Cliff Sims describes the White House power structure not as a flow chart, but a solar system — with President Trump as the sun, and everyone else orbiting him at varying distances. He says he was pretty close: more of a Mercury than a Jupiter.
We spoke with Sims about his time in the White House and his new book reflecting on "500 extraordinary days."
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