owns his own business, and is on his way to doing major things. …

Ep. 80: Critical Race Theory in the Era of 45

September 21st, 2020

1:21:41

In this episode, the fellas welcome Dr. Shannon Waite and Dr. Marvin Lynn to discuss CRT in the era of Donald Trump. There's a great debate to be had here. Take a listen and share your thoughts. 

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Ep. 79: Not So Nice Black Parents

September 14th, 2020

1:10:02

In this episode, the fellas react to the Serial (NY Times) podcast Nice White Parents. The fellas explore a number of themes from the show ranging …

Ep. 78: The Hands Take a Stand

September 7th, 2020

1:07:27

In this episode, The Hands analyze a powerful article written by ally and co-conspirator Dirk Tillotson, as well as call out the misappropriation of …

Ep. 77: The Black Agenda Episode

August 31st, 2020

1:29:43

In Episode 77, the fellas discuss the current state of Black America, more specifically what’s our ask? Stay tuned as the fellas broach discomfort in …

Ep. 76: The 2nd Annual BLACK 2 School Episode

August 24th, 2020

1:08:24

In their 2nd Annual Black 2 School episode, the fellas help families and educators navigate schooling during these unprecedented times. This episode …

Ep. 75: 2020 Freedom Schools

August 17th, 2020

1:24:00

In this episode the fellas talk candidly about school designs needed for Black kids to thrive post COVID-19. This episode will be a forward thinking …

Ep. 74: The "Good Trouble" Episode

August 10th, 2020

1:08:34

In this episode, the fellas honor the lives of C.T. Vivian and John Lewis. Please leave us your thoughts and share this episode. 

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Ep. 73: Smart Black Kids Vs. Acting White

August 5th, 2020

1:08:56

In this episode, the fellas are joined by two youth from Energy Convertors to discuss the topic of "Acting White". The students break down their experiences and the 8BH crew give you their signature authentic talk. You …

Ep. 72: Healthcare in the Black Community

July 27th, 2020

1:14:04

Following up on our last show that focused on self-care, the hands chop it up with Dr. Jedan Phillips about healthcare in the Black Community. 

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EP. 71: Self-Care During COVID-19 featuring Hilary Beard

July 20th, 2020

1:13:33

In this episode, the fellas chop it up with award winning writer and editor Hilary Beard. We discussed self-care and wellness techniques as preventive measures. This is the episode you learn from. 

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Ep. 70: A Covid-19 School Re-entry Plan

July 13th, 2020

1:06:08

In this episode, the fellas discuss the country's plan to reopen schools.

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Ep. 69: The Current State of Education w/NTOY Rodney Robinson

July 6th, 2020

1:10:33

The hands get to kick it with the 2019 National Teacher of the Year Rodney Robinson. We went through a bunch of topics and Mr. Robinson did not disappoint. You definitely do not want to miss this. 

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Ep. 68: The Confederate Flag, Defunding "Trash" Schools, & Other Topics from the Week

June 29th, 2020

1:26:51

This week we discuss America's obsession with the Confederate flag, the flag's historical context and implications. Also, we talk about what it could …

Ep. 67: Strange Fruit/Ed Reform & Police Reform

June 22nd, 2020

1:57:40

In this episode, the fellas talk about strange fruit, and having the same energy for ed reform as we currently have for police reform. This is one of …

Ep. 66: The Everybody Luvs Raymond Episode

June 17th, 2020

1:03:26

In this episode, we celebrate the professional accomplishments of Ray Ankrum. Listen and learn about his time in growing up in Louisiana to his journey to becoming a superintendent. It's all in there. 

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Ep. 65: The Vainglorious Episode

June 8th, 2020

1:19:12

In this episode, the fellas show their love and appreciate for Chris Stewart. Our co-host has an amazing story and we finally get to dive into it. We hope you enjoy it.


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Ep. 64: The Fire This Time

June 1st, 2020

2:09:49

This episode was different. The fellas discuss the ongoing protests and offer their reactions and thoughts. This was our longest episode yet as the fellas let their thoughts breathe. 


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Ep. 63: The School-to-Activism Pipeline

May 25th, 2020

1:11:28

In this episode, we honor the work of our co-host, Sharif El-Mekki. We learn about his organization, his life's philosophy, and how his time growing up in Iran. Yes, our co-host is an onion with layers. You'll …

Ep. 62: Typos and All... feat. Dr. Brian Stanley

May 18th, 2020

1:15:29

In this episode, we honor one of our own, Dr. Charles Cole, III. We do a deep dive into his research and his mindset while doing it. We are joined by …

Ep. 61: R.I.P. Ahmaud Arbery

May 11th, 2020

1:11:06

This was a tough conversation but necessary. No long intro here. Enjoy and heal with us. 


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Ep. 60: Student Homelessness during COVID-19

May 4th, 2020

1:08:57

Today the fellas tackle student homelessness. This topic hit pretty close to home for the hosts. The fellas break down the 4 different types of homelessness while discussing what we can do to better support students.

Ep. 59: Live with Google's Education Evangelist, Jaime Casap

April 27th, 2020

1:07:23

The Hands chopped it up with the Google Evangelist, Jaime Casap. We discussed the amazing work that he's currently doing, as well as get Jaime's thoughts on equity and access for poor and disenfranchised students during …

Ep. 58: Live with THE Kaya Henderson

April 20th, 2020

1:12:47

This was quite the episode! Kaya broke down key reflections form her time as Chancellor in DC. She came with so much wisdom and love for our community that it felt more like a masterclass on leadership. Take a listen …

Ep. 57: Schools out, instructional leadership, and student retention

April 13th, 2020

1:12:57

The hands talk about the rift between New York's governor and NYC's mayor; the missing conversation about principal quality; and whether or not …

Ep. 56: These Are Trying Times

April 6th, 2020

1:10:38

In this episode the fellas go deep on a few topics including: 

- Shaun King 

- Teachers working during spring break 

- COVID-19 Updates

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Ep 55: The Well-Spoken Episode & Other Topics

March 31st, 2020

59:02

In this episode, the fellas went deep and explored everything from the new-education-normal via COVID-19 to how people feel about being told they're …

Ep. 54: The Quarantine Episode

March 23rd, 2020

1:11:56

In this episode, the fellas explore the new normal. They discuss how they are adjusting in these uncertain times. Take a listen and share it with a friend.

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Ep. 53: Coronavirus vs Everybody

March 16th, 2020

1:01:55

At an unprecedented time where the coronavirus is changing life for everyone, we decided to take it head on. We discuss everything from how families are coping to the inactivity of the president. This is a time where we …

Ep. 52: 8BH Live from Little Rock!

March 9th, 2020

1:29:12

This was a special live episode. We got to spend time in Little Rock and it was amazing. Huge shout out to the Reform Alliance for bringing us out. …

Ep. 51: Arresting 6 year olds, Presidential Elections, and the State of Education Journalism

March 2nd, 2020

1:00:24

In this episode, we discussed the viral video where a 6 year old girl is arrested and the fellas have some pretty strong takes. Then we shift our …

Ep. 50: What Will It Actually Take to Get More Black Educators Into Your Schools and Districts?

February 24th, 2020

1:14:14

Many schools and districts are announcing that they want more diversity in the teacher workforce. Far less are moving mountains to ensure the …

Ep. 49: Nothing is Off Limits w/Dr. Boyce Watkins

February 17th, 2020

1:08:31

You all are in for a treat. As the title suggests, we covered a ton of topics. Dr. Watkins came on the show and did not disappoint. Join us as we …

Ep. 48: A Chat w/Baltimore City Public Schools CEO, Dr. Sonja Santelises

February 10th, 2020

1:21:24

In this episode, the fellas chat with the CEO of Baltimore City Public Schools, Dr. Sonja Santelises. They discuss a wide range of topics including …

Ep. 47: Black History Month, Black Politicians, and Comparing the Social Media Era with Yesteryear

February 3rd, 2020

1:04:24

Happy Black History Month!! In this episode, Charles and Sharif dive into a lot! The fellas start by highlighting a few Black leaders that meant a lot to each of them personally. Then the fellas veer into a video by

Ep. 46: RIP Kobe & Gigi, Plus the Brightbeam Report

January 27th, 2020

1:10:02

Man, this was a tough one. Recorded just hours after the tragic news of Kobe Bryant's death, the fellas got a chance to reflect. Life is short, love hard. Afterwards, we dive into the recent report put out by …

Ep. 45: Live From NOLA & Discussing Parent Power

January 20th, 2020

1:16:51

In this episode, the fellas got to travel to New Orleans to the amazing inaugural National Parents Union Parent Power 2020 Summit. The fellas discussed themes of parent agency and why parents must be at the forefront of …

Ep. 43: The Impotence of Choice: How Far Would You Go to Get Quality Education?

January 8th, 2020

46:21

Welcome to the new decade! We missed you all. 

In this episode, the fellas discussed a school so in demand parents camped out to get their child a …

Ep. 42: Go Where You Are Celebrated, Not Tolerated

December 23rd, 2019

1:08:05

This episode is the return of our brother, Chris Stewart and he was in rare form!! In this episode, we covered a lot. First, we discussed the a group …

Ep. 41: They Call Our Kids 'Criminals' | The Saga of Urban Dove

December 15th, 2019

33:51

In this episode, the fellas discuss the saga surround Urban Dove School which has plans to move into a Jewish Community. Urban Dove is a charter …

Ep. 40: Everyone wins with more Black educators ft. Dr. Constance Lindsay

December 8th, 2019

56:41

Our communities have always known the power of Black children having Black teachers in their lives. The numbers of Black teachers dropped …

Ep. 39: Sarah, In Her Own Words

November 27th, 2019

51:12

Sarah Carpenter and the Powerful Parent Network lifted their voices at a rally where Elizabeth Warren was speaking and it is getting national news. …

Ep. 38: Agentic Black Mamas Address Warren & Her Education Plan

November 25th, 2019

52:38

In this episode, the fellas dive into the protest by the Powerful Parent Network. Sarah Carpenter, friend of the show and guest of Episode 19, had a …

Ep. 37: Discussing Segregation, Black Education, and Truth LIVE in Minneapolis

November 17th, 2019

1:05:59

In this episode, the fellas find themselves live in Minneapolis. The conversation touches on legislation attacking culturally affirming schools …

Ep. 36 - Live from Texas!!

November 10th, 2019

59:38

While Texas is known for doing everything bigger and better, we wanted to know if the same mantra is realized for their Black students’ achievement levels. Listen to this episode to determine #HowAreTheChildren

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Ep. 35: White Folks, Please Stop Lecturing Black Folks About OUR Children

October 28th, 2019

56:20

In this episode, the fellas dive deep into the paternalistic ways in which white folks and other entities of power try to explain Black children to …

Ep. 34: The Chicago Public Schools Strike & Chance the Rapper

October 21st, 2019

59:52

In this episode, the fellows have a deep discussion on the latest CPS strike before debating a recent comment by Chance the Rapper. This was a necessary episode. Enjoy. 


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Ep. 33: Revisiting The Revolt Summit

October 7th, 2019

52:07

In this episode, Chris and Charles revisit the Revolt Summit in all its glory. Listen in to see where the fellas fell on the Killer Mike & …

Ep. 32 Loving Education Debates Amongst Black Folks w/Special Guest Dr. Bettina Love

September 30th, 2019

1:14:44

In this episode, we got to chat with Dr. Bettina Love about her new book, We Want to do More than Survive, Black education, what she thinks we must …

Ep. 31: 6-Year-Old Girl Arrested, Desks in Bathroom, & Broke Booker

September 23rd, 2019

58:57

In this episode, the fellas discuss a myriad of controversial topics in the world of education. First they discuss the arrest of a 6-year-old girl …

Ep. 30: Live in DC w/Jalen Rose

September 15th, 2019

44:04

Well, the fellas were on the rode once again and this time was blessed to interview Jalen Rose about all the amazing work he is doing at Jalen Rose Leadership Academy in his hometown of Detroit. Spoiler Alert, the big …

Ep. 29: The Edupurist Takeover

September 9th, 2019

54:30

While The Hands are preparing to go back on the road, Ray and his Edupurist Podcast took over our airwaves. Go support Ray and the Edupurist podcast. You can find more Edupurists pod episodes here:

Ep 28: Emancipatory Education

September 2nd, 2019

1:01:37

This episode is all about emancipatory education. The fellas offer their thoughts and personal experiences to this term that deserves more attention. What is emancipatory education to you and where are you seeing it …

Ep. 27: Is Jay-Z Helping or Hurting the Movement? *Plus How This Informs Education in Black America

August 26th, 2019

1:12:44

This is a special episode. It's so special, in fact, that we gave you bonus material at the end of the episode. In this episode, we discuss the latest regarding Jay-Z and the NFL. Then we discuss how this affects the 8 …

Ep. 26: Recapping Our Live Pittsburgh, PA Show

August 19th, 2019

52:37

Oh this one is a doozy! In it, we start out recapping the AMAZING State of Learning event in Pittsburgh, PA. In that live show (which we hope to put out soon) there was a bit of controversy and we discuss it here. …

Ep. 25: NAACP, What About the Black Kids in Cali featuring Christina Laster

August 12th, 2019

1:00:59

In this episode, we welcome Freedom Fighter Christina Laster. She is the current Education Chair of the San Diego branch of the NAACP and she stands for Black children even when the state chapter doesn't. Here, she …

Ep. 24: Booker's Betrayal

August 5th, 2019

1:05:35

We send our thoughts to Gilroy, El Paso, and Dayton. 

Then we discuss Booker's flip flop on parent choice that led to a spirited debate about the Democratic Primary landscape. There was real (and productive) conflict. …

Ep. 23: All The Smoke Featuring Dr. Charles Cole & Dr. Keith Benson

July 30th, 2019

1:03:02

This episode originally appeared on Ray's podcast, the Edupurist podcast.  In honor of Charles' birthday, we have decided to re-broadcast this episode.   The birth of this episode came from a twitter disagreement, in …

Ep. 22 - Stand & Fight ft. Dr. Howard Fuller

July 22nd, 2019

1:09:48

In this episode, we got to spend time with the man himself, Dr. Fuller. He gave us a ton of free game, history, and all the motivation one may need …

Ep. 21: Mayhem at Disneyland

July 15th, 2019

44:58

In this episode, we discuss Chris' controversial article about the melee at Disneyland and how we should respond as a community. We argued, we …

Ep. 20: EdReform is Dead, Now What? [Live from Vegas]

July 12th, 2019

1:13:49

This was a special episode. The fellas were live and the crowd was all the way into it. Shout out to that AMAZING crowd. The room was a little loud and there's a slight buzz BUT the content is fire. As always, please …

Ep. 19 The Memphis Lift on Why Parents Should be Leading the Movement

July 4th, 2019

46:28

Ray and Charles got a chance to sit down with the most amazing group of parents in the game. We had an amazing conversation. Sarah Carpenter and her …

18: "Radical Binacity" of Whiteness and Ed Reform

June 24th, 2019

37:38

In this episode, Charles and Ray dive deeper into the recent Atlantic article by billionaire Nick Hanauer as he has his "epiphany' of sorts regarding the relationship between economic inequality and poor education. 

17: When They See Us Discussion (Part 2)

June 12th, 2019

41:15

PART 2
In this episode, we dive deep into the Limited Series Netflix show, When They See Us, directed by Ava DuVernay. The convo grew and as a result, …

16: When They See Us Discussion (Part 1)

June 12th, 2019

36:12

In this episode, we dive deep into the Limited Series Netflix show, When They See Us, directed by Ava DuVernay. The convo grew and as a result, we …

15: Ep. 15 The Philly Show ft: David P. Hardy

June 2nd, 2019

43:57

In this episode, Ray and Sharif venture to Philly to talk to the "OG" David P. Hardy (@davidphardy) about all things Philly education. Great episode. Take a listen and continue to conversation on Twitter @8BlackHands1.

14: Ep. 14 Black Education Under Attack in Cali

May 28th, 2019

34:53

In this episode, the fellas discuss the legislation on the table aimed to take charter schools out and the Black folks most impacted.

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13: Ep. 13 Bernie's Barking Again...

May 19th, 2019

47:22

The team tackles Bernie's advocacy to take away a wing of Black and Brown education. We have a LOT to say on that topic. 
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12: Ep. 12 Live from Oakland!!

May 12th, 2019

51:31

We had the privilege of recording our first live show in Oakland at the Charter Collaborative Conference. We tackled a wide range of topics with the …

11: Ep 11: The Tale of the Assistant Principal and his trusty Sharpie

April 29th, 2019

40:35

AP decides that his only recourse of action is to draw on a student in order to fix his haircut and get him back to class. Not once did he think to call this kid’s parents. Things like this happen to our kids all of …

10: Ep 10: Should principals be able to impose dress codes on parents?

April 29th, 2019

35:40

Texas principal implements a dress code for parents. People are up in arms about the new dress code policy, as many feel it represents an archaic way …

9: Ep. 9: Black Parents, You Are On Your Own

April 8th, 2019

54:16

Let's start this thing off right, WELCOME BACK TO THE VAINGLORIOUS CHRIS STEWART. Happy to have you back, brother. 
The fellas discuss why we say Black parents are on their own and ways they can be ready. No punches …

8: Ep. 8: TFA, Scapegoat Supreme

April 1st, 2019

41:48

The 8 Black Hands tackle the issue of California trying to banish TFA (

7: EP 7: Oh Y'all Was CHEATIN' Cheating - Operation Varsity Blues Scandal

March 18th, 2019

51:23

In the midst of the greatest college admin scandal, the team breaks down their reactions and thoughts on where Black folks should go from here.

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6: EP 6: Oakland Strikes Again - This time it's personal

February 25th, 2019

1:19:29

As the heat from teachers' strikes in Oakland rises, things are turning violent. Charles Cole helps us understand the recent vandalism and threats to …

5: EP 5: Blackface, black history, and black education

February 18th, 2019

28:36

What does black history month mean to us? It means we need to keep eyes on the prize and not be distracted by media reports of politicians in …

4: EP 4: The Oakland teachers are set to walk on struggling students

February 11th, 2019

1:15:14

Here we go again. This time it's Oakland that is bracing for a teachers strike that will disrupt the education of children who are already so far behind. To help us understand what is at issue we invited **Dr. Brian …

2: EP: 2 Teachers strike in Los Angeles, but not for us.

January 29th, 2019

32:47

This past week we saw teachers in Los Angeles end their first strike in in 30 years. Did the parents and children in that city gain enough in the process?

We discuss Citizen Stewart's [piece on the issue](

1: EP 1: Dr. King, integration, billionaires, and the black church

January 22nd, 2019

1:18:56

In this first episode the crew (Ankrum, Cole, El-Mekki, and Stewart) introduce the show and talk about the importance of Dr. Martin Luther King, …

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