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Gray Area

7 EpisodesProduced by Julie Reynolds MartinezWebsite

Gray Area tells the stories of people who are dealing with this whole thing we call justice, people who are trying to get beyond labels of right and wrong or good and evil to get to something bigger – redemption. Gray Area deals with some pretty heavy stuff, but it also lightens up when you least ex… read more


Episode 03: Reynaldo in Yaqui Land

Gray Area Episode 03: Reynaldo in Yaqui Land

How can two brothers turn out so utterly different? Born 15 years apart to different fathers, Roy and Reynaldo found very different paths as they grew up. By the time he reached adulthood, Reynaldo decided he’d had enough of his brother’s criminal antics. After Roy died in prison, it took Reynaldo years before he was ready to try to make sense of the life his brother led — in fact, it took a dream.

What we learned on this journey was more than just the shocking truth about Roy —  we would uncover a connection to legendary criminals and folk heroes.  We’d also dig deeply into the indigenous struggles of North America.

Roy Miranda

Reynaldo’s brother, RoyLike many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, Reynaldo assumed his family’s ties to their indigenous roots were severed centuries ago. But as we discovered, that rupture was not so far in the past. The trauma and scars remain alive in the present — from massacres and enslavement to lynchings, extermination and displacement.

For Reynaldo what started as a search for insight about his brother turned into a journey that spanned cultures, nations and centuries — a journey of discovery about the ongoing struggle for a sense of place and self in the American West.

This is the story of Reynaldo in Yaqui Land. Cemetery in Guadalupe, Arizona | Reynaldo Barrioz


Special thanks to Claudia Meléndez, Valli Barrioz, and Victor Almazán for editing help.

Joaquin Murrieta


The recording of the Corrido de Joaquin Murrieta is from the public domain roots music website,

Thanks to KRWG-TV, Las Cruces, New Mexico for excerpts from John Valadez’s interview on the program Fronteras. Here’s the entire interview about his film, “The Head of Joaquin Murrieta.”

Ernesto Miranda

Miranda v. Arizona
Complete NBC newscast on the death of Ernesto Mirando.

Yaqui resistance leader Cajemé

Instituto Tecnológico Superior de Cajeme | Danza del Venado y Paskola Tribu Yaqui
Los Dandys |  Gema

Blue Dot Sessions  | Arizona Moon
Blue Dot Sessions, | El Tajo
Blue Dot Sessions | On Early Light
Blue Dot Sessions | Waltz for Zacaria
Blue Dot Sessions | Villano

Mr. Miranda |  Miranda’s Rights


Roy's drawing of the Virgin of Guadalupe

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Episode 03: Reynaldo in Yaqui Land was first posted on February 20, 2018 at 10:58 pm.
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